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Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 11:52
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Well? Is it?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 11:55
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Depends if I'm the on irritating you 
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Wed, 01 June 2005 11:56
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no but is it wrong to whore on forums 
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 12:16
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| Conquest wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 22:11 |
SMS talk cuz u 2 lzy 2 b typn m8.
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Man this really shits me
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Not knowing the difference between your & you're, their, they're & there or wear, we're & where.
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I'm guilty of this cause I never went to school  But i'm willing to learn if someone wants to teach me 
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People who expect questions answered 5 minutes after they post.
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I also hate this 
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Wed, 01 June 2005 12:25
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Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
No
also,
see my signature
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 12:45
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Absolutely not.
On the subject, I don't like people calling H haitch... it's fucking aitch!!!!!
aitch
The letter h.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 12:59
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 21:52 |
Well? Is it?
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No. No it is not. I sometimes get REALLY picky about things like grammer. Probably because i've got an english major. See, even that sentence wasn't grammatically correct! 
As long as the writing's reasonably comprehendible i don't really mind it. The sms thing annoys the hell outta me though.
Eddie.
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Wed, 01 June 2005 13:07
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any of you that have seen my "bought not brought" thread know how i feel on the subject
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Wed, 01 June 2005 13:07
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Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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If some one is adept enough to use a high tech thing like a internet-connected computer they can fucking-well learn to spell and write proper sentences.
</rant>
Irritated enough for you? 
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 13:46
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| tyottsoarer wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 23:38 |
If you can't be bothered to spell out the whole word, don't bother at all. In fact, don't bother to breath either.
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It's breathe
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:01
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poor grammar or spelling doesnt bother me, people that quote it and winge about it in a thread with-out helping the purpose of that thread bother me.
as long as it's english (not that sms/leet shit), i'll read it.
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:24
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i let my brother send a SMS off my phone the other day, and recieved a reply i couldn't even read...pissed the hell out of me
Sent him an SMS telling him to use the prediction text so i could read it
As for on forums, yes it pisses me off because of their laziness, dont mind a few misspellings etc
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Wed, 01 June 2005 16:43
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if its not intentional, dropping a letter every once and a while doesnt shit me
1337 5p34k and sms tlk, BUG THE FUCK OUT OF ME
i cant stand some of the illiterate garbage that some people try to pass off as communication.
the keys on a keyboard really arent that far away in the grand scheme of things.
Eldar.O.
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Wed, 01 June 2005 22:49
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It pisses me off no end. I thought it was only because I'm an old prick who was properly schooled in spelling and grammar, but obviously it annoys a lot of you younger folk too. Granted I may not use commas and full stops in all the right places but I do try at least to make it comprehensible. Sometimes I get the odd word spelled incorrectly but at least it's all totally understandable.
I reckon it's just laziness. How hard it is to type those extra few letters in a word?
Damn kids and their loud Rock and Roll music.
Cheers, Greg.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:14
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| Farkurnell wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 08:49 |
Damn kids and their loud Rock and Roll music.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:16
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Hi,
C'mon Fark, there's nothing wrong with some good old loud Rock music.
But, this hip-hop and rap stuff is a different matter.
I agree with most people here in regards to spelling. Sure a few letters might get dropped here and there, but it's still readable. Some people's grammar is woeful and I'm not sure if it's all due to laziness or they just haven't been taught properly. SMS-talk maybe adequate on your mobile phone, but when it's on the forums, especially when the user has a proper QWERTY keyboard is beyond me. Maybe they're just trying to be "cool" and "hip", but, to me, it comes across as silly.
Same with maths. My neice is in year-10 and she doesn't know her basic multiplication tables. She counts with her fingers. It's not that she's dumb, but the school doesn't teach the old multiplication tables like they used to, and I think that's a shame.
Not like the good old days, hey Fark! Aye, when I was a kid....
seeyuzz
river
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:46
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I think it is called site not sight but you do raise a very vaild point.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:49
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 09:16 |
I think it is called site not sight but you do raise a very vaild point.
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Happy now.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:54
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| river wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 09:16 |
Hi,
Same with maths. My neice is in year-10 and she doesn't know her basic multiplication tables. She counts with her fingers. It's not that she's dumb, but the school doesn't teach the old multiplication tables like they used to, and I think that's a shame.
Not like the good old days, hey Fark! Aye, when I was a kid....
seeyuzz
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 They used a abacus when you where a kid.
I know my grammer & spelling is not good.(never did year 7)but SMS-text bugs me. and it only takes 1 click to spell check a post.and Dictionary.com is my best friend.
My math is, because I use a calculator.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 00:31
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| Big T wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 22:59 |
I sometimes get REALLY picky about things like grammer. Probably because i've got an english major.
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Hrmm....
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 00:32
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engrish?
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 00:58
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I know someone who gets annoyed when 'momentarily' is used incorrectly
I think there's a difference between something like
"I saw him momentarily"
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"I'll be there momentarily"
I think it's something to do with intransitive verbs (like 'be') and transitive verbs (like 'see') but I'm not an expert. I just don't say momentarily around her 
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Thu, 02 June 2005 01:55
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yeh it is annoiying, i try and just read past it though,..
i hate when people confuse "know" with "no" too
eg. "i no that guy!"
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Thu, 02 June 2005 01:57
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I cant stand it when people randomly put K on the end of words and say F instead of TH. Somethink anyfink
Grrr
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Thu, 02 June 2005 02:03
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Oh just to clarify the momentarily thing.
Best way to remember when to use it is only to use it in place of 'for a moment' rather than in place of 'in a moment'
www.thefreedictionary.com
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Thu, 02 June 2005 02:28
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supposedly? supposebly?
LOL @ chandler
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 02:38
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| thu187 wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 01:29 |
This shits me to no end. When I was in year 5 they made a big deal out of grammar and spelling etc. because averages for maths were around 75% and averages for english were around 60% so they made a huge focus on spelling and grammar. I didn't think it was that big a deal then you grow up and see people still not spelling things correctly or writing coherent sentences.
Come to think of it, they did a really good job. I used to know past/present participles and all the types of pronouns and lots of other things I've now forgotten and won't really need to use.
I don't mind if people make mistakes or don't know something. I don't mind SMS-style writing either but it has its place (not on forums!). It's when they are told and don't bother learn from it that pisses me off. If you're going to do something it's better to do it properly, right?
- Your - Is this your car? (ownership)
- You're - I hear you're going to the beach. (contraction for you are)
- There - The ball is over there. (a place)
- Their - They wanted to know if their dog was alright. (ownership)
- They're - He hates his parents because they're always mean to him. (contraction for 'they are')
- Wear - Please remember to wear pants. (a verb/action)
- Where - Where is takumi today? (a place)
- We're - We're on our way. (contraction for 'we are')
- His - Have you seen his car? (ownership)
- He's - He's got a few problems. He's a nut. (contraction for 'he is' or 'he has' depending on context)
People often swap he's and his (eg. His got a fully sick sub) around even when speaking.
- Its - That dog has its tail caught in a muffler.(ownership)
- It's - It doesn't matter if it's not finished. (contraction for 'it is')
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- Then - First you peel the skin, then you cut the orange.(time word)
- Than - I'm not as good as Takumi but I'm better than Itsuki. (comparison)
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Sombody else congratulate this guy too, he saved me having to type it all out, and has clearly outlined the correct use for all those words that shit me to tears when used incorrectly!!!
Someone sticky this post, and make all newbies read it before they engage their keyboards!!!
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Thu, 02 June 2005 03:18
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i cant believe how anal some of you guys are about this sort of shit.
its not like we are typing a essey or a novel....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 03:30
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no it'a not qrong yet to not allow some discresion is
see, the way i see it is , were all humans and make mistakes and there's bigger thign to worrg about than spelling and grammer when it's not taught to the standards most expect it to be at primary and secondry schooling
something i feel alot of people overlook is even thou soem of us are pretty advanced with our understandg of computing etc we aren't all touch typers let alone been taught how to type so we have many a bad habit when typing resulting in many an error
i know im guilty of it all the time
im also guilty of bastardisation of sentence structure due to plain lazieness, partially due to lack of typing skills amongst other things
to me if a person is makign an effort and listening to others when they try to contructivelly correct their mistakes then it's all good
my personaly pet peeve would be "me and me friends"
that drives me crazy considering you in almost every case come last in a sentence structure "my friends and i" being how it should be constructed
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Thu, 02 June 2005 03:33
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Was that ment to have so many typo's in it or did you just not realise. 
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Thu, 02 June 2005 03:39
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Isn't it funny how those replies telling us to get over it all have numerous spelling/grammatical errors.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 04:34
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| towe_001 wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 11:40 |
Read this aloud -
"I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabridge Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the lttees in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt!"
Got that from a friend thats going to uni. I read the first 5 words of it and i was there thinking to myself "shocking spelling but wtf...."
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About the only thing the shats me is the typing of sms code (eg 1337, like, WTF ?). Most times i'm able to work around the bad spelling and all that crap.
Yeah http://www.thefreedictionary.com is handy to have but if your like me and always having the screen full of internet crap like ebay, toymods, other forums, google, AltaVista, and the list goes on with downloads etc having a dictionary in book form is a great companion, pity you have to know the basics of the word first to get started on its spelling.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 05:31
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Bad grammar and punctuation drives me nuts too, I swear a large majority of school-leavers can't spell these days, makes me worry about the next generation!
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Thu, 02 June 2005 06:28
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Yeah, it irritates me cause it makes posts harder to read. Take a little effort and tidy them up!
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Thu, 02 June 2005 07:38
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Since i'm digging up old pictures, here's another
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Thu, 02 June 2005 07:54
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Yep, shits me no end as well. I let spelling and the odd grammar mistake slide because some people aren't as good/weren't taught everything, as long as they're making an effort.
The problem is some people seem to forget we've all got to read what they're writing, and if you don't consider that and just rant with no grammar or paragraph breaks it can be real tough to follow. Why make it more difficult than it has to be just to save yourself a second or two?
But yeah, the sms shit gets me the worst. I can figure most of it out but why should i have to? And while we're on the subject, one i can't figure out is "1337", WTF does that stand for?!
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Thu, 02 June 2005 07:59
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| Conquest wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 17:38 |
Since i'm digging up old pictures, here's another
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I nearly pissed my pants when I first saw this - GOLD ! !
Why didn't I think of that earlier ? ! ? !
So it's not just Me who gets peeved at this eh? 40 replies in 24 hours paints a fairly clear picture methinks. I know that not everone has a year-12 edumacation like Me, but . .
PRICE-IS-RIGHT CLEAVAGE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! KORRRRRR!!!!
Sorry - where was I? . . . Oh yeah, spelling and grammar are taught in PRIMARY SCHOOL! High-school English is about checking kids' progress in Yr.7&8, and ALL about comprehension, and writing after that. What was everyone doing instead of going to primary school?
I thought it may have just been Me who noticed all this. My Mother is a primary school teacher.
It's both a blessing (I kan spel and add ) and a curse (It pisses Me when others can't).
Oh - it's not strictly personal - I just don't get how so many ace citizens are allowed to slip through the educational cracks. . .
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:39
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| -gt- wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 17:54 |
I can figure most of it out but why should i have to? And while we're on the subject, one i can't figure out is "1337", WTF does that stand for?!
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You must be older than river!
1337 = leet = elite
1 = L
3 = E
7 = T (if you extend the horizontal line in 7, you get T)
4 = A (if you extend the diagonal line you can see it)
9 = g
etc.
sp34k
It's online gaming talk.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:45
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| inertia wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 22:45 |
Absolutely not.
On the subject, I don't like people calling H haitch... it's fucking aitch!!!!!
aitch
The letter h.
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 im guilty!
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:48
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| thu187 wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:39 |
sp34k
It's online gaming talk.
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1f y00 c4n r34d th15 y00 r34lly n33d t0 g3t l41d
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Thu, 02 June 2005 09:23
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| Conquest wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:48 |
| thu187 wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:39 |
sp34k
It's online gaming talk.
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1f y00 c4n r34d th15 y00 r34lly n33d t0 g3t l41d
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dammit, now where's that rolla_gurl thread
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Thu, 02 June 2005 09:38
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well take it from me, i try to type as well as i can. i'm doing yr12 vce and well i cant fucking type or spell for shit i forget the easiest words its not funny. since yr7 i havent really learnt shit in english all ive learnt is how to draw in a book and attempt to write an essay.
school is a joke you dont learn anything, better off learning yourself - basically what ive done in all my other subjects apart from maths purely because the teachers are too lazy to help. also i believe some students ie myself are too lazy to learn, i have basics and type good enough i hope.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 10:19
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I was forced to do ESL in high school for VCE. Now, if I can spell properly, I'm sure others with English as their first language should be able to as well, right?
Heh... first instruction on the top of the ESL paper in BOLD writing:
PLEASE DO NOT WRITE IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
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Thu, 02 June 2005 10:32
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| Yian wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 20:19 |
Heh... first instruction on the top of the ESL paper in BOLD writing:
PLEASE DO NOT WRITE IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
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eh? that's weird
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Thu, 02 June 2005 10:49
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Exactly what I thought. I mean, English is not my first language, but fuck, I can still construct proper sentences if I needed to.
They wanted us to write in dot points for our newspaper analytical 'essay'.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 11:17
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I am really not that pick when It comes to spelling as I really wouldnt be the one to judge as Im not that good of a speller, although I really get enoyed when people use Internet language like
"PaWnd" "Uber" "L337"
what the fuk is that crap suppost to mean seriously, soon enough there going to be teach sms english at schools I think with the rate this is all going.
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Thu, 02 June 2005 11:22
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| 20VBTSECA wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 21:56 |
no but is it wrong to whore on forums
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i like teddy bears
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 11:40
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Hi,
Well, one thing this thread has shown.... no-one seems to have a problem spelling "fuck"!
seeyuzz
river
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Thu, 02 June 2005 12:04
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That's cause it's a fecking easy word to spell river, ya old fugghead
It annoys me alot too, because like someone else said, WE HAVE TO READ IT AS WELL!
im juz sik of all dem bro'z who cum here wid der talk lik dis an evryfink it's jus fukin unbelivble, an id getz werse ova da holz i fink
IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO WRITE A SENTANCE AND SPELL PROPERLY.
It's kind of scary when I think that i'm worried about the next generation, since i'm only 25.
Oh well
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 12:49
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| rvrolla wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 10:31 |
| Big T wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 22:59 |
I sometimes get REALLY picky about things like grammer. Probably because i've got an english major.
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Hrmm....
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I don't get it? Or is the implication that english has nothing to do with grammer??
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 13:05
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| Big T wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 22:49 |
| rvrolla wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 10:31 |
| Big T wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 22:59 |
I sometimes get REALLY picky about things like grammer. Probably because i've got an english major.
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Hrmm....
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I don't get it? Or is the implication that english has nothing to do with grammer??
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haha you serious?
grammer is spelt grammar
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 13:19
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HAHAHAHA. Good thing i spent 6 years at uni to learn it eh Ah, that just made my day. I need that red squiggly line the paperclip word dude puts under everything he doesn't like.
Eddie.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 13:26
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i pride myself on my english, and while some hyphens and other random junk arent there, im sure my posts are quite coherant compared to some of the posts on here.
any spelling mistakes are a direct result of typing in the dark at 44 words per minute.
techinically, english is actually my second language, ive been in Aus since i was 4
im 18 now, and i own alot of people in spelling and grammar.
oh, and the one term that shits me off more than anything else is "sif" "as if" is only two extra keystrokes....
Eldar.O.
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Re: Is it wrong to be irritated by poor spelling and grammar?
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Thu, 02 June 2005 13:30
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| EldarO wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 23:26 |
oh, and the one term that shits me off more than anything else is "sif" "as if" is only two extra keystrokes....
Eldar.O.
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I always use sif in a cheeky manner.
eg. It was you wasn't it!
sif!
That's generally how people use it whenever I hear/see it.
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