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Dilema.....Job Wise
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Thu, 02 June 2005 21:53
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Hey guys, this is something I thought I would never do, but I need advice, from other people. Ok, im in IT at the moment, and i thought I liked it, but im just not motivated to do anything anymore, so, yeah, im getting over it, I hate studying, and its an industry, where you need to keep studying. Now, I always wanted to be a truck driver when I was younger, and I still would love to, but where should I start?
Another couple of questions, what do you guys do, and who else does something, they wanted to please their parents for? 
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:13
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Thanks! Im not talking like big 18 wheelers, just like the double axel things.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:23
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I guess that money is not a problem because I think I.T. would pay a little better. Wouldn't you rather be in a job where your furthering your carrier all the time with new knowledge? I know I would rather be in a job where you have to think keeps the mind active.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:26
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the IT industry has shat itself, anyone whose not specialised must either cling to their job or find another industry to get into.
ive considered this as well, good luck KOFFEE let us all know how u go whatever you get into.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:27
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I'm totally over working in IT now also.. Just no idea what else to do.. Not trained in anything else really 
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:40
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 10:27 |
I'm totally over working in IT now also.. Just no idea what else to do.. Not trained in anything else really
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Same, I have worked for the transport industry tho, when I just finished school, got a fork lic, and done that for 8 months, mate, it was awesome, I should have kept going with it.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:40
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if you wanna do truck driving then go for it, but also think of doing nothing else but sitting in a truck all day. and constyantly gettin pissed off by traffic.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:43
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 10:27 |
I'm totally over working in IT now also.. Just no idea what else to do.. Not trained in anything else really
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this is the sentiment with a lot of IT ppl nowadays unfortunately.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 00:48
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Yeah, I dont know i've just got so unmotivated lately. Company I work for will pay for training etc but I'm really just not interested for some reason.
Want something totally different where im not with suits all day (no offence to those who like to wear suits) and prefably not suck infront of a computer screen and desk all day.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:00
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 10:48 |
Yeah, I dont know i've just got so unmotivated lately. Company I work for will pay for training etc but I'm really just not interested for some reason.
Want something totally different where im not with suits all day (no offence to those who like to wear suits) and prefably not suck infront of a computer screen and desk all day.
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Same!! Becaus eall i do, is browse the net all day, and get in trouble for it lol!! I need to get out there, the days go faster. Im sick of the city life, only good thing, is the woman, im sick of all the yuppie ba5tards too.,
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:01
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I had the same problem a while ago.The last jobs i had were marketing jobs and hospitality.
While i did well in these positions and got results it wasn't really where i wanted to be. So i've enroled in a training course in construction.
My dad is a sparkie and we talked about going into business together (then we could both have "& son" on the work van) but i'm more interested in being a builder seen as tho he is the person it revolves around.
Take a chance with trucking if not it's not like you are gunna forget all your IT stuff.
It's simply a case or what YOU want to do not what you are good at
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:17
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Yeah I know how you feel. I work in the Apple industry, and it's great when I get to go out onsite and set up networks, but fixing laptops in the office just plain sucks, plus the pay and margins are heaps low. What about sales? Good $ to be made there in some industries.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:20
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| Ribfeast wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 11:17 |
Yeah I know how you feel. I work in the Apple industry, and it's great when I get to go out onsite and set up networks, but fixing laptops in the office just plain sucks, plus the pay and margins are heaps low. What about sales? Good $ to be made there in some industries.
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Na, im not a good bullshit artist haha
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:50
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 07:53 |
Hey guys, this is something I thought I would never do, but I need advice, from other people. Ok, im in IT at the moment, and i thought I liked it, but im just not motivated to do anything anymore, so, yeah, im getting over it, I hate studying, and its an industry, where you need to keep studying. Now, I always wanted to be a truck driver when I was younger, and I still would love to, but where should I start?
Another couple of questions, what do you guys do, and who else does something, they wanted to please their parents for?
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At the end of the day you've got to be reasonably happy with what you do...Doesn't hurt to try something different. You'll always have the I.T. background to fall back onto.
It is a shit feeling looking back in hindsight and thinking "oh, if only I tried this or had done that".
That is my $0.02
[Updated on: Fri, 03 June 2005 02:30]
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 11:20
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yeah i'm studying IT and i've decided to quit cause the course is shit and i havn't learnt one thing after 6 months. So much for the diploma.
I wanna be a mechanic now, like build engines and all that stuff but being 20 it'll be hard to get an apprenticeship with no experience and the only tafe that does it is hell far away. 
But i'm good at computer and theres lots of money in the industry, oh decisions decisions
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 14:55
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 08:27 |
I'm totally over working in IT now also.. Just no idea what else to do.. Not trained in anything else really
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Move to Perth and keep horses!
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 16:39
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| jackel wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 21:20 |
I wanna be a mechanic now, like build engines and all that stuff but being 20 it'll be hard to get an apprenticeship with no experience and the only tafe that does it is hell far away.
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Same, I'm 20 also, and I have no idea how to start as an apprentice, or if I'll even be accepted cause of my age. Also, I don't know where to look, I checked the Tafe and Apprenticeship websites, but they didn't seem to tell me HOW.
Australia has a skills shortage, wonder why :\
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 16:45
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man, working in IT is alright..
sometimes.
There are days when I don't wanna get out of bed.
There are other days when I think, this is alright.
I hate studying all the time tho.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 21:43
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man, i hate getting outta bed everyday! Damn, its 7:40am, and Im about to go to work, its farking SATURDAY!!
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 21:59
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Sat, 04 June 2005 07:43 |
man, i hate getting outta bed everyday! Damn, its 7:40am, and Im about to go to work, its farking SATURDAY!!
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 DON'T become a truck driver then.
IT/office work = air-conditioned work area.
 Truck driver out in -3 or up 40 degrees mmmmmmmmm
I only wish I had that sort of education when I was younger.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Fri, 03 June 2005 22:30
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Sat, 04 June 2005 07:43 |
man, i hate getting outta bed everyday! Damn, its 7:40am, and Im about to go to work, its farking SATURDAY!!
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Getting out of bed? And your complaining??  I just got home from work. I have just graduated and I'm still doing nightshift at Coles... bah
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Sat, 04 June 2005 00:02
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Hi,
IT, like most industries can be good or bad, depending upon what you're doing in that industry.
I'm in IT and I have to admit most of it was great. The area where I specialise in is the Financial Markets/Trading Systems and there's always new technology and always something to do. Fortunately the Financial Markets usually have the money to throw into new systems and things like that, as opposed to the Retail and Wholesale Banking areas.
Before that I worked to chip level doing microprocessor and microcontroller hardware and software deign and development. I really loved that.
The thing I dislike the most about IT is the push from large vendors to constantly put out new software that requires expensive learning and you always seem to be learning something new that, in reality, doesn't do anything much better than what you had. Plus the "dumbing down" of technical people who used to get into the guts of system programming and stuff like that, who now just need to sit in front of a pretty window-panel screen and click on the various options. Something goes wrong you call the vendor 'cos there's no way you know the internals of the product to fix it yourself.
Programming used to be fun, and you used to need to know a fair bit to do it properly. Now, however, with products like Java and C# and .NET just about any monkey can program. Furthermore, your code can now be absolute shit (run like a pig and hog memory) but it's okay, we'll just whack in a faster (or second) processor and put in an extra gig of RAM and she'll be okay.
Hardware repairs are the same. No more board level repair work. You just throw out the offending component and plug in a new one. You've just become a board jockey. Whoo-Hoo!!!!!
Hardly mind challenging stuff.
However, there are areas in IT where you can get some satisfaction and enjoyment out of your work. It depends on exactly what you want to do and to try and find that area within the industry that appeals to you. When you wake up each day and curse the heavens that you have to go to your shithouse job, then it's time for a change.
seeyuzz
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Sat, 04 June 2005 14:20
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I'm a truck driver, and I've got to say it's pretty good, out in the sunshine all day, doing easy stuff like ropes, straps, dogs and chains, a lot of the stuff you do is mentally easy, but phyiscally harder, like climbing up on the tray or on top of loads to pull straps and ropes over a load, or even to tarp a load if the weather looks bad. I drive an MR truck, which means it's a Medium Rigid, so I can drive any truck with 2 axles total and upto a GVM of about 16 tonnes. I work for a transport company that is run out of Dubbo, but I work out of the smaller Sydney depot, which is good as we don't cop any flak from the admin in Dubbo as my boss here in Sydney keeps our depot running smoothly. We carry general freight, which means just about anything, from tyres, wood, steel, pallets of anything, chemicals, motor-bikes, smaller trucks, 4-wheelers, anything you can think of, if your thinking of driving a truck, make sure you know what you want to carry before you look for a job, it will make it easier to find something that suits you.
Your best bet would probably be to get a HR license, which is Heavy Rigid, as then you can drive any truck under a semi, which would give you more of a chance of landing a good job, I'll probably be upgrading my license soon to HC, which is Heavy Combination, which is a semi-trailer license, as I'm looking to switch over to car-carrying sometime in the future, but a lot of the time your only driving an MR or HR when carrying cars, but it just gives you more scope for later on.
I reckon if your considering giving truck driving a go, head to a Heavy Vehicle License Instructor and do the course with them and get your truck license and you will see if it's what you want to do or not, as someone else said it will cost you a bit to get the license initially, but then once you've got it you'll always have it, even if you don't get a driving job straight away, it will always be there and you can fall back on it anytime. Getting the license is easy, it's mostly common-sense, you've just got to be more aware of your surroundings and know the vehicle dimensions well, oh and also watch out for just about every car on the road, because car drivers seem to think an truck big or small can brake and pull up in the same time and distance as a family sedan lol. 
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Mon, 06 June 2005 05:11
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Yeah, thanks for that info dude. Im really interested in doing it.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Mon, 06 June 2005 05:23
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I used to want to drive a truck...now i want to be a postie and hammer around on a bike all day, damn that would be fun. I've heard posties get a grand p/week?
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Mon, 06 June 2005 06:05
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| unforgiven wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 13:23 |
I used to want to drive a truck...now i want to be a postie and hammer around on a bike all day, damn that would be fun. I've heard posties get a grand p/week?
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posties get a grand per week?
not a fooking chance.
if you want money, scaffolding is the way to go $45+ per hour, bloke i know does it.
he has a TT Soarer too, although he does bitch about petrol drying up
Eldar.O.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Mon, 06 June 2005 06:30
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Heh...you want money...two words.
Construction Industry.
Do you know how much builders get paid?! 
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Tue, 07 June 2005 03:04
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Last year this builder my dad works for shouted 16 blokes dinner at an expensive steakhouse in hobart. word wasd the bill was well over $5000.
This bloke is not short of a dollar or two. This is where i want to work.
They were talking about shortening appentiships from 4 years to 3 years.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Tue, 07 June 2005 04:50
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unforgiven.
Being a former employee of Australia Post, I can tell you that posties do not get a grand a week.
However, they do work less hours and get *roughly* the same amount as a regular 8 hour shift elsewhere.
The weeks leading into christmas though. Now that would be a different storie.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Tue, 07 June 2005 04:55
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My dream job would be a F1 driver, but in the real world, an accountant high on stress working untill all my hair falls off.
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Re: Dilema.....Job Wise
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Tue, 07 June 2005 07:23
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Get into Engineering Project Management Systems.
Easier to do in Perth because of Mining Boom over here.
I went straight into it from uni, with an IT degree, and currently earn more than 1st and 2nd year graduate engineers.
(a little over the half century, but will supply no further information so dont ask .)
I think thats pretty good first job out of uni.
I have plenty of options / career paths I can take. The place I work has an excellent graduate development program, So I can pretty much become whatever I want, and get paid the whole time.
No need to go back to uni fulltime and earn no money  Can go parttime and have half of the fees are covered by the company 
I think I might just be here a while
An IT degree on its own is not worth a crumpet, but combine it with something else and you are in business !
-Adam
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