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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 03:25
 
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Nice one mate!
Looking good.
Care to share somedetails on the engine/turbo?
Doing the same thing and am quite interested in what you have done!
Jezza
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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September 2002
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 06:54
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are you from the shire? looks very similair to one i seen in the area
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 07:03
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nope.
how long ago did you see my car in the shire??
i bought the car about 1.5 years ago from a guy in the shire.. 
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 07:59
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yeah i got the loom apart atm just to move things around.
with the rwd manifold.
i am using throttle body of a fwd bigport manifold so that should work correctly.
the TPS has the correct plug on it to use the GZE loom.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 08:28
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interesting im hoping the tps on my n/a manifold will be the correct plug for the 4agze
have you hpc coated your manifold??
if you did where did you get it done at and how much it cost you??
i need to get my manifold and dump pipe re-coated
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 09:25
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nah i havnt had anything coated but i would like to so if you do find details let me know.
i have been told in the past that you can have it done in
SA...?!?!
this sounds a little wierd, i'm sure places in sydney can do it??
let me know once you get it done?
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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September 2002
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 09:47
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yep it was probably it, was during my tafe days so yea could of been back then 
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 10:31
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| ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 19:25 |
nah i havnt had anything coated but i would like to so if you do find details let me know.
i have been told in the past that you can have it done in
SA...?!?!
this sounds a little wierd, i'm sure places in sydney can do it??
let me know once you get it done?
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will do i cant rember where fatmr2 got his coated it was something like race coatings or performance coatings ill have to ask..
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 10:39
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well ive been told that liverpool exhaust get theres done in moorebank somewhere so when i have the time il try to find out and get prices and stuff as well
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 20 June 2005 11:01
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itd be interesting to see how much it actually reduces heat compared to exhaust wrap
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 21 June 2005 08:07
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| ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 20:39 |
well ive been told that liverpool exhaust get theres done in moorebank somewhere so when i have the time il try to find out and get prices and stuff as well
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there are a few places, but the general rumour is that HPC does the best job.. need to send it down to Vic to have it done tho. (there was going to be an agent in QLD, but none in NSW yet?) this my unfounded compilation of other's experiences tho
i'd love to get my hands on some and analyse to see what it is, how thick etc... but i cbf
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Sydney
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October 2003
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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 21 June 2005 14:43
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wow dave 330 dosent sound too bad for all that altho 300 would be better ofcourse
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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 08:14
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tell me about it im up for rego next month so new tyres aswell probably cost me over 1k
i think the credit card is gonna get a workout....
then its off to get my i/c installed and ems 8860 
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 08:50
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nice
where you getting that done??
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 08:53
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rigoli's
fitted and tuned for 2.5k
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 08:55
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thats not bad,
how many outputs do you have on that??
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 09:04
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heaps
8 customizable outputs used for controlling thermo fans, Idle controls, variable cams, fuel pumps, Boost Control, Variable water spray, etc.
8 Injector outputs with 4 to 1 peak and hold current control.
8 Ignition outputs (Current software release allows for 4)
7 Dedicated Analog inputs Water Temp, Air Temp, Lambda 1, Lambda 2, Throttle position, Manifold pressure and Battery volts.
9 User Definable Analog inputs for normal temp sensors, Pyro/exhaust temp sensors, Suspension measuring sensors, G sensors, air flow meters, etc
Stepper motor control (Available in next software release)
there you go thats from the ems website
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 09:06
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 HOLY SH!T!!!
thats impressive!!
only $2.5K installed and tuned?? sound cheap
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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 14:27
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yeah sounds good and its quite cheap for what it has
from what i can gather on paper its the poor mans motec but ill let you know how good they are in a couple of months
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 22 June 2005 14:29
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| ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Wed, 22 June 2005 19:06 |
HOLY SH!T!!!
thats impressive!!
only $2.5K installed and tuned?? sound cheap
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thats what rigoli quoted me riccols quoted $2.7K but im more inclined to go with rigoli as i reckon they have the runs on the board
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Thu, 23 June 2005 05:00
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yeah i spose they do, as long as they take as much care and attention with your car as they do with their own cars...
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Thu, 23 June 2005 05:15
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yeah thats true...
the 8860 is supposed to use most of the factory sensors and ill be getting it installed with the s/c first then tuned again with the turbo....
ill let you know how they are once its done 
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Thu, 23 June 2005 08:21
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thanks,
thatd be good, i am interested in how it goes.
i was always just going to use a haltech e6k.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Thu, 23 June 2005 14:20
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haltechs are good dont think youl have any problems with it
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 07:31
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well i almost have the 4agte going..
got all my oil and water linees right,
intercooler pipes done, very tight and short!
just have to re-mount the remote thermostat, anyone else running the remote housing with a high mount turbo?? im having a small problem with fitting it in..
although i do have a solution, i dont think it's very good.
can anyone post pics of where they have theirs mounted??
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 11:37
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Huh? Where do you have it mounted now? I thought it would always be on the inlet side, so nothing to do with the turbo mounting.
Cheers
Phil
BTW: What spec GT28RS did you get? The bigger 56 trim compressor?
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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 11:53
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| ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Sun, 26 June 2005 17:31 |
well i almost have the 4agte going..
got all my oil and water linees right,
intercooler pipes done, very tight and short!
just have to re-mount the remote thermostat, anyone else running the remote housing with a high mount turbo?? im having a small problem with fitting it in..
although i do have a solution, i dont think it's very good.
can anyone post pics of where they have theirs mounted??
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pics!!!!!!
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 21:04
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il takes some pics this afternoon.
but with the gze it was always on the exhaust side so thats how all my lines are already setup.
i guess because there was more room on the exhaust side compared to the inlet side with the gze,
il post a pic of how it was with the gze and how it is atm. when i get home from work, later. 
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 21:56
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tasty its rated at pretty much the same hp as my gt 2535
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sun, 26 June 2005 23:08
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awsome!!
wouldnt mind the GT2540 for the strip..
but maybe a bit laggy i think,
TE72_Turbo, is your car running yet?? what do you think about the drivability??
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 27 June 2005 09:48
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oh ok no worries..
i got the turbo from GCG, see link up there, thats the site.
have a look around..
i dont know but i think their prices my be a little more than hp in a box.. maybe..
i got the turbo and heaps of other crap that i needed for $1400 when trading in another POS turbo... which is good but i also had an inside contact...hehe
why you having second thoughts?? what you thinking??
p.s. il get those pics up now..
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 27 June 2005 11:45
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This is how the remote thermostat is plumbed in mine, on the intake side:
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February 2003
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:13
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i'll bite 
fuel line is in the way in the pic, but mine is same as TE72_turbo's - on the inlet side
ps. turbo conversion coming along well!
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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 27 June 2005 15:06
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i cant quite make out how much room you have but my thoughts are to make a custom air box inclosure behind the right hand side headlight sealed against the bodywork with some ducting from the front bumper somewhere you could have the afm mounted straight onto the turbo and then a 90 deg bend to the airbox.
also looking at the size of your snout the afm may well be a restriction they are quite small in diameter.
you just have to make sure the afm is mounted in a way so that the flap inside dosent get held shut by gravity because it wont start
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Mon, 27 June 2005 22:48
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hey,
they way of mounting the thermostat on the inlet side looks heaps neater!!
with the air flow meter problem.. i still have no idea, i mounted the meter straight on the turbo but it has barely any room in front of it for anything..
il work it out..
and the dump pipe is being made up this week, so next week it will be started..
but then i gotta wait until the end of July to get rego, damn monthly pay 
hahaha
thanks guys
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 08:12
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but then i gotta wait until the end of July to get rego, damn monthly pay
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Thats what credit cards are for
Definately go the thermostat on the inlet side, its heaps neater, and away from all the heat of the turbo, manifold & dump pipe!
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 08:18
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| ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Tue, 28 June 2005 08:48 |
hey,
they way of mounting the thermostat on the inlet side looks heaps neater!!
with the air flow meter problem.. i still have no idea, i mounted the meter straight on the turbo but it has barely any room in front of it for anything..
il work it out..
and the dump pipe is being made up this week, so next week it will be started..
but then i gotta wait until the end of July to get rego, damn monthly pay
hahaha
thanks guys
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another way to do might be 2 create a pipe that has a 90deg right bend comming off the turbo then the pipe would go infront of the engine to the inlet side of the engine bay where you could locate your pod filter.. somewhere along the way you could mount the afm. you might have to extend the wires for the loom to stretch further away
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Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 09:22
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Looking good James.
I reckon moving the thermostat to the intake side is a good idea. Would be neater and away from the hot turbo.
Are they the GZE headers you mentioned?
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 12:05
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ok,
yeah i have decided moving the thermostat is DEFINATLY the best idea.
absolutley no room for it on the exhaust side,
so next question is how did everyong run the bottom radiator hose?? along in front of the engine??
i have the standard radiator tanks so the bottom pipe come out on the exhaust side.
and i notice that the tube coming off the back of the water pump has been shortened, this is better? more space?? and the water lines i have should be long enough to still get to the turbo, they were actualy too long keeping the thermostat where it is.
also i think for now, because i have already modified the loom to go have the air flow meter on the exhaust side, i will be putting some fine filter over the air meter intake, in my ming this shouldnt make any difference on air intake. will be a temp solution until i get aftermarket ecu.
and so after i move the water lines i'm done.
cant wait to drive it!
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 12:27
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hmm,
thinking about it like that, it would be a lot neater.. 
my bad,
ahh this may seem bad, but i dont know where the coolant drain is, is it the vent fitting to the right of the oil pressure sendor??
that would make the water feed sooo easy!!
umm brass can be soldered to brass, yes??
because i already have 1/4" brass fittings and braided line, whick i got from work.
so if the coolant drain is what i'm thinking of, i get one line shortened run this line straight to turbo, then the other one straight to the top of the radiator. easy as piss.
ahh if only i had another parson 4AGTE to look at when i work on my car..
hahaha
thanks heaps Phil!!
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 12:51
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All too easy mate.
Yep, its the brass fitting immediately to the right of the oil pressure sender.
Your radiator shop should have all manner of different fittings suitable for soldering onto your radiator tanks. They use them all the time for transmission coolers, aircon, etc. When you say you have 1/4 inch brass fittings, are you referring to 1/4 inch thread (which is not actually 1/4" diameter at all), or 1/4 inch hose fitting? If its the hose size, then thats pretty small 
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Tue, 28 June 2005 20:57
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yeah 1/4" thread.
thanks Phil
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 06 July 2005 08:35
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ok, update.
i have had the radiator outlet modified,
and i have completly moved the thermostat to the inlet side under the alternater, (whick i also moved to the inlet side)
and i also had the water return from the turbo plumbed into the top of the radiator,
and i have tidied my loom up now just gotta finish it off.
tomorow i am bolting everything back on ready to go to the exhaust shop.
so everything seems to be going along well, and i'm getting the exhaust done next week, and will have it back on the road when i get my rego paid on the 20th of this month.
thanks
James
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Wed, 06 July 2005 08:40
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sounds promising keep us updated
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Re: -update- *PICS* of my dummy fit 4AGTE
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Sat, 16 July 2005 10:04
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hey all,
didnt have very good day today as i expected to....
today was supposed to be the finish of the 4AGTE conversion but as is to be expected more problems arised!!!!
main problem:
stuffed starter motor/solenoid, so i cant start it any way..
other problems:
1) forgot to tighten nuts on back of water pump - fixed within a few minutes
2) forgot to tighten clamp on heater hose - fixed within a few seconds
these two issues resulted in a little bit of lost coolant and a little mess.
3) fuel pump wasnt coming on - jumpered pump to 12v and proved it still works, have to rewire properly. to it tomorrow.
4) while trying to bridge starter/solenoid to test shorted 12v to braided water line, reuslting in arcing and a stuffed water line, therefore removing the option of a clutch start.
on a good note the dump does look good. and it only cost $150 very nice job, thankyou WEST SIDE EXHAUST, will be going back there to get whole exhaust done.
so tomorrow i will be heading to repco to get new starter motor, and then cleaning up wires and interior to make everything nice and neat.
then monday i will be heading to mechanic for pink slip check at 11am this is after replacing broken water line and lost coolant.
then on wednesday i will pay for greenslip and rego at RTA then its back on the road!! yay!!!
will post in members rides with pics of everything once its all done!
thanks
James
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