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Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Sun, 05 June 2005 15:52 Go to next message
Hey guys, i was thinking about a diesel conversion for my ta22 in the long run just for something a little different. The 1CD - FTV looks good from the toyota diesel information page, but only was released in finland? So would you guys have any decent ideas for engines i could use? Just thought it would be nice to have a little diesel engine chugging along...

Tot het volgende kier...

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Sun, 05 June 2005 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
isuzu make a deisel engine for their "gemini's", would be a very suitable replacement.

same sorta specs Smile

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what about a hiace motor ?
or turbo diesel from a hilux ?

I don't know anything about either motor i just thought they might be an option
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd check engine weights carefully - i'm pretty sure a hilux diesel would be a chugger courtesy of the excess weight it would bring you.

if you could locate a small (e.g. 2 litre of less) turbo diesel then you'd probably be onto something interesting.

you'd also want to consider gearbox/diff ratios - as the torque curves and rev ranges vary wildly (e.g. my 3litre hilux redlines at just over 4K rpm but an older hilux 2.8 litre will bare get to 2.5k rpm)

novel idea tho, an oil-burning celica that's not got a fucked engine Very Happy

cheers.
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what about the 2.8l 22R diesel (yes-bizare Confused ) hilux engine.

they are in RN85 hilux's. seeing as they are and R engine (?) you could bolt it up to a W5* box.


its got me stuffed why they are a 22R Confused

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wow, diesel, isn't diesel more expensive compared to unleaded petrol and less power too. Diesel engines from toyota that would fit would be 1C-1.8 litre or 2C-2.0 litre available in both NA or turbo, these engines usually comes from the liteace van CM36, corona CT141, carina CA61 and FWD models like the corolla and camry but then you gotta mod a RWD trans but thats fairly straight foreward.

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for your replies, i'm not overly concerned with power, i just want a reliable get around for the city outskirts and highway. I'll be heading the wreckers this week to trawel for suitable candidates. See how it goes...
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
22r diesel wtf, the only 22r's i know are petrol and 2.4l
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
would not buy a toyota diesel engine if you payed me
europeans make the best diesel engines and vw latest range of turbo diesel engines can be remaped to 160+bhp easily
but as for straight diesel engines and for availability
perhaps an import turbo diesel 2 litre from a carina would not be so bad
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 14:14

would not buy a toyota diesel engine if you payed me
europeans make the best diesel engines and vw latest range of turbo diesel engines can be remaped to 160+bhp easily
but as for straight diesel engines and for availability
perhaps an import turbo diesel 2 litre from a carina would not be so bad



i.e. audi or VW 2.0 litre turbo diesel.

just go with the gemi isuzu diesel engine.

unless you can some how afford a 1.9 or 2.0 VW TDi.

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
engines are not expensive
if it is a vw engine u want let me know
my work sell 30+ cars a week to pick and pay less
i doubt if they have any but they might be able to source 1
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bring out the big guns BMW 3.0l inline 6 twin turbo diesel 206kw, 500nm of torque yeah baby, serioulsy why a diesel in a ta22
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corona RT142 wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:00

bring out the big guns BMW 3.0l inline 6 twin turbo diesel 206kw, 500nm of torque yeah baby, serioulsy why a diesel in a ta22

hmmm bmw 330 tds
flyin machine quicker and more torquey than the petrol
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 06 June 2005 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corona RT142 wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 15:38

22r diesel wtf, the only 22r's i know are petrol and 2.4l



yeh it was weird when i first saw it but it definatly was a 22R, 2.8L diesel

it doesnt look like a 22r Confused
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A diesel Celica is an interesting concept (I've wanted to do a performance diesel project for a while now), but if all you want is a reliable economical runabout there are better ways to do it. For example, a stocker 4A-GE is cheap, easy to swap in and very fuel efficient if in good working order.
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brett_celicacoupe wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:09

yeh it was weird when i first saw it but it definatly was a 22R, 2.8L diesel

it doesnt look like a 22r Confused


That's because it wasn't. The 2.8 Hilux diesel is the 3L. The 22R is and always has been a petrol engine.
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 13:26

brett_celicacoupe wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:09

yeh it was weird when i first saw it but it definatly was a 22R, 2.8L diesel

it doesnt look like a 22r Confused


That's because it wasn't. The 2.8 Hilux diesel is the 3L. The 22R is and always has been a petrol engine.




the compliance plate definately had RN85 and 22R
and 2.8L

i saw it with my own eyes
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
22R is a 2.4 and PETROL


I reckon go for a 1KZTE Smile


brett_celicacoupe wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 18:02

Norbie wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 13:26

brett_celicacoupe wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:09

yeh it was weird when i first saw it but it definatly was a 22R, 2.8L diesel

it doesnt look like a 22r Confused


That's because it wasn't. The 2.8 Hilux diesel is the 3L. The 22R is and always has been a petrol engine.




the compliance plate definately had RN85 and 22R
and 2.8L

i saw it with my own eyes

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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brett_celicacoupe wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 18:02

the compliance plate definately had RN85 and 22R
and 2.8L

i saw it with my own eyes

My car says MA61 and 5M-E, but there's a 2JZ-GTE in it. I saw it with my own eyes!
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Tue, 07 June 2005 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Those off shore raving boats use lambo diesel motors Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Wed, 08 June 2005 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 22:42

brett_celicacoupe wrote on Tue, 07 June 2005 18:02

the compliance plate definately had RN85 and 22R
and 2.8L

i saw it with my own eyes

My car says MA61 and 5M-E, but there's a 2JZ-GTE in it. I saw it with my own eyes!



maybe the 5ME just grew 2 turbos one day Razz


come to think of it, it does have a CT20(?) turbo and a blue engineer's plate to go with

it may even have a different engine
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Wed, 08 June 2005 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2544/article.html

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2100/article.html
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Sun, 19 June 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, from what i could see it would be too much work for what i want it to do, have to choose from the petrol camp i think?
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Re: Diesel conversion ideas - TA22 Mon, 20 June 2005 00:19 Go to previous message
4A-GE = teh win. Even a 2T-GEU would be pretty good and is a genuine bolt-in conversion.
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