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Brisbane
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 03:57
 
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Those pics contain another mechanic puppeh!
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 04:02
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That's Clampy 
She LOVES coming to work to help me...
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 04:02
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PM sent !!! 
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 04:34
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Another V8 supra (turbo)!!
Read my site re Dellow Automotive.
Go with a CRS belhousing.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 05:07
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Suprapete: did you use a Dellow flywheel?
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 05:26
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No. I used my 7M lightened flywheel and adapted it for the 1UZ.
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 05:34
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There is a guy in QLD who makes/sells 1UZ flywheels that are lighter than the CRS version.
Im probably going to use one for my 1UZ conversion.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 06:24
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SupraPete: Can you supply details of how this was done? Was the 1UZ ringgear put on the 7M? Who did the machining?
M.W.P.: Does this guy have a webpage or any info online? Do you know what they cost?
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Sydney
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Tue, 17 May 2005 07:00
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[quote title=1ndecent wrote on Tue, 17 May 2005 16:24]SupraPete: Can you supply details of how this was done? Was the 1UZ ringgear put on the 7M? Who did the machining?[quote]
Theres a spacer between the auto flywheel and the engine. This was used as a template to drill new holes in the 7M flywheel. The ringear was taken off the auto flywheel and heat shrunk onto the 7M flywheel. It was then balanced (cost more than machining).
Machining was done by a local shop which I don't know the name, and balancing at another nameless machining shop.
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Wed, 18 May 2005 07:22
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Does anyone know the size of the friction plate in the Toyota Dyna clutch that the Dellow kit uses?
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 18 May 2005 14:20
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great conversion into an MA70 BUT did you have to fuck a 1 of 500 Turbo A!! 
I cry everytime i see a riced or hacked up Turbo A cant people just get a aust delivered Ma70 or a GA70 POS and hack those up!
no offence dude, your car do what you like but GEEEZZZZZ 
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Location:
Perth
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January 2003
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Perth
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra
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Thu, 19 May 2005 04:21
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| SupraPete wrote on Tue, 17 May 2005 14:34 |
Another V8 supra (turbo)!!
Read my site re Dellow Automotive.
Go with a CRS belhousing.
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I just found out that the CRS bellhousing is made for the shorter 160mm input shaft than some R154s have (Hilux?).
If you want to put one on a Supra R154 with the 190mm input shaft they sting you another $275 for a spacer plate.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 19 May 2005 04:32
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Thats gone up.
Its was only $150 back in August.
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 19 May 2005 08:35
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That could explain all my clutch problems. My spacer is only 16mm (plus another 1 or 2mm for gap. If I add another 12mm it might fix my clutch problem completely.
That explains a lot. Also means dellow is worse than I originally thought as they didn't tell me that, they actually said the one they sold me was *definately* for a 190mm shaft.
Thinking must be done about this. ... spend another $500 to get the gearbox dropped, a new bearing for the clutch slave cylinder and the legs of the slave cylinder shortened another 10-12mm. And to find a shop that'll do it all for me as I don't feel like doing the work myself.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 19 May 2005 08:44
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The guy I talked to at Dellow said he remembered you from school, and that you had bought the bellhousing for the 160mm front shaft.
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 19 May 2005 09:00
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Haha awesome! They remember now, but couldn't help me then (even when I brought my gearbox in to show them). Can't believe they remembered me from 2 and a half years ago.
Well now I know my problem for sure. Now I can go about fixing it!
Now if I get a spacer I'll need to change my mounts, so maybe just grind down my slave cylinder legs on the shaft. Still need the bearing fom my slave cylinder.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Wed, 08 June 2005 05:07
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I got a box of goodies from Dellow yesterday
Will post links to pics of bellhousing, clutch, flywheel etc.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 06:04
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 07:29
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*sigh* there should be standards of manifacture for automotive parts so fugly crap like that never sees the light of day i have seen better castings come out of china!
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melb
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February 2005
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 12:45
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GET THE FLYWHEEL BALANCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It weighs 14 kg and is NOT balanced 
It spins at up to 7000 rpm and if the threaded to the head (NOT SHANKED) bolts shear and it gets away it wont stop at bellhousing,floorpan,legs,windscreen,etc.
MATT.
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 13:26
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What weight is the clutch?
What car is the clutch from?
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UK
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August 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 13:50
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Looking good!!!!
I considered this conversion once my selfa few years back, but never got around to it (story of my like lol) What are you doing with teh cross members? I thought a 1UZ fitted right onto a late spec cross member?
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 22:41
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If it's TT ,.. I'd take a guess at saying that clutch will slip unless the clamping force is on the extreme side, then you will need a leg like Arnie ,..
Justen should be able to confirm this as well,
Sorry don't want to sound negative just trying to save you the hassle of putting it all together then having to remove it
I have tried 3 single plate setup all ended up slipping in a short time ,.. so have since gone to multi plate
Justen with his TT GT4 1u is going through the same process ,.. i think he is on his 2nd or 3rd clutch as well
Hope this helps,.. this is not meant to be negative just some advice
J
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Canberra
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June 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Wed, 08 June 2005 23:44
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I ran a single plate briefly...just to get the car to Dubbo really as it was all i could get my hands on while waiting for the custom twin plate. It wouldn't hold any psi but then i didn't expect it to. The twin 5 puck button clutch (i have pics if you want) holds the current 270rwkw...just. Signs of slipping when i pulled it out to do the tranny swap. The new setup is twin 4 puck (long story) so see how this more agressive puck arrangement holds up.
Not many of these on the road so if you have any questions drop me an email. Should be a pearler, keen to see the finished result.
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 01:06
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Allan: What is so exrtremely poor about that casting?
FASTFOO: How do you know that flywheel is not balanced? Usually the holes are drilled around the outer edge which you wouldnt see. Realistically you should get the clutch and flywheel together balanced as one.
1ndecent: Just so you can get an idea of clutch, i have a similar clutch to yours with 3000lb clamping force. It has no problem with my landy with 400hp and mass off around 1850kg with driver and fuel. It doesent slip like a normal organic full face but is still easy to drive. Main problem is the 3000lb clamp pushes my hydraulics to their limits and is arnie leg worthy.
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 03:08
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| FASTFOO wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 22:45 |
GET THE FLYWHEEL BALANCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It weighs 14 kg and is NOT balanced
It spins at up to 7000 rpm and if the threaded to the head (NOT SHANKED) bolts shear and it gets away it wont stop at bellhousing,floorpan,legs,windscreen,etc.
MATT.
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I plan to get the flywheel and clutch balanced as an assembly, and will be using proper 12.9 capscrews, not the 8.8 bolts provided. Aiming for 8000rpm too. 
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 03:09
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| Skip wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 10:36 |
It has no problem with my landy with 400hp and mass off around 1850kg with driver and fuel.
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Getting a little off topic here, but what have you done to get 400hp?
Its still NA right?
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 03:11
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| M.W.P. wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 11:09 |
| Skip wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 10:36 |
It has no problem with my landy with 400hp and mass off around 1850kg with driver and fuel.
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Getting a little off topic here, but what have you done to get 400hp?
Its still NA right?
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Its a 1JZGTE dude.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 03:27
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Jasper,
Good to see that it is coming along well.
Still interested in the cams though !!! PM sent
Cheers
Michael B
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:34
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I may take it to my local clutch guy, he has helped me out in the past increasing clamp loads by moving the pivots on the diaphram and milling the seat for the clutch housing.
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This i what my clutch has had done to it.
The other guys are probably right though, youll end up needing a twin plate 
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:43
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I am aiming to get the thing running before the blowers go on. It will help me make sure that everything is OK mechanically, and be much easier to register the engine conversion. I wouldn't be surprised if I do need another clutch down the track, particularly if I fit a decompressed motor for higher boost.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Thu, 09 June 2005 12:07
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 09:44 |
I ran a single plate briefly...just to get the car to Dubbo really as it was all i could get my hands on while waiting for the custom twin plate. It wouldn't hold any psi but then i didn't expect it to. The twin 5 puck button clutch (i have pics if you want) holds the current 270rwkw...just. Signs of slipping when i pulled it out to do the tranny swap. The new setup is twin 4 puck (long story) so see how this more agressive puck arrangement holds up.
Not many of these on the road so if you have any questions drop me an email. Should be a pearler, keen to see the finished result.
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Some pics of your clutch evolution would be great! Clamp loads, holding torque figures and prices would be good too. I am going to run with the single plate as long as it lasts, but it never hurts to plan ahead...
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Canberra
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June 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Fri, 10 June 2005 03:47
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Drop me an email if you want clutch pics as i don't have a site to FTP from. As for clamp force it's a whole different kettle of fish with twin plates as you don't need to have huge pressure as you have doubled the friction surface. My setup uses what would be considered a heavy duty holden six diaphram. Pedal feel is quite light, barely more than stock feel. Thus far there was no noticeable slip laying down 270rwkw thru a pair of 255 18's. there were some heat spots on things when i took it out though so there is some slip but nothing you would worry about.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Fri, 10 June 2005 08:50
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Justen's Clutch
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Sat, 11 June 2005 03:10
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Looks much better condition than my twin plate
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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Perth
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Sun, 12 June 2005 00:47
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| M.W.P. wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 19:01 |
What flywheels are you guys using?
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I'm using one from Dellow, it was $350 plus $25 to have the ringgear from my 1UZ flexplate fitted. There is a pic earlier in this thread.
Suprapete is using a redrilled 7M flywheel.
Not sure what Justen is using, it looks very different to mine.
If anyone has pics of the "lightweight" flywheel that Quad Cams Australia makes please post them up along with price.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Sun, 12 June 2005 01:48
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QCA's
$340 plus $120 for a new ring gear.
At least thats what the price was 18months ago when I bought it.
Thus far it has shat on the quality of any other flywheel I've seen.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Sun, 12 June 2005 02:41
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QCA flywheel does look nice! What clutch are you using CrUZsida?
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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melb
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February 2005
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Sun, 12 June 2005 14:34
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| 1ndecent wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 13:08 |
| FASTFOO wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 22:45 |
GET THE FLYWHEEL BALANCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It weighs 14 kg and is NOT balanced
It spins at up to 7000 rpm and if the threaded to the head (NOT SHANKED) bolts shear and it gets away it wont stop at bellhousing,floorpan,legs,windscreen,etc.
MATT.
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I plan to get the flywheel and clutch balanced as an assembly, and will be using proper 12.9 capscrews, not the 8.8 bolts provided. Aiming for 8000rpm too.
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GOOD MAN do it right and no one has to see a coroner! 
MATT.
P.S. I Know what they are like because I used one once and spent $$$ on top of the cost to make it something I would put in one of my customers cars.
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Mon, 13 June 2005 04:11
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| CrUZsida wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 13:14 |
It was supposed to be 2200lbs, and be able to handle a couple of pounds of boost, but its began to slip.
I think thats due to the fact that the release bearing was always putting pressure on the plate, so I wasn't getting full clamping force.
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I didn't know you had this problem.
What is the cause of yours?
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Mon, 13 June 2005 04:16
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Firstly I didn't put the front oil seal for the gearbox in correctly, so the clutch plate got infected with oil.
But I pulled the clutch off and cleaned it with degreaser/carby cleaner, etc etc, replaced the front oil seal and reinstalled.
Took a couple of days before the grip was back, but it was fine after that.
Ever since day one its only needed about 5mm pushing on the clutch pedal to get the pressure plate to begin disengaging (ie it you are resting your foot there, and stand on the throttle the revs will fly up)
I just think the stock release bearing carrier has positioned the bearing too close to the pressure plate with the way the CRS bellhousing mounts the fork.
I'll be modding it before it goes back in.
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Perth
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January 2003
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Re: Turbo 1UZ into Turbo A Supra Pics
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Tue, 19 July 2005 07:40
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I just had the clamp load on the clutch measured at 2000lbs.
The chap who measured it is going to increase the clamp load as much as possible, he estimated around 2500lbs...
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