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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 07 June 2005 02:41
 
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thanks mate, thanks for the PM too matt ! yeh only had scrubbin on the front around a corner on the guards, am gonna look into rolling em !!!! thanks for the advice , wat styles do you recon i should go , previously had chromes ( see piccy ) ? !!
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 07 June 2005 02:53
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| RobST162 wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 09:55 |
| warrior wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 23:12 |
well guys i put my car for sale on the forum and jorrs snapped it up in 11 minutes  .
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=71125&rid=5064&S=2b7dbb4c0633d93b07ac375 fbd7fb955
put a deposit on it electronically and will pick it up this weekend  , i still havent run the turbo in. really sad to see her go, but its for the best. i will be getting another st162 very soon. afterall i do have a life time supply of parts for them  . will keep you guys posted on the outcome, but today is a sad day. (for me anyway)
Karl
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well thanks for TELLING ME! 
 sad day dude hope your doing alright! 
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sorry dude, it was a spur of the moment thing,
we had great times doing the conversion,
and our garlic breath made it harder to get it started. 
I'm still pinching myself, the car is going on Sunday
I don't think you will gain much by upgrading your rear
calipers and rotors to gt4, and seeing your car is N/A,
I really don't see the benefit of upgrading the fronts either.
you can run a 17X7 with 35 offset on the rear,
but unfortunately u cant on the front cause they will rub,
the optimum wheel size would be 17X7 with 40 offset,
but i wouldn't recommend to go any larger than 205/40/17
so that you don't throw off your speedo.
Karl (in denial)
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South Australia
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May 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 07 June 2005 04:30
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Im runing 17 x 7.5" with 215/40/R17 and i have no rubbing isues what so ever. I am not totally sure on offset but the wheels either came off a euro car or a rex. Their is also no space at all between the rear struts and wheels. I say around 2-3mm of space.
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 07 June 2005 13:24
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I got a jaycar kit for $120, installed it, was quiet easy. Very very handy.
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Perth
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April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 07 June 2005 16:17
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Sorry nick, but i think i will take rob's remote entry if'n'when he wants to pull it out
Thanks for the offer! Gimme a shout when you get it done mate.. no real rush.. and we'll organise it the send then 
Buying new... im not sure if it's really gonna be worth spending $150++ for it.
But the SX power locks install from a wrecker will be a good idea. I'll try and chase some down soon and see how much they will let em go for
While i'm there ill chase around gt4 side bits hehe
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 01:19
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Ey Fellas,
Took the car for a very very hard drive round a track, and the front wheels do scrub on the gards, but its only the front drivers side.
Im getting new springs/shocks in the next 2 weeks, see if that makes a difference, if not can someone explain to me whats involved when you "roll the guards"
Cheers
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 05:05
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Intercooler is on and running
Money shot...
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 06:10
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hi ppl !
im new to the st162 club - i bought my car only two weeks and a half weeks ago
i luv it
ive already organised for a transplant to a gen 2 3sge - (can't help myself ive got the bug - had it for bout 4 years with every car ive owned - have to mod it in some way)
this is an AWESOME site - one of the best ive ever seen
look forward to sharing my ideas and knowledge and learning a whole heap from you guys
some stats on my car:
88 st162 SX Celica 2.0l gen 1 3sge
Totally stock motor for now
3sfe 5 speed gearbox (was done before i got it and only found out last week that it has this - physical inspection only not internal yet - will let u know - but i can tell u from now that at 110km/h in 5th gear it sits on 2600 or 2700 rpm - excellent for fuel hehe )
has lovell lowered springs and monroe shocks in the struts
i have already upgraded my sound system: cd player, kenwood 6x9s (high pass - came with the car so dont rant please), some cheapo 5.25" co-ax up front (also came with car), 2 Cerwin Vega 12" Subs getting 300wrms each - all run off two amps - one 2x150wrms and one 4 x 100wrms - and a 450cca battery - 4 gauge wiring
took me bout 6 hours to install and run this setup
plans are pretty hefty - i think this is enuff from me
cheers
Mick
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:32
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Hey, welcome! Sounds like a bit of a beast you're building there! Any idea why they swapped it for the FE box? Not that it matters, you'll just save money when doing the conversion.
Aust162 - lookin' hot! Got pics of the piping? Now you'll have to move your number plate off the the side ey?
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 09:43
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hey aust162, nice front mount, wat gen 3sgte do u have ?
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Location:
Perth
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April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 17:51
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Nice Front Mount man! good job!
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Location:
Gold Coast, QLD
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April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 08 June 2005 22:56
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Aust162 - good job, looks great! How does it feel to drive now? I do have one question for you - where's the plastic trim under your passenger headlight??
Mick, welcome along mate and welcome also to the joys of ST162 ownership! Sounds like you have some nice little plans in store for your car, looking forward to following that. Post up some pics of your ride if you get the chance.
-Matt
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 00:11
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thanks for the warm welcome
definitely will be taking pics and stuff
here's the plans:
* gen2 3sge from sw20 mr2, gen 2 ECU and loom, with mr2 lsd (picking all this up this weekend) - ive been told motor needs rear main seal (id change it anyway when changing motors), rocker cover gasket, sump gasket and dizzy seal (??? never heard of a dizzy seal before but i dunno - gonna check it out myself)
i will then be adding:
* Custom tuned length 4-2-1 extractors (making myself from mandrel bent 3mm thick mild steel) with flanged collectors
*Cold Air Induction
*Full 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust with Hi Flow Cat and magnaflow straight through muffler (no resonator)
* Daikin Heavy Duty clutch
* Full tune
im doing all the work myself - with some help from my brother at his workshop with sitting the new motor in.
im hoping this goes alright - ETA for completion of entire thing is in one month's time hopefully - cant afford to have it sitting for long (i have another project soaking up my time - 10 sec car hopefully )
and sorry for the ignorance but can i ask how and why it will save me money with the FE gearbox?? - i think u mean its cos of higher gearing so lower revs = less fuel 
anyway - thanx for the support and ill keep you all updated
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Melb, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 01:33
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Thanks for the comments guys
Wombat- nfi where i'm gonna put my number plate atm.right now its back in the standard location, but i'm not happy with it.it blocks SOO much of the intercooler.
Jorrs- its a gen2 out of a sw20 mr2.congrats on the pickup of warrior's car
Matt- everyone asks about the plastic cover. i removed it because i have a CAI pipe running from under there,so in theory its ment to get me more air..
i might put it back on thou,because everyone reckons it looks like i've been in a crash or something.lol
The car spools up quicker with MORE intake noise Little bit more lag, nothing major at all though.
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 01:41
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You'd save money because you wouldn't have to buy another gearbox with the new motor - the original 3SG S53 box can only (safely) be used behind a Gen 1 3SG, but it sounds like you got another gearbox anyway so it doesn't matter! LSD... mmmmm
Are you doing the wiring yourself? I've heard there's a little bit more mucking around getting an MR2 motor going in a celica - things like brackets that are the wrong way around, the pulleys only have 4 teeth as opposed to 5 on the celica... I'm sure you'll nut it out!
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 02:08
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i get ya now - cheers
my plan was to use the gen2 long motor, inlet manifold and injectors\sensors\etc etc, but use my original celica pulleys, brackets, starter motor etc - what other problems do you know of that i may encounter?
im still doing my research on problems to expect or will encounter before even trying to put the motor in so anyone who has done this conversion i would greatly appreciate any help
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Location:
South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 02:26
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Man I can't believe how straight and neat your car is AuST162! Looks awesome, totally unlike my car 
Oh - nice intercooler too I s'pose 
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Location:
Brisane
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:12
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Hi guys,
I don't currently own a st162(sorry!) but i am looking at purchasing one and was wondering what u guys think. I suppose that u guys actually owning them would be the best people to give me some advice. The specs as far as I know are as follows :
-86' Celica sx
-The car is in good condition. It has 360,000 kls on the clock, but has a dropped in imported engine from japan (new motor had 50,000 klms on it) at 300,000. The new engine has only travelled 110,000
-Remote central locking
-car alarm
-immobilizer
-Power steering and mirrors
-17in mags with low profile tyres
-5 speed manual
-Very dark tinted windows
-Lowered
-S/s exhaust (2.25in)
Large cannon muffler
-Extractors
-High flow cat
-Pod filter
-Spotlights
-Very clean interior
-Sports steering wheel
-Sports gear knob and boot cover
-Stereo includes: JVC mp3 player with remote control
-4 x 12in kicker subs in the boot in a pyramid shaped box
-pair of 4in speakers in the front with spilts
-Sony amplifier
-pair of 7x10 speakers in rear tray
Here are some pics :
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The seller is asking for $ 5500.. do you guys think that it is worth it?
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:29
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hi mate
yeah looks well worth it i reckon
i bought my one a few weeks ago (see above)for very very cheap (a third of that asking price there)
but that has a lot of work done to it so would be fair nuff - try get the person down to 5000 - itd be a good deal then
good luck
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:31
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hey piccies don't work for me
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Location:
QLD, Gold Coast
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:32
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sounds abit like my car, good price as well, definately worth it,
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Location:
Brisane
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:45
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sorry the pics dont work.. how do i get them to work?
the pics are only pics of the exterior, ill try and get some of the interior as well. Thanks guys
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Gold Coast, QLD
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April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 04:56
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| sanj wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 14:45 |
sorry the pics dont work.. how do i get them to work?
the pics are only pics of the exterior, ill try and get some of the interior as well. Thanks guys
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You need to host the pics on the web somewhere and put a link to them in your message. I use www.photobucket.com for mine. You aren't able to simply upload them from your hard drive on this forum. Give it a go!
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Location:
Brisane
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 07:52
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thanks matt.
here are the pics guys
Im thinking respray because I personally dont like the colour. I was thinking pearl black... what do you guys think?
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Location:
Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 08:01
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i say throw the standard rear wing on and paint it same colour as the car is at the moment
looks HOT !!
grab it if for 5k
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Location:
Perth
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April 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 08:12
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that's a pretty nice buy i'd say
5k flat is better, but 5.5k is still ok!
I'd be wary of just how many kms the import engine had on it before it was imported. It is legal to wind the speedo back over there >_<
But otherwise, quite a good buy indeed!
Definately get yourself a stock rear wing. and for the colour.. its alrite as it is.. pearl black would be.. unusual...
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Location:
Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 08:54
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$5500 is too high IMO. Keep in mind there's still 360k's on the chassis. Without those mods it'd be worth <$3000 easily. I'd probly pay $4000 max. Obviously somebody has loved this car, and is selling it for a reason. Get it checked out first.
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Brisane
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June 2005
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 10:35
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wow dude im impressed...
what length primary and secondary extractor piping are you using...
using the 3sfe gearbox would be much cheaper for you even more so if i buy the mr2 lsd off you
but im very interested in this project, i added you to msn if thats okay
hopefully talk to you soon
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Canberra
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August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 12:14
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I had no problems with pulleys on the gen 2 motor at all, the biggest mechanical hurdle i encountered was re drilling the holes on the gen 1 flywheel to suit the gen 2 motor bolt pattern.
Mick if you need any info on the gen 2 motor swap gimme a yell, i can do my best to give you any help with anything but wiring, mine runs a microtech and i paid an electrician to install it!
id be interested in there custom extractors youre building it that all goes well!
Aust162, love the front mount!
Cheers
Steve
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 12:26
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Steve! Howyagoin!? Long time no see!
trd3sg - If you need a few pointers on the wiring I can help you out. There's probly someone closer to you that would be able to come around and give you a hand too. It'd be nice to see a few more N/A conversions around! Go the N/A brigade! 
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 12:48
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Hey guys, long time no see. Surely most of you remember my car.
Just letting you know
if you know of anyone who is interested in Buying a ST162 turbo, let me know, or let them know about mine, I have dropped the price as I kinda need the cash, looking for $6000ono. see my sig for details.
Peace out, ooh and Rob we need to catch up oneday been a long time
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 13:40
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| wiso wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 22:48 |
Peace out, ooh and Rob we need to catch up oneday been a long time
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tell me about it.. freaking ages! Gotta make a trip down south me thinks
and btw, Wiso's car is the real deal and a bargain price too! I can't believe it hasn't sold... 
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 13:51
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yeah i reckon Rob,
I am amazed as well, but I really need to get rid of it as I have written my AW11 off and i need the money to buy another AW11... sorry i just love them too much, can never go back to the 162 brigade
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 09 June 2005 15:02
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Wiso ->OMG you killed the AW11 - that sucks big time!
err - how'd it happen?!
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Melb, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 00:59
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Sanj - that car has been trying to sell on ebay for the last month. no one has shown interest becuase its too expensive.
IMHO i would stay away from that car. buy a stock (or mildly modded) one first and then do your thing to it.Its got High Kms and sounds like its been thrashed (loss of license  ) ex-p plater car.
You can get a nice cond,orig low km (under 200k) for anywhere between $3-5.
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 01:27
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| Farmsci ST162 wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 22:14 |
Mick if you need any info on the gen 2 motor swap gimme a yell, i can do my best to give you any help with anything but wiring, mine runs a microtech and i paid an electrician to install it!
id be interested in there custom extractors youre building it that all goes well!
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thanks steve really appreciate it - yeah im at work at the moment but ill speak to ya on msn soon (maybe not this weekend though cos i got exams for uni next week )
and smashed wombat - thanks a lot i may actually required your help mate, ill let you know - cos the wiring is probably the only prick of a job that i can think of - any tips in advance??
cheers
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 10:02
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| RWDboy wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 01:02 |
Wiso ->OMG you killed the AW11 - that sucks big time!
err - how'd it happen?!
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chicks that can't drive pulling out directly in front of you... need I say more, it was her fault
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Brisane
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 14:10
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Thanks for the advice AUST162. Yeah i found about the car through ebay. I think that it is a bit on teh expensive side as well - but i think there is not harm in checking it out - so i plan on just checking it out. If I like it, then im thinking of getting a racq check to make sure that it is in good mechanical condition. I dont think that i will pay more than 5k - maybe i will depends on mechanical condition I suppose.
Thanks for the advice - another point of veiw is always appreciated
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 14:31
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My damn ST162 isn't working proper From what I recall they rev out fairly nicely in 2nd - but mine seems to stumble at 6000rpm...
*sigh*
Damn cars
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 10 June 2005 15:20
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| RWDboy wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 00:31 |
My damn ST162 isn't working proper From what I recall they rev out fairly nicely in 2nd - but mine seems to stumble at 6000rpm...
*sigh*
Damn cars
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just a quick observation, we all know your car has been sitting for quite some time, did you change the fuel and filter?
thought it worth mentioning, it quite easy to overlook the simple things.
Karl
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Sydney NSW
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December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 11 June 2005 00:21
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I know this are has been covered a bit but my 89 celica which I just purchased is having weird fuel economy issues. Full tank BP ultimate only got 366km before warning light came on. The mods on this car are extractors plus 2.25 inch exhaust system stock airfilter. Service is history is good as far as I can tell it's Jorrs ex car. I do only drive short distances though ie 7-8km at a time to work. Still I thought I should get at least 450km at of a tank. I am thinking of changing the 02 Sensor. Any other suggestions?
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 11 June 2005 03:39
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haha - yeah I was thinking about that sort of thing, I hadn't bothered to check what was going on so I was more or less just whingeing
but!
Now the whole not revving out problem is tertiary to the fact that the engine just died BIG time. It picked up the death rattle - looks like my oil pressure gauge wasn't as screwed as I thought - b'oh!
Anyone want my car for $1000? Comes with free curse!
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Canberra
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August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 11 June 2005 04:26
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Wombat, have you finished the Gen3 conversion? Hows it go?
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Melbourne
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South Australia
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 11 June 2005 15:14
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warrior -> haha no there's at least 5 litres of oil in there mate! There are a couple of theories (none of which I cbfed testing) one is that the oil pump died on me - which would be strange as it was fine when I put it back in over 15,000km ago, or alternatively - the oil always seemed to drain to the sump when left sitting around over night, and it would tick for a few seconds when started up after sitting around - my CSI is a bit rooted and it was struggling to start so I had to hold throttle wide open to get it going - maybe hit 2000rpm before I let go of throttle.
It's possible that the bearing picked up then when I started it and it began ye olde death rattle by getting momentarily starved of oil.
Fact of the matter is, I can't afford to fix it or keep the car. So yeah, if anyone wants it for $1000 it still has 3 months rego, I will be putting it in the trader this week. I recommend you tow it
All proceeds will basically go to getting the GT4 running, so I can sell the GT4 and finally be rid of these f*&^ing Celica's. They've cost me about $20,000 to $25,000 over the years and I've only got about 30,000km of driving out of them....to be honest, it's utter bullshit.
I'm pretty shitted off with the 4th gen of Celica atm.
Oh - and the MegaSquirt will DEFINITELY NOT BE happening, I can no longer afford the time or the actual expense of sorting it out - seeing as pretty much all my finances are now utterly f&*%ed I strongly recommend to anyone with a Gen 1 motor to just give up and by the Gen 2 motor and stick that in
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 01:23
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werd 
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 02:35
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well Jorrs just picked up the car. he is driving it back to coffs harbour 
congratulations James, hope it all goes well.
the search now begins for another car, preferably ST162.
Karl (depressed)
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Upper Northshore, Sydney
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 02:58
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sad day karl sad day !!!!!! but its going to a good home !!!!! coffs wont know wat hit it when they see james new car !!!
on the petrol consumption note, pawel, u should really be gettin better consumption than that mate !!!!! especially on ultimate champ !!!!
on regular unleaded from shell i have got 550km outta one tank, that was a fill up of 46.05L or something !! thats not highway driving either, round the streets to and fro uni and wat not, occaisional open up !!!
to prove my fact that these cars have an awesome consumption, i put exactly 10.00L in yesterday, since i have driven 125km and i will still get another 10km or soo before i refuel it at the same place on the gauge as yesterday !!! and that was a cruz to manly !!!
so yeh dude u should get better consumption, as for my recent'st mods, 1988, SX , pod, new leads, plugs, cat back exhaust, new filters throughout, so really and truely you should get more k's outta em
ppl post up your average consumption off one tank and well see !!! but 366km off a whole tank of ultimate >
nick.
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 04:44
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Full tank of vortex driving around suburbs with a lot of stop starts and very short trips i'll get about 450kms easy and thats with giving the car a fair bit of a boot. I also hit empty on the guage with about 10-15 litres left in it which will get me about another 100-120kms depending on driving situations etc. The lowest i've ever actually taken the tank was when i had to fill up with 48.67 litres or something. Id done close to 900kms on it but that was half country roads but opened right up sitting on about 140 most of the way.
Cya
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
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June 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 05:45
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my best was a full tank of synergy 8000...567km's before rebuild, prob around 300km now
someone keeps fucken around with my car on sunday mornings when i park at my cousins place in the city centre.....pissed off and i think i have some idea of who it is..
I'M GONNA KILL THEM!!
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 06:52
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yous do know runnin premium in ur car wont last as long as normal fuel unless ur car is tuned to it...
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Location:
Sydney NSW
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 06:54
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Yeah I am pretty pissed off about the fuel, but to make matters worse I took the car for a 200km drive today first really long trip after my extractors and exhaust been fitted. Like before after 60km of highway driving my idle becomes shit ie 400-500 rpm sounds like it's running on three cylinders. Only happens on long drives. If I switch it off for 5 minutes the idle gets back too normal until I hit the highway again. The car drives fine at highway revs but idles shit when you get off. Could this be the computer? Also I put 20 litres in so far just over 200km but highway nearly empty though.
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 06:58
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thats why unleaded does the trick 99% of the time !!! wanna go out for a nite, put 15 bucks of optimax in , sweet !
thanks for that info tho, how would i go about tuning it for optimax, isnt it all computer ?
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 07:51
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its just timing... just need to advance the timing so it can burn the extra fuel being pushd in.. im no expert on this so the termonolgy wont be 100%. but as i see it optimax etc has more particles if u will in a smaller space so the normal timing cant burn the extra "particles of fuel" so therefore ur wasting the fuel.. advance the timing and u will see a small improvement.
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 07:55
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ive found the colder the air the beter the fuel economy also this might be total bullshit lol but this is just wat ive found ive gone from 280kms out of a full tank.. to 350km out of a full tank this might just be a turbo thing *shrugs*
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 08:29
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hey , yeh i have the same problem with the idling issues !!!!
however i altered the idle RPM (simple adjustment) and changed the aircon adjuster thingi (big yellow thing)
i found this helped regulate the idle, also throw some carby cleaner thro it every now and then !
how would i advance my timing, can it be dun myself > ? or pro, i am new to the major engine mod's bit !!!
nick
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 08:59
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With higher octane fuels, comes a higher flash point, which means petrols such as BP Ultimate have a higher resistance to detonation.
This means the timing can be advanced, causes higher peak pressures and temperatures in the combustion chamber, which in turn increases thermal efficiency, therefore more power out of the fuel.
Using higher octance fuel also means the compression ratio can be increased but this is not easily achieved.
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Location:
Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 12 June 2005 10:46
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| Matt-itude wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 18:59 |
With higher octane fuels, comes a higher flash point, which means petrols such as BP Ultimate have a higher resistance to detonation.
This means the timing can be advanced, causes higher peak pressures and temperatures in the combustion chamber, which in turn increases thermal efficiency, therefore more power out of the fuel.
Using higher octance fuel also means the compression ratio can be increased but this is not easily achieved.
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but as already mentioned, this will not prove any benefit to a motor not REQUIRING the higher octane fuel (from a performance\efficiency perspective)
the higher flashpoint and greater viscosity gives it a slower burn, which is how it eliminates detonation ONLY if timing is advanced more
a motor should be run on the lowest RON fuel possible that allows it to be run without pinging
ie. if ur motor runs say 10:1 compression and runs fine on ULP with 92 RON without any sign of pinging on say 10 degress static advance, then running PULP with 98 RON will not increase performance and may in fact detract from it by burning slower (effectively working to reduce your static advance)
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