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I supported Toymods
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note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 04:28
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I just found out the hard way - although fitting in bigger speakers is easy, getting the back seats to lock into position with said big speakers there is next to impossible. so before you go out spending hundreds of dollars on rear speakers, consider how little room there is to play with back there, and you won't end up crying like me.
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 06:16
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muhhaha
i got some 5x7's in the factory location with some creative bracketeering.
You can't go any bigger than that.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 06:22
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Been there done that 
Cheers
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I supported Toymods
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 06:47
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I have 6" rounds, and it is not going to be fun trying to get them to fit 
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 06:48
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| draven wrote on Sat, 09 July 2005 16:47 |
I have 6" rounds, and it is not going to be fun trying to get them to fit
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they wont
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I supported Toymods
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 06:53
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shush
they sound so much better than any of the over-round speakers the shop had
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 07:00
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I got my 6x9's in.
Had to fab up brackets, and the seats only just fit in... but they do fit.
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Adeliade
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February 2005
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 10:50
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time to learn from the pro boys. 
i do car audio installs and in my 84 celica i got JBL to seld me some factory size 4x6's that cost me $110 and nothing sounds any better then those things with my 10 inch sub, clarity a plus+++++++.
so look them up they fit perfectly and cant even tell they are there from looking at the speaker holding.
if you are in adeliade i can show you where to get them and have a listen to my car to prove how nice they sound.
cheers
matt
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I Supported Toymods
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melbourne.vic.au
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May 2002
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Adeliade
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February 2005
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:13
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ill take a pic tomorrow when there is some light lol.
but yeah i wouldnt go with pioneer well at least stuff that is below $200 from them because they have become real slack with there build quality for their lower range products.
EG: i had a friend come to me with a full pioneer kit he paid $1099 from tonkins i had to replace the front and rear speakers and we put a kicker sub in because the sub shorted and all the speakers just gave up within a week of eachother oh i put in alpine 2 way 6" speakers in the back and Cadence 4" 2 ways in the front and now his 1990 lancer is the bomb .
but if anyone in adelaide wants a stereo that goes really hard for under the insurance limit $500 mark then let me know.
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:16
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As you can see, Rockford 6x9's fit... but it's cosy.
And took me most of one day to fab up the brackets.
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:22
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but the good thing about mine is that you cant even tell that they are there so your not going to attract dick heads attention with these nice speakers sitting next to the window and you dont have to sit there for the day modyfing brackets to get them in straight bolt in  and sound just as nice as rockfords.
cheers
matt
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:25
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Well I never park any of my cars out of eyesite from habit.
And she spends every night locked, alarmed, behind 2 double-locked doors in a garage... with a dog. Mechanic puppeh is actually getting to a threatening size now too
I have a nice boring Barina for a shopping trolley when I need it, so I don't mind my car looking good.
As for sound quality, that's all purely personal so there's not much point discussing it. All I can say is that I spent several days doing nothing but listening to different speaker setups, and every set of 4x6's that I listened to lacked punch in the midrange... including JBL's. And medium-low frequency was a total non-event. The sub will carry the low range definitely, but when you're going from a 4x6 to a sub, you'll have a bit of a gap there in the mid-low range, and I clearly heard that when I was testing. There was pretty much no difference between the 6x9's & the straight 6 inch speakers, but as soon as you dropped down to a 5 or 4 inch speaker, you straight away heard some of the mid-low range drop off... and this was with a sub running constantly throughout the testing.
Draven will back me up on this too - he was with me for one of the days I was testing speakers at lifestyle. Between 6's & 6x9's there was pretty much no difference, but as soon as you went smaller than a 6 you could hear it drop off.
[Updated on: Sat, 09 July 2005 11:36]
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Hobart, TAS
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:28
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I think im going to have to go to my local JBL shop and get me some of these speakers your talking about. I was going to make my own parcel shelf and mount 6*9's in that but if these bolt straight in, that saves me all the trouble!
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 11:34
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so in other words it is alot easier just to get the JBL's lol.
but yeah if you go to your JBL dealer they should have them i got last years model so they may have an updated model but i think the will be the same.
when i take some pics tomorrow i will write down the model name for you aswell.
but put it like this my fuse for the sub went once and it took me about 5 mins to realise thats how nice they sound.
cheers
matt
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Hobart, TAS
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 12:06
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Cheers mate, that'll help with the model name
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 12:29
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i dont know how they would lack mid range becasue that is what they are made for and of course the split is for trebble but i think the mid is there as i hear the lyrics quite clearly on hip hop songs lol you must have been listning to cheap ones because mine sound perfect but if you wanna start talking good speakers my fronts are 6 inch splits from kenwood that cost about $389 and i dont think personally they are as good as the JBL when i pump up a really good song take josh abrahams original addicted to bass what is a classic for crusin with lol.
that sounds better in the back then in the front.
and all 6 speakers are running of my mosfet kenwood 200watt head unit the KDC2023.
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 12:38
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So what you're saying is you can't hear the difference between a a good set of 4x6's and a good set of 6x9's?
Cause if that's true then you need to get your ears checked 
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 13:01
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Rear speakers in a car are fairly pointless; rear fill only IMO. How often do you have rear passenegrs and need them to hear music?
Don't do what the previous owner of my car did and hack up the sheetmetal to mount 6x9s. I wouldn't bother. Just get some decent front speakers. Another point is that there are arguments against oval speakers in general, but I won't get into that
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 14:45
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I'd agree with that. If you want the purest sound, oval is not the way to go.
Then again, the car is hardly the ideal listening environment either; search for the perfect sound, then surround it with glass, add obstacles, and put a constant 60dB drone over everything
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sat, 09 July 2005 15:21
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Don't forget to get a massive fan and run that at full ball also 
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Adelaide
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January 2005
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sun, 10 July 2005 04:38
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hey
those jbl's do they distort when you max the deck out? i'm looking for something in the rear as background but good enough that they wont distort at high volume. oh and they must be clear too. that'll complete my system.
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Re: note to all ma61 owners considering rear speaker upgrades
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Sun, 10 July 2005 05:35
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make a rear parcel shelf like mine and you can even have a sub then If someoen hosts pics for me i will take some for people. My shelf houses a pair of JBL 6x9s and a 12" enclosed sub
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