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CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 07:44
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Howdy, I'm resonably new to these forums, but i have been poking around a bit before i became a member and i have been a member of ns.com for a fair while now (same user name). Any way i'll cut to the chase so to speak... my current/future project is going to be fitting a CA18 into an AE86. Now i havent started yet ( i havent even got the car, lol), but i have been doing a bit of research, as i want to be prepared before i start this. I figure i am going to need the following parts...
* CA18DET engine/loom/etc. $1000
* RB20DET Gearbox (beacuse its shorter and shifter will be in a better spot) $450
* Engine mounts (thinking of using the ones offered by Anthony Kellam) $330
* Brake Upgrade - any ideas on price, was thining roughly $800 but not really sure
* Custom Tail Shaft - heard murmour around $400, anyone know anything more specific
* Engineers Certificate $500 in victoria
* Suspension (coilovers) - roughly $1000 for now.
Now what im really after, is a bit of info from you guyz/girls that probly know a bit more about this sort of thing than me. I'm planning on doing the conversion myself with the help of a couple of mates, so thus cutting down labour costs. I was wondering what other parts i will need to make this conversion successful (ones i havent found out about), are the prices i have at the moment reasonably accurate and also if anyone of you have the necessary parts lying around i will need!! in particualr im after the tail shaft, else i'll just get a custom one. Apologise for the long post and please dont turn this into a SRvsCA or NissanvsToyota flame war, stick to the topic if you could.
CHeers,
Swordfish, *runs and hides, prepared to get flamed, lol*
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 08:43
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good luck with it should be well worth ti wehn done, there was a guy that has attempted this (didnt finish) its out at a place called "imigrant" its a import workshop, you could look it up and ask him some info. i also believe its forsale if you wanna look into that too. its a purple one with plates saying "THE 86"
i would prefer to see a sr20det into it though (i know what yousaid about it but i still would like to see it with sr)
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October 2004
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Victoria
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 09:14
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yeah thats somethign else im after, what do i need to modify to make the RB box hook up with the CA18... yeah all prices are rough estimates, but for the CA18 $1000 should cover wat im after..
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 09:22
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| swordfish69 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 19:14 |
yeah thats somethign else im after, what do i need to modify to make the RB box hook up with the CA18... yeah all prices are rough estimates, but for the CA18 $1000 should cover wat im after..
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Really? 1k for ca18det+loom+ecu? show me the way!  (They usually go for 1.2k+ just for the engine alone)
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 09:27
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Mate just paid $1300 for CA18DET with Loom/ECU etc. Pretty much everything from a front cut without the panels or car.
And WA is usually much more expensive than over east too.
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 09:53
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 19:27 |
Mate just paid $1300 for CA18DET with Loom/ECU etc. Pretty much everything from a front cut without the panels or car.
And WA is usually much more expensive than over east too.
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Really?
wtf?
not sure how much just jap is profitting in this, but just jap charges 1.3k, sssautomotive charges 1.6k for everything, so i guess it varies alot in prices from where you go
http://justjap.com/engines.htm
http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/pricelist.htm
and from the advertisement in the driftbattle issue 0.6, sss sells it for 1.4k, i'm assuming engine alone.
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 10:06
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| xolent wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 19:53 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 19:27 |
Mate just paid $1300 for CA18DET with Loom/ECU etc. Pretty much everything from a front cut without the panels or car.
And WA is usually much more expensive than over east too.
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Really?
wtf?
not sure how much just jap is profitting in this, but just jap charges 1.3k, sssautomotive charges 1.6k for everything, so i guess it varies alot in prices from where you go
http://justjap.com/engines.htm
http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/pricelist.htm
and from the advertisement in the driftbattle issue 0.6, sss sells it for 1.4k, i'm assuming engine alone.
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sss engines are quality thats why a wee bit more in price
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Location:
Victoria
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 10:27
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i was considering to buy the engine/loom/ecu etc, privately... and dont forget that doesnt inlcude the CA gearbox, as i wont be needing it, and if it does come with it, i'll be selling it off..
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I supported Toymods
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 11:43
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rb20 box with ca bellhousing
considered a diff upgrade/lsd?
cooler?
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 12:33
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mmm, hadnt really thought about the diff, wat sort of lsd do u recommend thats a reasonably easy fit? cooler, yeah organising that aswell, thanx...
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Melbourne, South East
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Mon, 13 June 2005 23:04
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If the sale of my CA18DET falls through from the people interested atm i have mine for $400ono
Although it is just almost a bare block
missing:
coil packs
flywheel
ECU (can get CA18DE reconfigured for a CA18DET at an extra cost)
Turbo (Can be sourced maybe)
it has the 2 manifolds, loom, couple other things
no gearbox
cant think of anything else atm if ur interested PM me
But as i said there are other people who have asked me about this already so yeh, they're first in line but who knows maybe they dont want it
Choony
PS: PM me if interested
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Melbourne, West Suburbs
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April 2005
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 02:57
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Yeah im also doing this conversion, i have seen many CA18dets for sale for under $800 on www.nissansilvia.com
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 03:14
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As a comparison, i bought my CA18DE for $300 with loom, gearbox, etc etc.
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March 2004
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 05:11
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| BOCKA wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 18:43 |
good luck with it should be well worth ti wehn done, there was a guy that has attempted this (didnt finish) its out at a place called "imigrant" its a import workshop, you could look it up and ask him some info. i also believe its forsale if you wanna look into that too. its a purple one with plates saying "THE 86"
i would prefer to see a sr20det into it though (i know what yousaid about it but i still would like to see it with sr)
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Yeah thats mine, engine was mounted in fine etc etc etc was only lil bits to finish it off, just didnt have the time/money to finish it. What youve given yourself for the quotes is pretty good, should be able to do it for that, although dont forget wiring/exhaust either champ
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 08:55
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ahh yes, exhaust very important and i must admit i had forgotten that part... hmmm sounds interesting what you did, would be interested but this is to give me something to do, and i wanna do it myself if u know what i mean@! haha... just interested in the wiring side of it... is the wiring hard to match up, and does anyone know where i can get my hands on a wiring diagram/schematic of the CA18 hooking into the AE86...?? thanx for all the info so far guyz, been really good!!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 09:33
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find wiring diagrams for ca18 and ae86 and start the painful task of wiring
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 09:44
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haha, its going to have to be the way i guess! oh well, i dont mind that sorta thing n e way! lol. what sort of diff do you guyz suggest i run?? cheers
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January 2003
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Tue, 14 June 2005 13:02
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also remember to factor in a couple of hundred for converting the fuel system to EFI.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Tue, 14 June 2005 13:25
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T series minimum w/ lsd of course
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Wed, 15 June 2005 09:12
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| SPRINTAH! wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 23:02 |
also remember to factor in a couple of hundred for converting the fuel system to EFI.
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mmm, hadnt considered that at all (my bad) tell me more please...
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Wed, 15 June 2005 09:28
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| swordfish69 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 19:12 |
... at all (my bad) tell ...
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Gah, why do people insist on using that idiotic expression. It means nothing
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Queensland
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March 2004
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Re: CA in to 86 ( yes i know, its been covered many times before)
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Wed, 15 June 2005 12:15
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| swordfish69 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 18:55 |
ahh yes, exhaust very important and i must admit i had forgotten that part... hmmm sounds interesting what you did, would be interested but this is to give me something to do, and i wanna do it myself if u know what i mean@! haha... just interested in the wiring side of it... is the wiring hard to match up, and does anyone know where i can get my hands on a wiring diagram/schematic of the CA18 hooking into the AE86...?? thanx for all the info so far guyz, been really good!!
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Wiring info for AE86 can be found here http://www.hachilife.com/garage/?manual=elec_03 It contains a lot of useful diagrams there of AE86 stuff. As for the CA try Nissan Silvia forums to find the info needed there..........
Cheers
Ben
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