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THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 18:08 Go to next message
It's a 4.7L V8 Sad

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php ?t=9795
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yuck yuck yuck yuck Sad
I'm going to cry Crying or Very Sad

V8 DOHC 4.7L (borrowed or tuned Lexus engine)
6 speed manual/8 speed auto
How much is an SLK350? It's slightly cheaper.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked 8 speed auto!
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It was saying that Toyota had made a partnership with the Yoo or You F1 team. I've never heard of it. Hmm.. but I have to wake up in 2 hours and my eyes are blurry. Stupid small print. I shall try my best to understand more tomorrow Smile
You should sleep too squall lol
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lol my gf is coming i can't sleep lol
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Fri, 17 June 2005 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thu187 wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 03:58

yuck yuck yuck yuck Sad
I'm going to cry Crying or Very Sad

V8 DOHC 4.7L (borrowed or tuned Lexus engine)
6 speed manual/8 speed auto



So its not a 1JZ/2JZ... who cares, as long as its as fast and as easy to tweak.

You do know that Lexus = Toyota right?
Itll probably be the 3UZ-FE.

And whats wrong with a 6sp manual or 8sp (!!!) auto?

IMHO it doesnt look too bad either.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I hope that is the new supra... fuck thats hot!

and 390ps!! Very Happy

Not to mention the pics of the "2000GT" and "4000GT" Very Happy

[Updated on: Sat, 18 June 2005 00:17]

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M.W.P. wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 05:45

thu187 wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 03:58

yuck yuck yuck yuck Sad
I'm going to cry Crying or Very Sad

V8 DOHC 4.7L (borrowed or tuned Lexus engine)
6 speed manual/8 speed auto



So its not a 1JZ/2JZ... who cares, as long as its as fast and as easy to tweak.

You do know that Lexus = Toyota right?
Itll probably be the 3UZ-FE.

And whats wrong with a 6sp manual or 8sp (!!!) auto?

IMHO it doesnt look too bad either.



Nothing's wrong with a 6sp manual or 8sp auto and I know Lexus = Toyota. Rolling Eyes
It isn't the 3UZ-FE, it's called something else but I can't remember the name/too tired to look.
I don't like it because it's lost its sleekness. IMHO the new designs make it look like a fatty (in a bad way) and in the yellow pic the rear lights look commodore-ish! It will be fast and easy to tweak but there's just something sexy about producing more power with less displacement.

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i like the yellow and red ones

the ones with the close headlights? ARGH
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats gunna be awesome
we all knew it wasnt going to be a turbo
they are just to much of a pita to get past emmisions these days
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got a similar article on the new gtr looks alot better than the last picture nissan released its going to have the 3.2ltr v6 i thinks from memory

edit: does that thing say its going to have an 8 speed auto??

[Updated on: Sat, 18 June 2005 01:26]

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wow if that's the new supra the new supra is awesome!

but that can't be right, 390ps and 1250 kilos?

that's absolutely insane.

not sleek? you must be looking at a different picture.

that'd probably actually be economic too on freeway drives Smile
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In some of those pics the front reminds me so much of the 2000GT (EDIT: it's a 4000GT, makes sense Razz)

Pitty it's a v8, on the flip side though, atleast its not FWD Smile

EDIT: Bah, only VVT-i, where is the L that I desire!!?! Damn imagine the power you could produce from a V8 with vvtl-i Shocked

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm gonna keep calling BS on all the Jap magazine "spy" or "photochop" jobs until I see one at a Motorshow (Japan or otherwise). We've been seeing this stuff "leaked" since 2002.

[Updated on: Sat, 18 June 2005 02:49]

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
umm just to point something out..

this doco has mixed reports on it. look at the pic of the engine top..

4.3L VVTi.. umm.. that looks like a 3UZ to me..
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hamgatan wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 12:35


4.3L VVTi.. umm.. that looks like a 3UZ to me..


The 4.3L (maybe 3UZ) pic is next to the 4000GT.

The Supra pics all have 4.6L next to them.

Does this mean they have come up with an alloy block version of the 2UZ?


[Updated on: Sat, 18 June 2005 06:00]

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awesome Very Happy

Love the V8s

Bring on 8 throttles or Superchargers or Twin Turbo Kits

LOVE IT !
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It would grow on me real quick if I had the money to buy one
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep, ill believe it when i see something more official...

mind you, i don't mind the yellow one, but i don't like the rear end, looks a bit too much like a merc...

call me mad, but, the close-eyed version has finally grown on me... and i like the idea of having a 2000gt and 4000gt model...

and i think the general body shape of the 4000gt looks better than the yellow one, but, i do like the yellow front....

and 390ps... is that equivalent to 390kw or hp? roughly?
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 11:24

i got a similar article on the new gtr looks alot better than the last picture nissan released its going to have the 3.2ltr v6 i thinks from memory

edit: does that thing say its going to have an 8 speed auto??


Can u post up a link? The last pic I saw is the 350z styling with the skyline tail lights still in tact.

I have to admit it's (supra) is really starting to grow on me Embarassed
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't mind it too much, its got a huge chunky body. Whats with the Gallardo wheels though!? They look great on the Lambo's but out of place on the Supra.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is that the finished prodcut? i hope not.... not really a fan of it. i reckon the headlights are real weird. and then the overall shape is off.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that is one sexy ass!
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's set for a 2007 release (also when they were planning to introduce some kind of turbocharged camry/corolla - i guess that'll be the sportivo coupe) so nothing's set in stone.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
umm guys has everyone missed this bit... ?


http://members.iinet.net.au/~toof/supra.png



4uz-GE
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
/me thinks it looks pretty ordinary... atleast in some pics... and damn those tail lights look familiar.... oh wait, VY commodore...

one of the concept sketches looked hot, and the pic of the white one, but some pics were downright ugly... but then again, i wasn't exactly fussed about the 350Z at it's release, but now i want one Razz
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toof wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 20:53

umm guys has everyone missed this bit... ?


http://members.iinet.net.au/~toof/supra.png



4uz-GE


sad thing is, that contradicts the 4.6litre V8 article... the 4uz-ge seems to only be a 4litre....

but, it'd be a sad day toyota stick an "f" series head in their flagship sports car Sad

i'm hoping for the close-eyed one. i like it now, actually.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Evil_Foetus wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 21:28

toof wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 20:53

umm guys has everyone missed this bit... ?


http://members.iinet.net.au/~toof/supra.png



4uz-GE


sad thing is, that contradicts the 4.6litre V8 article... the 4uz-ge seems to only be a 4litre....

but, it'd be a sad day toyota stick an "f" series head in their flagship sports car Sad

i'm hoping for the close-eyed one. i like it now, actually.

That little snippet proves the whole thing is fake.

'G' series heads are dead. Toyota have stopped producing heads with Yamaha. All heads now on will the 'F'



As point out above, I'll believe this when Toyota OFFICIALLY release something.

So can everyone do us all a favour and put their dicks back in their pants No No No
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 00:04


'G' series heads are dead. Toyota have stopped producing heads with Yamaha. All heads now on will the 'F.


So they are not making the 2ZZ-GE's anymore?

I always though the 'G' meant wide angle twincam... not the fact that is was designed by Yamaha.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sat, 18 June 2005 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yer, thas what i thought too...re: the GE heads were wide angle and not neccesarily from yamaha! and yeah..whatabout the 1zz/2zz-ge
none the less, issit just me or does the back have some resemblence of the Monaro!!
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahh its so fake. And yeah, it will be a sad day when Toyota puts a F head in their sports car.

The 2ZZGE is not dead, they have signed a deal with Lotus to supply them for the Elise. They also have emissions passed for them in the US, so why stop using them?

I think Toyota's going to go away from its roots with this car. The Supra has always been an affordable total sports car which will cost to much for any normal person to buy and keep modified.

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Most people know a auto is bigger than a manual...

So an 8 speed auto would be huge, not to mention the cost to overhaul it, if it blows up. I have heard of 6speed merc's but i don't think that an 8 speed is possible unless it has a overdrive at the rear of the case. I.E a normal 4 speed plus rear overdrive equals 8, that would mean a 2 speed reverse.
I think 8 gears is 3 too many in an auto. But we will wait and see.

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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
those little honda jazz things have a 7 speed auto and they are a tiny car
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
very ferrari-esque

still nice, imagine an 8 throttle 4UZGE revving to 8000rpm, nice

390ps is approx 280-290kw+

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 19 inch rims Cool


the jazz had a CVT i thought


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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The back and the side looks brilliant. Bit upset about the front, looks similiar to the MR-S
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daemon wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 11:09

Ahh its so fake. And yeah, it will be a sad day when Toyota puts a F head in their sports car.


So you wouldnt buy it just beacuse it had narrow angle DOHC?

Narrow angle heads can actually be better for performance than wide angle.

It would also be very difficult to fit wide angle DOHC cam heads on a V8.
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i wouldnt buy it becuase i couldnt afford it and it probably wont come to australia, but ittl be nice to jerk off over when i see one in the street, that yellow one is hot!
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tiz nice... Shocked
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Sun, 19 June 2005 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I like it bar the back end on the yellow one, looks a bit like a holden....
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Re: THE NEXT SUPRA!! Mon, 20 June 2005 00:41 Go to previous message
M.W.P. wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 22:48

CrUZsida wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 00:04


'G' series heads are dead. Toyota have stopped producing heads with Yamaha. All heads now on will the 'F.


So they are not making the 2ZZ-GE's anymore?

I always though the 'G' meant wide angle twincam... not the fact that is was designed by Yamaha.

'G' means wide angle yes, but all 'G's were designed by Yamaha.

Obviously they will make more 2ZZ-GE's but the next generation onwards will all be FE heads.

Daemon wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 09:39

The 2ZZGE is not dead, they have signed a deal with Lotus to supply them for the Elise. They also have emissions passed for them in the US, so why stop using them?

Refer to above comment.

Meat_rack wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 10:40

So an 8 speed auto would be huge, not to mention the cost to overhaul it, if it blows up. I have heard of 6speed merc's but i don't think that an 8 speed is possible unless it has a overdrive at the rear of the case.

Nissan have been using 8 speed auto's in the latest Skyline for a few years now.
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