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Hobart
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May 2005
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Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:01
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I have just purchased what i think is a 4AGZE, just wanted to check it was a 4AGZE and not a 4AGE. Is there any way to tell the difference??
iain
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, WA
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May 2003
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:06
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check if it has a supercharger????
duh
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:41
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I think/hope he means bottom end
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Castle Hill
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August 2003
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 21:57
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there should be 7 parallel ribs on the exhast side of the block.
To help you out try and do a search of google for a 4age and a 4agze and if your lucky you will be able to find some pics but you will definately be able to find some info...infact heres a page...
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/phil.bradshaw/4AGE% 20into%20RWD.htm
there is a table near the bottom of that page with all info about different 4ages and 4agzes.
If you still arent sure find someone with a 4agze and go and look at theirs, take some pics and compare.
Be careful, as this happened to a mate of mine, paid $400 for a 4AGZE bare motor (No intake,SC,exhaust,inj. etc) only to compare it to my GE and find out it had 3 ribs and isnt a GZE!
Hope that website helps ya!
Cheers.
-Whitchy-
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Central Coast, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 22:44
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| ae95 wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 00:06 |
check if it has a supercharger????
duh
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 (I was thinking the same thing)
Dan
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 22:49
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dude the ribs that tell the difference between a 3 rib and 7 rib block are on the inlet side of the block, and they are vertical. 4age engines also came with a 7 rib block.
providing the cam covers havnt been changed then the exhaust side cam cover should have 'supercharger' in it. and the timing belt cover should have '4agze' printed on it.
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:25
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i meant the timing belt cover isnt there, i will check the cam covers 2nite. Thanks if anyone has anymore help plz post back.
If it is a 4AGE 7 rib, what can i do to give it power of 4AGZE bottom end. Change pistons, rods, and what else.
Iain
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:44
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that pic shows a 7 rib smallport engine. whether a gze i cannot tell.
the inlet manifold you have there is a bigport item which will not match the inlet ports on your head.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Wed, 01 June 2005 23:54
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That looks like a ZE flywheel/clutch, but, NA rocker covers.
The only difference between the ZE and the NA on the late model motors is the pistons, short of pulling the head/sump and having a look at them, I've got nothing....
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 00:51
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Ok well the rocker covers are supercharged ones, i will take more pics of it tonight. So the head is a small port?? and the inlet manifold is big port?? it has 8 holes that come out to connect to the block. I will take more pics 2nite.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 01:41
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It's hard to pick the rocker covers from the side....
I'd say there is a pretty good chance you've got a ZE there.
It's definately a late model small port motor, that manifold is an early large port T-VIS unit.
I assume you're after a RWD manifold for it, you'll either need to get a FWD small port on cut-and-shut or get something like this:
http://www.technotoytuning.com/t3_site_pages/produ cts/port_adapter.html
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2003
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 02:30
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Its a T50 sitting down right i think as its been machined out a bit to get the ZE flywheel to fit. The adaptor plate i have i found didnt fit well, ill look and take more photos 2nite.
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 03:44
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Well i just spoke to the mechanic who rebuilt it and it was rebuilt 2 years ago, and sat in a shed for 1 yr before it was sold, the oil was keep up so that it didnt dry out. Then it was sold to the guy who i bought it through and it was the same for 1 yr until i bought it the other week. It still hasnt been run in so i will have to do so for 1500km. Its out of a AW11, i thought it was out of a AE92. Is there any limitations of a AW11?? over a AE92, i want to run about 140-160(MAX)rwkW.
Any other pointers to help would be great.
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 15:08
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Here are the images of the engine better angles. Also some pics of the turbo ( i dont know what the exhaust housing is ) and the inlet manifold + injector rails.
iain
ENGINE
INLET MANIFOLD
TURBO
REAR HOUSING
INJECTOR RAIL
INJECTOR RAIL
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Location:
Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Thu, 02 June 2005 20:52
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whoa... resize them pics dude, i'm not going to sit here for 1/2 an hour waiting for them to show (and i wanna look at them).
some of us still have cave man internet connections you know...  
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Location:
Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:55
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i dont know how to resize the pics
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Fri, 03 June 2005 11:01
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That's a GZE you got there, the orange injectors are GZE ones, and that inlet manifold will bolt up, but won't work 
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Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Telling the difference....
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Fri, 03 June 2005 15:43
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Well i am getting a custom plenum made up in weeks to come with a VN throttle body. Found out engine is out a of late model AE101 and has a MR2 ZE flywheel on it. So now im a bit happier that its a ZE but its a 101 so im happy as 
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