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Eastern Melbourne
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January 2005
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Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 11:40
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its strange that it seems to be almost unheardof to boost a 3TC here in australia, while in USA they have sprinters with 3tc's in them on nos and turbo, running in the 9s and less!! there was even one in the 7s! what the hell!?
If these engines are capable of so much why dont they get modded much at all here?
here is a link with a wild 3tc, i'll chase up some more...
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/568152/2
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Location:
Perth
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July 2004
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 12:10
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yeah, the yanks love these engines.
there is alot of aftermarket for them over there.
http://toyota3tc.com/forum/
some crazy figures from these guys..
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 12:16
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It's mostly the Puerto Ricans who play with these things. The 3T in stock form is nothing special at all, but they have two things going for them: they're cheap, and they're built like a brick shithouse. This means you can run them on methanol and pump a trillion pounds of boost into them and they somehow hold together while running a 7. Don't expect to get anywhere near that level of performance with a street-oriented engine though.
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 12:21
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americans don't get the GZE 
did they even get the 4AG?
but they did get shitpiles of truck T and R motors... cheap to replace..
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 14:51
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That engine bay almost looks alright... it's just interesting to see the carbs, the stock-looking dizzy, and the size of the radiator!
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u.s.a. south
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April 2004
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Wed, 20 July 2005 17:39
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We boost anything in the u.s. They all go fast.... as anything else.
Don't seem like folks your way like to "gamble" on any powerplant outside of the mainstream.... trust me, it pays.
For instance, our s13s come with the 'crappy ka24 2.4L truck motor'. When boosted, it pounds the 5hit outta the 'overrated' sr20.
We got the gze (aw11 only) and lotsa 4ag
yep, its the puerto ricans that master the 3t and the rotary. Thank goodness they're not backed with mega $$$$ like the 2jz drag racing teams.... there's no telling where that 'little' 3t will end up then.
There are some 10sec street 3TC corollas and kp61 starlets about. A couple rollas even on street tires. Dunno if ya wanna go faster than that.
Most items on turbo injected 3Ts are custom jobs, and can get costly if you don't fab your own stuff. Easier and cheaper to get 12s from a turbo 4ag rolla if thats all you're after
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Location:
Edmonton, AB
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June 2005
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 00:13
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Despite what the north Americans seem to think, we didn't get the 2T-G or 18R-G here either. We also didn't get the 1G or 1JZ or 2JZ. They're all second-hand imports from Japan, but that doesn't stop people around here from playing with them! Seems a bit strange to suggest we don't like to "gamble on any powerplant outside of the mainstream". 
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Location:
Townsville
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February 2005
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 01:14
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I think it seems quite the other way, I have seen a lot of odd stuff around the place. A lot of the american forums I visit it seems that a lot of them want bolt ons and arent interested in doing anything one off or custom. I know for my non-toyota car a lot of the stuff is one off fabricated here and sent to the states, because no one there will give it a go.
Ka24's are a bit of a waste of time for us, seeing as they only came in bluebirds and pintara's, both front wheel drive. I dont think anyone would bother importing a 240sx.
Im just glad 3tc's are pretty indestructable after what we have out ours through  , and its not even boosted.
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Location:
Finland
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November 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 13:08
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Despite what the north Americans seem to think, we didn't get the 2T-G or 18R-G here either. We also didn't get the 1G or 1JZ or 2JZ. They're all second-hand imports from Japan,
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Same thing here in Europe, but you Australians seem to have proper engine importers unlike here. Here engines like you mentioned are really expensive and hard to get.
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 13:52
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 00:51 |
That engine bay almost looks alright... it's just interesting to see the carbs, the stock-looking dizzy, and the size of the radiator!
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what?? there's an engine in that sweet ke15/17 sprinter???
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 13:55
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| Jayem wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 23:08 |
Same thing here in Europe, but you Australians seem to have proper engine importers unlike here. Here engines like you mentioned are really expensive and hard to get.
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yar we do ok,, although NZ gets the best of both worlds.. engines AND cars..
so far japan doesn't seem that car crazy.. maybe i'm too far north
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Location:
Finland
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November 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 14:43
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Hehe We did get only like 100-200 3T's in TT132 Coronas. So even 3T is tough word on the streets here in Finland...
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u.s.a. south
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April 2004
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 16:28
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by "outside of the mainstream", I'm refering to any motor that does not have 4 valves per cylinder, which are generally percieved (by most u guys) to not be a "performance motor", or worth the effort and are so inferior to....
Eg.; The 22re, buick v6, 3tc, etc.. U know what I mean
Went thru this on your aussie starion forums also.
They're quick to discredit their sohc staz 2L and opt for the vr4 dohc.
I asked the simple question, if anybody made one single 'serious' sohc effort. No they haven't, yet they make the *assumptions* that it can't perform/not worth it. Brainwashed.
yes, alot of yanks, like everybody else want the ez way out. This normally found with the younger "pepsi generation".
Case in point is all those bandwagoners tossing out their ka24 for a slower, more expensive to mod and buy, import sr20..... instead of turbocharging the 'worthless truck motor'. Pretty much the norm here too.
One ka recently put down a whopping 600ft-lbs tq to the wheels - that is 6cyl territory! Did it using stock head/intake/throttle body. Yep, you surely won't have any use for a monster like that in a fwd.
I seriously doubt u have as many odd turbo'd motor as we have. The buick v6, 3T, 22re are just a few of many moded 'oddballs' we have lots of. Not the case with u guys from what I've seen.
Moded a 3t in my 1st rolla. Its a darn good, very simple little motor
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Location:
Sweden
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May 2003
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 16:38
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| Jayem wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 16:43 |
Hehe We did get only like 100-200 3T's in TT132 Coronas. So even 3T is tough word on the streets here in Finland...
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Here in Sweden there's a lot of 3T-C in TE72,TA47 and TA60.
But we don't have any G or JZ-cars until Lexus IS200 and Supra JZ80.
There's a few 2T-G and a handful of 18R-G.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 17:02
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| Johnny Blade wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 02:38 |
| Jayem wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 16:43 |
Hehe We did get only like 100-200 3T's in TT132 Coronas. So even 3T is tough word on the streets here in Finland...
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Here in Sweden there's a lot of 3T-C in TE72,TA47 and TA60.
But we don't have any G or JZ-cars until Lexus IS200 and Supra JZ80.
There's a few 2T-G and a handful of 18R-G.
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lucky buggers, we never got the TE series corollas until the TE71/72.. which, although it had a 3TC, was not a great car... kind of had all the bits they didn't want to put in the KE/AE70 and the AE86,...
we have IS200, but not the JZA80... the JZ's would be well recieved i think 
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Thu, 21 July 2005 23:49
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| quest wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 02:28 |
by "outside of the mainstream", I'm refering to any motor that does not have 4 valves per cylinder, which are generally percieved (by most u guys) to not be a "performance motor", or worth the effort and are so inferior to....
Eg.; The 22re, buick v6, 3tc, etc.. U know what I mean
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I think you'll find it has little to to with the number of valves. We can get cheap late-model high-performance engines over here (most of which happen to be 4 valves/cyl), so in terms of bang for your buck it's nearly always better to use one of these instead of starting with a lower baseline and building from there.
Having said that, plenty of people are playing with older "low tech" stuff in these parts. Myself, I'm building a home-brew turbo 18R-G (that's right 2 valves/cyl) and in the past I've owned 2T's, 3T's, 5M-E's, a 5M-GE and a 6M-GE. In fact the only multi-valve engine I've ever owned is the 2JZ-GTE I have now, and considering it cost me $2900 I think you'll agree it was far more cost-effective than trying to squeeze a reliable 400hp out of the old 6M!
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Location:
Eastern Melbourne
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Fri, 22 July 2005 13:59
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does anyone know how much a wreckers spec 3TC costs?
if they are cheap, it would be worth getting ablout 5 and playing with them!
the reason im asking about 3t's is that im trying to decide on an engine for my KE35, i was going to go for a 4age but i kindof want to keep it old school.
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Location:
Townsville
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February 2005
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Fri, 22 July 2005 14:14
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We bought 2 complete running(well one would have run if we fixed the dizzy) t18's for $400 ($300 for 1, $100 for the other). I think t18's are worth about $100 in average condition!
I think like has been said, they are only good because they will take a lot of punishment, not because they are a good design.
Depends what you wanted to do to the 4age.
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Location:
Finland
Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Boosted 3TC.
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Sat, 23 July 2005 01:03
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Here in Sweden there's a lot of 3T-C in TE72,TA47 and TA60.
But we don't have any G or JZ-cars until Lexus IS200 and Supra JZ80.
There's a few 2T-G and a handful of 18R-G.
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All the TE corollas came here with 2T same with Carinas.
TA47 would be so nice, we did get none. Was RA28 imported to Sweden?
I recently sold a 3T crank that was badly worn. I got 80¤(125AUD) just for the busted crank. 3T engines that are in good nick goes for 200-300¤ (315-470AUD). It's sellers markets here.
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