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What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 03:48 Go to next message
What does "2 or 4 or 6 Bolt Mains" mean?
I've been curious for AGES and can't find out!
I'm sure its a silly question, but nonetheless.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The number is simply the number of bolts holding each of the "main" bearing caps on to the block. Cross bolt mains are those where a bolt comes in horizontally from outsed the block to hold the cap in as well as the standard vertical bolts into the block.

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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh, is that all ? The number of bolts that hold the cap that holds the bearing that holds the crankshaft?

So why is it such a big deal that the 1uz has 6 of them, when american v8's have 2 ?
Isn't that just pointless overkill, or do they *really* fail occasionally and let go of the cap?
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anything alloy and powerful would self destruct with less than 6 bolt mains.

Cast Iron tends to be a tad stronger so 2 bolts is enough.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 12:15

Anything alloy and powerful would self destruct with less than 6 bolt mains.

Cast Iron tends to be a tad stronger so 2 bolts is enough.

That and Toyota went a bit nutso on the 1UZ Laughing
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
And the bolts that come in from the sump give it a bit more strenght in the block as they are all tied together.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok thanks for the explanations.
On a sidenote, using a 1uz in a boat would be a bad thing, right, wouldn't the alloy rust away in no time, since to cool boat engines you pump river water through the water cooled headers and then straight through the block.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
alloy won't rust. cast iron will though
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Really? I always heard that you couldn't put alloy heads on boat v8's because they'd rust away in no time. ??
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Mon, 30 May 2005 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Plenty of people are now using the 1UZ in Marine applications.

Toyota actually developed a Marine 1UZ.

How they do it, I don't know as I haven't looked.
But nothing seems to happen to aluminium dinghies does it?
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Tue, 31 May 2005 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toyota seem to have a very high quality alloy compared to some companies {ford for example}{as i have found anyway}

u can also get 4 bolt splayed mains on your ford and chev motors, what that means that u have 2 main bolts that run vertical and 2 that run at about a 30 deg angle, stops the caps from walking

look here

http://www.worldcastings.com/docs/05_cat_pg8.pdf
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Thu, 02 June 2005 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think 4 and 6-bolt mains are common in Alloy-block engines because aluminium alloys are a lot softer than Cast Iron, and far more prone to thermal expansion.

Both bad things when you're trying to locate crankshaft bearings accurately.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Fri, 03 June 2005 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chrishulbert wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 16:49

Really? I always heard that you couldn't put alloy heads on boat v8's because they'd rust away in no time. ??


That's because you're thinking about putting alloy heads on an iron block. This ends up with dielectric corosion of. If the whole water path is alloy or you add something like a magnesium sacraficial anode I see no reason for corrosion problems.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Fri, 03 June 2005 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
or u run the cooling system on a internal circuit with coolant and only have the radiator exposed to the river water.
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Re: What does "X Bolt Mains" mean? Fri, 03 June 2005 06:04 Go to previous message
Joshstix wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 11:20

chrishulbert wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 16:49

Really? I always heard that you couldn't put alloy heads on boat v8's because they'd rust away in no time. ??


That's because you're thinking about putting alloy heads on an iron block. This ends up with dielectric corosion of. If the whole water path is alloy or you add something like a magnesium sacraficial anode I see no reason for corrosion problems.


There's a certain combination you can't install copper gaskets in (mainly head-gaskets I think) as it corrodes aluminium very badly in some circumstances. I think it may be iron block / alloy head(s) . . Confused
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