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Sun, 05 June 2005 10:56
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Hey all, as some of u may know i hav a ST184 hatchback with a 3sgte, and am looking at fitting a FMIC,and straight intake , meaning id like to move the battery.. my question is if i move my battery to my boot,will i need it engineered..to suit, and/or will the cops give me a hard time about it ?
As normal,any advice or help is thanked..!
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 05 June 2005 10:58
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yes. battery needs to be securely strapped in (battery clamp thru the bootpan works well), in a sealed box, and vented to atmosphere. A big fuckoff fuse of some kind is also a good idea back there, to stop your interior catching on fire if your wiring sucks 
and yes, engineering
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 05 June 2005 12:52
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Check this link out,
Lachlan's page
Michael
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 05 June 2005 12:57
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which is complete crap actually.
you still need to have the battery box vented, even if you use a sealed or dry type battery. I have a sealed battery with it's own venting tube, but the box must still be sealed and vented (because the RTA is a long way behind on battery technology)
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 05:31
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Fair enough, well disregard my previous post then,
Michael
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 05:46
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not meaning to shit on you or anything, just re-read that and realised I sounded agro 
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 08:51
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You most definately DO NOT require an engineers certificate for relocating the battery and a sealed battery or a battery with an in-built vent does not need to be in another sealed container.
The reason that a battery needs to vent to atmosphere in the first place is that whilst charging (driving), a lead acid battery produces hydrogen gas and as the people on the hindenburg found out.. Hydrogen go's boom very easily.
Therefore.. gass vented = legal.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 08:57
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| Kurt.R wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 18:51 |
You most definately DO NOT require an engineers certificate for relocating the battery and a sealed battery or a battery with an in-built vent does not need to be in another sealed container.
The reason that a battery needs to vent to atmosphere in the first place is that whilst charging (driving), a lead acid battery produces hydrogen gas and as the people on the hindenburg found out.. Hydrogen go's boom very easily.
Therefore.. gass vented = legal.
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Your ghey and you know nothing at all. Go crawl back under the rock from which you came out from.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:10
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| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 18:27 |
Your ghey and you know nothing at all. Go crawl back under the rock from which you came out from.
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Gotta love these kinda comments.
"You are wrong so you suck and im not going to tell you why".
Definitely shows maturity 
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:18
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Right.
So you should explain why he was wrong, or at least hint at it (ie, tell him to search).
Remember we were all newbies at one point, commenting to them like you did just scares them off = bad for the community.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:19
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Good point 
Kurt.R, go search and find out why you are soooo wrong.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:20
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:25
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as the people on the hindenburg found out.. Hydrogen go's boom very easily.
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Not car related, but the hindenburg went up in flames, not from the hydrogen but from the cellulose acetate and aluminium powder that it's 'skin' was waterproofed with. Hydrogen burn with an almost invisible flame, The hindenburg went up in a fireball that was very visable!
As for the batttery in the boot idea, I have none!
good luck, hope you liked the useless info
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Wed, 08 June 2005 10:13
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and if you search really closely in the forums history - youll see how to rear mount a battery in a st18* provided by yours truely - complete with pictures
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Wed, 08 June 2005 10:49
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just buy a 7kg Odessey battery and weld a mounting cradle onto the strut brace. Or right over against the side of the bay.
Saves buggering around with extra fuses, 5meters of very thick power cable, new grounds etc...
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Thu, 09 June 2005 00:23
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Thanks stu,ive found your write up on it , and am putting it in to practice asap...if i hav any questions regarding it,can i ask u via pm..?
Still will i need it engineered..? i will most likely get a sealed battery...? ..
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Thu, 09 June 2005 01:27
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| draven wrote on Sun, 05 June 2005 22:57 |
which is complete crap actually.
you still need to have the battery box vented, even if you use a sealed or dry type battery. I have a sealed battery with it's own venting tube, but the box must still be sealed and vented (because the RTA is a long way behind on battery technology)
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That depends a lot on what state you are in. ACT does not require sealed batteries to be vented (Odessy etc) or for that matter even in a box. When my Sprinter was engineered and went over the Dickson pits they said no word about it. It did however have to get a little sticker which stated "If this battery is replaced with a non-sealed type it must be placed in a proper enclosure".
Ill get a photo of it next time im near the car.
Gets back to the "Check with the RTA in your relevant State" which everyone seems to forget to do.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Thu, 09 June 2005 06:48
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he's in my state
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Thu, 09 June 2005 10:03
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And??? This is a national forum, others who read this are not necessarily in your state.
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Thu, 09 June 2005 10:33
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re my battery - its Ok as far , engineer likes how it was set out + hasnt said anythign against it
Remember im in victoria - so laws might be diferent
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Thu, 09 June 2005 12:19
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Ok for all you victorians lifted from vic roads web page:
"The vehicle battery must be properly secured in the design or other location. If the battery is moved to the boot or other suitable location inside the vehicle it must be secured in a suitable covered container, attached to the vehicle and provided with drainage through the base to outside the vehicle. A suitable container must prevent leakage or spillage of any liquid in the container inside the vehicle and prevent electrical shorting under likely operating conditions."
Basically sealed and vented and must be well secured, though it doesnt say anything about where you should run your cables. So it pretty much states what every1 else has been saying
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Sat, 11 June 2005 09:31
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Where do I even start.
Firstly to mister 'I'm a tree huggin fuck stick cause I have a frog as my avatar' AKA Cool1. From your name I thought you were one of these 15 year old keyboard warriors but then I saw that you are about my age. here's a hint... if you have to name your self 'Cool1' then you probably arn't realy cool at all.
Secondly you said I was wrong about everything and i'm sure you would know being an "electronic technician"... what is that supposed to be, like some one who works at Jaycar or something??
I'm an Avionic Technician in the defence force and a licensed aircraft maintenance engineer so I know what i'm fucking well talking about.
Then you suggest that I do a search to find out about this topic instead of the person who started this thread in the first place.
If you don't have anything constructive to say then shut the fuck up or do you like stirring shit in these forums cause your too piss weak to do it face to face.
Cheers,
Kurt
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sat, 11 June 2005 15:23
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dude - being an avionics technition has nothing to do with the RTA - the rules are pretty clear - batterymust be in a sealed box vented to atmosphere. while some engineers may pass other set-ups, this is the only one that is strictly legal.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sat, 11 June 2005 22:32
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| Kurt.R wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 19:31 |
Where do I even start.
Firstly to mister 'I'm a tree huggin fuck stick cause I have a frog as my avatar' AKA Cool1. From your name I thought you were one of these 15 year old keyboard warriors but then I saw that you are about my age. here's a hint... if you have to name your self 'Cool1' then you probably arn't realy cool at all.
Secondly you said I was wrong about everything and i'm sure you would know being an "electronic technician"... what is that supposed to be, like some one who works at Jaycar or something??
I'm an Avionic Technician in the defence force and a licensed aircraft maintenance engineer so I know what i'm fucking well talking about.
Then you suggest that I do a search to find out about this topic instead of the person who started this thread in the first place.
If you don't have anything constructive to say then shut the fuck up or do you like stirring shit in these forums cause your too piss weak to do it face to face.
Cheers,
Kurt
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No need to be like that mate. If you want to give me a head job, just ask.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 00:22
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hey all , i ended up buying a optima battery, its fully (sik) sealed and has the "plates" coiled...would that be ok in a battery box hey ...? oh and draven , you got them pics yet bro .. would be good to see...
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 00:39
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I thought I e-mailed them to you already?
pm me your e-mail addy and I'll re-send them this arvo - I'm at work at the moment, so I can't do it right now for you.
Any battery in a sealed case will be fine - I'll give you a full description of my setup in my e-mail, and also the other options that are safe & easy to do (and legal)
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 05:18
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Yeah if you have a normal battery it needs to be in a sealed container vented to atmosphere. BUT like I said before.. If the battery is sealed or has a built in vent to atmosphere it does not need to be inside ANOTHER container(in N.S.W.)
And I'm aware that being an avionic technician has nothing to do with the RTA, I wrote that in response to dick heads comment about knowing nothing about batteries e.t.c.
I have been through the process of engineering 3 cars all with batteries in the boot. I have been to court for defects 3 times representing myself every time and won every time so I do have some clue about the the RTA's Regulations.
Cheers,
Kurt.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 06:47
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| Kurt.R wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 15:18 |
Yeah if you have a normal battery it needs to be in a sealed container vented to atmosphere. BUT like I said before.. If the battery is sealed or has a built in vent to atmosphere it does not need to be inside ANOTHER container(in N.S.W.)
And I'm aware that being an avionic technician has nothing to do with the RTA, I wrote that in response to dick heads comment about knowing nothing about batteries e.t.c.
I have been through the process of engineering 3 cars all with batteries in the boot. I have been to court for defects 3 times representing myself every time and won every time so I do have some clue about the the RTA's Regulations.
Cheers,
Kurt.
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Your tha man. You'll now have to quit foozball and take up boxing because, you are tha maaan.
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 08:07
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| Kurt.R wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 15:18 |
Yeah if you have a normal battery it needs to be in a sealed container vented to atmosphere. BUT like I said before.. If the battery is sealed or has a built in vent to atmosphere it does not need to be inside ANOTHER container(in N.S.W.)
And I'm aware that being an avionic technician has nothing to do with the RTA, I wrote that in response to dick heads comment about knowing nothing about batteries e.t.c.
I have been through the process of engineering 3 cars all with batteries in the boot. I have been to court for defects 3 times representing myself every time and won every time so I do have some clue about the the RTA's Regulations.
Cheers,
Kurt.
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my guess would be the copper didn't bother to show up, do they ever?
neways i go away to join another club and your guys start fighting all over again.
richie, as i understand it you have all the things you need for you conversion, but as for engineering, you will have to get that done as if its the same as queensland your car doesn't have a "boot" coz you have lift back its considered part of the cabin area and does require being placed in a suitable vented box.
thats from my own knowledge and based on QLD standards, i apoligise if i am wrong.
PS paul if your still getting around can you explain what you sugested to me, i would be interested to know, still looking into what i'm goin to do with m car.
also shane lighten up, not everyone that is agro with you wants to give you head
sorry editted i quote the wrong person
[Updated on: Sun, 12 June 2005 08:14]
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Re: battery in boot....St18*
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Sun, 12 June 2005 08:32
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| DunkyMonkey wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 18:07 |
also shane lighten up, not everyone that is agro with you wants to give you head
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Yeah they do.
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Sun, 12 June 2005 08:43
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 18:32 |
| DunkyMonkey wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 18:07 |
also shane lighten up, not everyone that is agro with you wants to give you head
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Yeah they do.
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oh right my bad, thats what i've been feeling
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