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icon12.gif  Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 12:25 Go to next message
OK!!!!

I know everyone wants to see pictures of Norbie's huge box so here they are Wink

http://everest.fit.qut.edu.au/~n4150414/Car/Online%20Norbies%20V161/tn_DSC01482.JPG
http://everest.fit.qut.edu.au/~n4150414/Car/Online%20Norbies%20V161/tn_DSC01474.JPG
http://everest.fit.qut.edu.au/~n4150414/Car/Online%20Norbies%20V161/tn_DSC01476.JPG
http://everest.fit.qut.edu.au/~n4150414/Car/Online%20Norbies%20V161/tn_DSC01477.JPG


As you can see the thing is MASSIVE!!!! its also got a very chunky input shaft (much course spline than a W5X!). One can also see that norbie is going to have a whole lot of fun getting that thing into a MA61 shell....tho, it does "bolt up" Wink

I'll let norbie come along and brag about his hugeness now Smile

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lead the way my friend.

i need someone to have a go befour I head in the same direction Laughing
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can i ask the stupid question. wat gearbox is that??

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lilcrash wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 08:11

can i ask the stupid question. wat gearbox is that??

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Out of a Lamborghini Diablo!
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
are u serious, thats awesome

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool1 wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 08:29

lilcrash wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 08:11

can i ask the stupid question. wat gearbox is that??

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Out of a Lamborghini Diablo!

hehe no cos the diablo only ever had a five speed, funny that someone actually fell for the joke, pretty sure its a V161 or in other words 6 speed box out of a mark IV supra
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually it's a Getrag V161 6-speed out of a JZA80 Supra. And yes, that's a HUGE bitch. I'll get around to taking some measurements and stuff soon so you can all appreciate how much larger it is than a W58 and how much pain I'm in for getting it in my MA61.

One thing's for sure, I'd have to try pretty hard to break this thing...
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
norbie will you let me touch your box?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think this is more box than you can handle.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Impressive to say the least..


... and only for the cost of 1 leg, a liver, and possibly the left nipple.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noice!

The white nylon rope and black nylon strap are what makes it a significantly stronger box than the Wxx boxes as they tend not to have these Wink

If you do break this you will deserve a kick in the "box" Shocked

What are the ratios like in this compared to the Wxx box you are replacing? I know nutting of teh GETRAG!

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hehe no cos the diablo only ever had a five speed


USELESS FACT #879 Rolling Eyes
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Huge usually = weight... what are the comparative weights? v161 and w58?





ps. looks nice Smile

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
One could go as far as saying its a massif dong.

Oh and it's well heavy!
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I knew it was only a matter of time before you posted in here Wink



These boxes are near impossible to kill, aren't they?


What sort of power would you be having to push before you even made a getrag 6-speed flinch?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Wed, 29 June 2005 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
around abouts

W58 = 35kg
V161 = 55kg
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and power depends hugely on how badly you treat it. there are 1000bhp supras using the stock gbox, to give you an idea.

the ratios are hihgher, meaning norbie has to source a very low ratio f-series (or consider that diff transplant he always talks about, which would probably be harder to fit than this tubby little bitch)
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just put all your pannels on a JZA80 ....easy.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
one broken spleen Smile
I want my box back - Hand delivered, and cleaned Razz

I wonder how quickly this box will get messy, oily, dirty and begin to look like ass......



Doesnt look that much fatter than an R154 - but damn is it TALL!!!

<BEGIN>
WHILE big box doesnt fit
      apply liberal use of the force
      IF oxy + love maker = love
          THEN insert shafts, fix box in desired position
      ELSE continue application of love
ENDWHILE
Relax and enjoy the smooth love at 6 different shaft speeds
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 10:09


<BEGIN>
WHILE big box doesnt fit
      apply liberal use of the force and eat a p00
      IF oxy + love maker = p00
          THEN insert shafts, fix box in desired position and eat a p00
      ELSE continue application of love and eat a p00
ENDWHILE
Relax and enjoy the smooth love at 6 different shaft speeds and eat a p00
<END>



fixed for u
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How much did it cost?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 00:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the going rate is anywhere from $2000-4000 for one of these.

ie - SHITLOADS.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSupra wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 10:08

Just put all your pannels on a JZA80 ....easy.


or
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buy a jza80?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nah it'd be too easy and weigh too much
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
should be good behind your 2JZ!

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bah! You lot sound like my parents: "why don't you just buy a nice new car?"

If you have to ask, you won't understand. Razz

As for weight, it's not as heavy as I was expecting but definitely has a few kilos on a W58.

Witzl is correct, it is a very tall box which is what makes me think a new trans tunnel may be in order. It's one thing to bash the tunnel wider, but how the hell do you make it taller?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 10:09

<BEGIN>
WHILE big box doesnt fit
      apply liberal use of the force
      IF oxy + love maker = love
          THEN insert shafts, fix box in desired position
      ELSE continue application of love
ENDWHILE
Relax and enjoy the smooth love at 6 different shaft speeds
<END>




you forgot to end your if statement Rolling Eyes

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 08:57

the going rate is anywhere from $2000-4000 for one of these.

ie - p00LOADS.


Corrected for rob_RA40
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 10:53

Bah! You lot sound like my parents: "why don't you just buy a nice new car?"

If you have to ask, you won't understand. Razz

As for weight, it's not as heavy as I was expecting but definitely has a few kilos on a W58.

Witzl is correct, it is a very tall box which is what makes me think a new trans tunnel may be in order. It's one thing to bash the tunnel wider, but how the hell do you make it taller?



Hit it harder in an upwards manner with a much bigger hammer !!!!

Nice box BTW. John is a nice bloke !!!!
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, nice enough to get me a set of 280 degree HKS cams as well! Very Happy
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 11:29

Yep, nice enough to get me a set of 280 degree HKS cams as well! Very Happy



Yeah, yeah, yeah hehehe
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you dont usually need an ENDIF statement for an IF-ELSE selection, AFAIK.... you only need endif for a non-repeating IF selection.

I did however forget the THEN!!
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 11:59

Yep, nice enough to get me a set of 280 degree HKS cams as well! Very Happy



I have never even heard of 280's! You trying to make it sound like Blake's 302? Shocked
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Somehow I doubt it will sound like an old-school carby V8, but I reckon it will be plenty angry with those cams.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmmmm

getrag Cool
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hehe Norbie finally got his rags....

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glayben! Cool

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 30 June 2005 12:50

mmmmm

getrag Cool


Damm thats what I was gonna say...
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hot box. Now get it in big boy!
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think it should be christened

"Norbies SUPER DONG"
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its official.






I've got wood
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do u still have the old ma61 shell from when u crashed it, if u did u could use that old tunnel + welding ect ect

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Supra 6 Speed V160 Ratio's
1st - 3.827:1
2nd - 2.360:1
3rd - 1.685:1
4th - 1.312:1
5th - 1.000:1
6th - 0.793:1

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Getrag used in the Supra is the Getrag 233, 6 speed gearbox, which is made by Getrag in Germany .
Type - 233
Torque capacity - to 490 NM (361 ft/lb)
Centre distance - 85mm
Weight - 51.0 kg
Factory - Nissan GTR 6 spd, Toyota Supra NA 6 spd, Toyota Supra TT 6 spd
Gears - V160 (3.827,2.360,1.685,1.312,1.000,0.793, Rev 3.280) - May 1993 to May 1996
Gears - V161 (3.724,2.246,1.541,1.205,1.000,0.818, Rev 3.192) - June 1996 to July 2002
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
would of thought the torque capacity would be higher, wouldn't take many mods on a 2jzgte to be well and truly passed that Very Happy
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yours is bigger than mine Crying or Very Sad

http://img173.echo.cx/img173/2223/gearbox2xt.jpg

I wish I had one as sexy as that.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They are a nice box, enjoy it Very Happy , no short shifter required either as the throws are next to nothing anyway Smile
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Thu, 30 June 2005 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
now, here is a big huge dong WITH a box...

http://www.witzl.com/wst/dong-box.jpg
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Pic no workie...
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Going to assume it was this:

http://www.witzl.com/wst/wst-034.jpg

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and you said Josh's He-Man t-shirt was gay
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Laughing

Air guitar with a munted gearset... it must have been late.
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draven wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 11:42

and you said Josh's He-Man t-shirt was gay


Difference is that shirt is now well and truly black, worn once and binned, oh and it was free from work, i didn't go out of my way to buy the ghey shirt.

and yes it was 4am and i had already read the w58 rebuild manual's.


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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The torque rating is clearly not simply engine torque or there would be shattered getrags all over the place. The rating is some kind of industry standard and i would be very interested to hear from anyone who actually knows what it means in practical terms.

One of the reasons i went with the Tremec as opposed to the Getrag for the TTV8 was that rating, although in hindsight it may have been enough. The Tremec is rated at 600ftlbs though so nearly twice as strong for a similar size and a much nicer shift.

The holden/ford T56 6 speeds (also made by Tremec) are rated around 300-350 ftlbs but the double overdrive seems a complete waste of time to me.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks for that yeah kinda wondering i know the old five speed for the Xr6 turbo is rated at 450nm or what it produced stock.
Anyone wanna convert those figures into metric, cos as far as i know the T56 was rated at 600-650nm and just wanna know if thats right.
the TKO box you've gone for sounds pretty impressive if you broke that you'd have problems which i doubt you will. Very Happy
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 04:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DAMMIT - where did i upload that other file to!?!?
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If i break the TKO600 there will be tears Smile

More likely a driveshaft will go 1st.

I got the T56 numbers from the Tremec spec sheets off their web site.

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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you break that box I will extremely impressed personally send my congratulations. And also express my sympathy for the repair bill. Wink

This thread seems to have turned into a "my box is bigger than yours" contest. I'm just waiting for someone with a LandCruiser to show up and intimidate us all.
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Re: Norbie has a big, huge DONG of a box ;) Fri, 01 July 2005 06:06 Go to previous message
Sadly my TKO600 is classed by Tremec as 'light duty'....their medium to heavy duty boxes make anything in a car look like it belongs in a Hot Wheels toy Smile
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