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ShiRi
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Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 09 September 2004 23:18 Go to next message
Recently installed my new t-18 into the back of the car but there was a slight problem. It didn't have brackets for the swaybar, causing me to take the swaybar and put it in the boot lol...

i came to the conclusion last night with a bunch of trd-spec fellows that this is causing my car to very easily lose traction and feel as if my car is sliding even when im not turning...

now, problem is, what is the best way to reinstall the sway bar? i really dun wanna take the diff back out and weld the swaybar brackets on (i will if no other choice)

has anyone had this experience and how did u solve this problem?

also trd-spec peeps claimed that my speedo will be out of wack, will an auto electrian fix this up?

cheers for the help
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 09 September 2004 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Getting the mounts welded back on while the diff is in the car shouldn't be a problem. Just take it to someone who can weld.

The speedo will only be out if the ratio of the diff is different from original. There are companys that make devices to alter the speedo. There was one around seven hills but can't remember the name now..
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Fri, 10 September 2004 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
none of my t18 diffs have had mounts, the sway bars just been put on with big u bolts, seems to work fine!
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Fri, 10 September 2004 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
did you drill them on? is that safe to do?
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Fri, 10 September 2004 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nah i didnt do anything, the later t-18 diffs came factory with sway bars
looks like a neat mount, i have no comparison of a 86 diff though
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sat, 11 September 2004 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its an early diff with a 4.1 ratio. Rather than the S series 3.9.
Someone else can do the calculations on that change

As for the mounts, just take an angle grinder to the old diff and then weld them onto the new one.
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sat, 11 September 2004 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep weld the swaybar mounts on, straight forward job for a competent welder.

dont drill anything!

also i would have thought no swaybar would increase bodyroll but not decrease traction?
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sat, 11 September 2004 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll cut the mounts off your old S-series and give them back. Then you can weld them back on.

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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
He is talking about cornering traction, not straight line. I.e. when you go around a corner you get more body roll and wheel lift, therefore less traction (effectively)
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
your speedo will be out only by a little bit
dont worry bout it, but wait, your in VIC

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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anyone know where to get u bolts long enough? i tried bunnnings but all their washers didn't reach once i put it on the diff...


any other suggestsion on how to attach the swaybar?
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
U should weld the sway bar mounts on. It'll be much stiffer. I know of people who had this problem; whatever you do, do not use hoseclamps, they are ineffective Razz
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Jab what?!!?!
Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Latter T18s axles with the sway mount already on them?
Which year/model Australian car can we rip apart for them?

Attchacing disc brakes too it by welding a bracket for the caliper? Whats the best or some most common brake types used? FC3S?

And what is the diff ratio?
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shiri just get the mounts welded on
u bolts will never be as safe as the stock mounts welded on.

the fc3s brakes and commonly used for the front,

diff ratios are 3.9 and 4.1 i think
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no_tofu_speed wrote on Sun, 12 September 2004 20:09

Latter T18s axles with the sway mount already on them?
Which year/model Australian car can we rip apart for them?


Later model T-18s Wink

I know where theres 2 in vic but the wreckers want a mint for em

[Updated on: Sun, 12 September 2004 12:07]

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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Sun, 12 September 2004 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ae95 wrote on Sun, 12 September 2004 20:26


diff ratios are 3.9 and 4.1 i think


The standard early T series diff ratio is 3.7 and the S series is a 3.9.
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 30 September 2004 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bump

ok so the early model ratio is 3.7 is the letter one different

also what disk brakes can be easily put on i mean bigger than the jap spec ones. i heard corona ones?

also which centre is it zenki of kouki

YES ive searched nothing came up
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 30 September 2004 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
theres a tech article on a disk upgrade

isnt the t-18 diff same housing as ra23

so then the article would apply to t-18 diff to being a t series diff
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 30 September 2004 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zenki is early kouki is late
so u need a zenki for a t18 diff
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 30 September 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think i got a T-18 earlier rear end as it doesnt have any swaybar mount on it...i wanna change the ratio of it....this can be done by searching for a TA22 diff and swap the gears over??

is TA22 ratio 4.1?
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Thu, 30 September 2004 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4ageeza wrote on Sun, 12 September 2004 19:30

U should weld the sway bar mounts on. It'll be much stiffer. I know of people who had this problem; whatever you do, do not use hoseclamps, they are ineffective Razz



suuuure they are Wink
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message


Hey guys..

sorry to dig up an old thread... but just want to know if its true that when doing this conversion the t-18 handbrake cables need to be taken out and replaced with the sprinter ones coz they're too short???

or sumthing along those lines??

just that my car's at the diff mechanic and i wanna suggest that if there's any problems,

thanks.
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you use the t18 hand brake cables and swap the single cable for a t18 one
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message


Confused

erm i'm confused...

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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I left original hand brake cables in the car....eg. S series h/b cables
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the "Hand brake cables" consist of 3 cables, front (from the handbrake lever to about a foot down the transmission tunnel) and right and left (from the front cable to each wheel)

You will need to use the T18 right and left cables, and probably the centre cable as well, so you can get correct adjustment. This is what I did, but I did a JDM AE86 T series diff swap. I've never done a T18 swap, but i assume it is similar.
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hehe what an old thread...

problem solved was welding on the s-series swaybar mounts to anyone that was interested

i just used my t-18 handbrake cables

shiri
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Re: Early T-18 diff in AE86 Wed, 20 July 2005 11:20 Go to previous message
Another alternative is the U bolts; the Whiteline rear stabiliser bar package for TA22 includes some hardcore U bolts as TA22 did not include rear stabiliser from factory.

Maybe Whiteline will sell those brackets seperately, they shold be perfect?
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