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1200det
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4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 06:55 Go to next message

Just wondering if anyone has used or read much in regards to the MAGIC Cat converters ?



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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the editor of zoom used one in his 7mgte soarer.. was making i thinks 250rwkw with the standard cat. once fitted with the magic cat they were able to wind more timing into it and made about 280kw atw's from memory...
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what is the catalyst supported by? what catalyst are they using? what is the mesh like? (ie can you see directly thru, or is there a mangled air path (albeit small deviations)?
does it actually do the job of a catalytic converter? (ie light-off time, temp at cruise etc)

more timing? so less boost (ie chamber pressure)? cooler intake temps? cooler combustion temps?

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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The article in Zoom makes them SOUND like a good thing - but who knows what the reality is... Why not call them up, see if they'd be willing to offer some kind of money back gaurantee, and get someone to set it up on a flowbench, maybe in comparison to whatever cat you use now. That way, you'd be more likely to get your money back than if you actually put it on your car, and measured the pressure drop.
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Call Magic and ask what the difference was on the flow bench (it will at least give some idea to the flow difference).

Matt (proprietor of Magic) is well versed in performance and measuring the gains (he does have a 10sec RA23 Celica) and I am sure that he will be able to disseminate any information that you may need in regards to any product that he sells.
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I ended up buying one and ill put it to the test and see how it goes Smile

Guess no-one here has one themselves ?
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wonder if RTA inspection would recognise it as a cat... they might think its just a resonator or somthing.

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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
YelloRolla wrote on Thu, 23 June 2005 19:31

Call Magic and ask what the difference was on the flow bench (it will at least give some idea to the flow difference).

Matt (proprietor of Magic) is well versed in performance and measuring the gains (he does have a 10sec RA23 Celica) and I am sure that he will be able to disseminate any information that you may need in regards to any product that he sells.


they quited the cfm for each different type of cat and a straight 3 inch pipe i thik from memory it was somewhere arround the 750cfm mark whereas a 3" was about 550cfm i thinks

in any case it flowed alot better than a 3" cat aparantly...

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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Thu, 23 June 2005 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I ended up buying a couple and ive got one for sale at $280 + post

4"pipe straight through pipe - 1629cfm
4" MAGIC cat - 750cfm
3" pipe straight through pipe - 1152cfm
3" supercat - 469cfm
3" supercat - 524cfm (revised version)
As written in Zoom.
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Fri, 24 June 2005 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how many people have 4" exhausts?

Are you going to use reducers to connect to the current exhaust?
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Fri, 24 June 2005 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well the older design were cut off at 4 inch pipe although this newer design is actually reduced down to a few mm off 3 inch to allow a direct welding of 3 inch pipe
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Fri, 24 June 2005 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Davey wrote on Fri, 24 June 2005 12:29

how many people have 4" exhausts?

Are you going to use reducers to connect to the current exhaust?

yeah you use a reducer
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Re: 4inch MAGIC Cat ( Anyone used ) Fri, 24 June 2005 05:59 Go to previous message
M.W.P. wrote on Fri, 24 June 2005 04:10

I wonder if RTA inspection would recognise it as a cat... they might think its just a resonator or somthing.





thats easy solved, the epa wave a heat wand undere your exhaust before and after the cat, they will see a vast drop in temp after the cat as the cat retains heat to burn the bad gases.


they dont need to look through it.

have seen the test done.
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