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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 01:47
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While ill be upgrading my exhaust system, i want something quiet
so which full catback exhaust is the quiets.
Fujitsubo Legalis R? HKS SPORT?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:04
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MoTeC
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:06
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Stock?
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:07
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clearly the Fujitsubo Legalis quieter
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:42
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Why waste your money on a wanky name-brand system? If you want something quiet that's easy, just go to any exhaust shop and they'll install some nice big mufflers for you.
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 03:23
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Norbie wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:42 | Why waste your money on a wanky name-brand system? If you want something quiet that's easy, just go to any exhaust shop and they'll install some nice big mufflers for you.
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I have done a complete exhaust system with extractors and everything from liverpool exhaust on my gti - it sounded like a wrx and performed like crap, the exhaust was soo loud that i got defect on the second day, going to westfields. and to answer to your question, they make then out of titanium
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 03:44
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 13:23 |
Norbie wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:42 | Why waste your money on a wanky name-brand system? If you want something quiet that's easy, just go to any exhaust shop and they'll install some nice big mufflers for you.
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I have done a complete exhaust system with extractors and everything from liverpool exhaust on my gti - it sounded like a wrx and performed like crap, the exhaust was soo loud that i got defect on the second day, going to westfields. and to answer to your question, they make then out of titanium
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poor darling, he....just...doesnt... get it.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered: September 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 03:49
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This is the way to go, more tips = quieter exhaust
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Fri, 22 July 2005 04:02
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Buy the titanium exhaust then. Clearly it will be "better".
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I supported Toymods On probation
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Registered: January 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 04:06
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Personally i would only bother putting an exhaust on a serious engine like a motec 4ac or something similar. Anything else and your wasting your time. Titanium!!!!!!!!111111eleven1!
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:02
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boris wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 14:06 | Personally i would only bother putting an exhaust on a serious engine like a motec 4ac or something similar. Anything else and your wasting your time. Titanium!!!!!!!!111111eleven1!
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4ac , your still living in the past
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:07
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EvilJack wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 13:49 | This is the way to go, more tips = quieter exhaust
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and it looks horn
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:08
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:53 | rob_RA40: im buying titanium because no one works with titanium in here, understand? Please dont ask me why im buying a titanium exhaust.
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No one works with platinum either, maybe give that a try.
Unobtainium would be the ducks nuts when it comes to exhausts though.
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:10
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mmmm light metals are what he wants, you thought about making one out of magnesium
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:11
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im not making one, im buying one
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:13
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well buy one made out of magnesium then
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:14
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CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:08 |
bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:53 | rob_RA40: im buying titanium because no one works with titanium in here, understand? Please dont ask me why im buying a titanium exhaust.
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No one works with platinum either, maybe give that a try.
Unobtainium would be the ducks nuts when it comes to exhausts though.
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hey pal this is the real world, not that stupid movie where they set off nuclear bombs inside the earth or some shit...
why did you have to remind me of that movie
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:15
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Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:13 | well buy one made out of magnesium then
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can you read the hole post. I only asked 1, thats 1 question
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:18
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 11:47 | While ill be upgrading my exhaust system, i want something quiet
so which full catback exhaust is the quiets.
Fujitsubo Legalis R? HKS SPORT?
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the quiets is not a word maybe you should read your post, for starters these are jap exhaust meaning they are not built to meet aus noise reg so neither of them will probably pass, comprenday, plus if you want titanium, why not just pay an expert to build a custom mandrel bent system out of 304 stainless steel. It'll be quiet and probably produce more power too. Oh and catbacks do fuckall so unless you already have extractors etc i wouldn't bother.
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Location: Campbelltown
Registered: November 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 05:19
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:15 |
Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:13 | well buy one made out of magnesium then
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can you read the hole post. I only asked 1, thats 1 question
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yes there is a rather big hole in your post thanks for telling me.
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Banned user
Location: Liverpool NSW
Registered: March 2004
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Location: new castle
Registered: July 2005
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 06:35
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whats the point of putting a performance exhaust on car if your going to take away from the performance by putting mufflers and that on it. dont these restrict air flow witch is opposite to what a performance exhaust does??
if what i just said is completly wrong can someone please correct me
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 06:36
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 14:53 | Nordie: "Buy the titanium exhaust then. Clearly it will be "better". - Which one but, I heard veilside are good
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Get the shiniest and most expensive one you can find.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 06:37
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havabeer wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 16:35 | if what i just said is completly wrong can someone please correct me
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Yes, you've completely missed the point. It has to be made out of titanium because it's better.
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 06:48
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Bring the holes to the titanium for the quiet exhaust yall
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Fri, 22 July 2005 06:50
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I know a mate who knows this exhaust guy and he says titanium gives 50kw more powa! Also he said you should have it polished inside and out so its smoother and flows more. This will be the best! Dunno if it will be more quiet though.
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I supported Toymods
Location: melbourne
Registered: June 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 08:51
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titanium is great stuff for exhausts on so many levels, but it is far to expensive to be worth it. you could probably turbo your car for the price of a titanium exhaust system.
use stainless if you are serious about it.
as for your question, get a stock one, or get a new hobby.
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I supported Toymods
Location: I renounced punctuation
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 12:03
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I am posting here because you all know what I would be saying but cannot due to my current status.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 12:35
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bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 13:23 |
Norbie wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:42 | Why waste your money on a wanky name-brand system? If you want something quiet that's easy, just go to any exhaust shop and they'll install some nice big mufflers for you.
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I have done a complete exhaust system with extractors and everything from liverpool exhaust on my gti - it sounded like a wrx and performed like crap, the exhaust was soo loud that i got defect on the second day, going to westfields. and to answer to your question, they make then out of titanium
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did you consider asking the muffler shop to actually fit a muffler that reduces the loudness of your overpriced exhaust system?
but ... casting aside all seriousness - fuck it, i'm with shane - bring dem holes!
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 12:45
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CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:08 |
bubbles wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 12:53 | rob_RA40: im buying titanium because no one works with titanium in here, understand? Please dont ask me why im buying a titanium exhaust.
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No one works with platinum either, maybe give that a try.
Unobtainium would be the ducks nuts when it comes to exhausts though.
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thats crap, i work with platinum every day.. i have about 2 grands worth sitting on my shelf at uni... and sure as hell there aint enough to make an exhaust out of
anyway, platinum is farkin soft as, the oxide may start to vapourise at dump pipe temps, and if anything you ould want to look at nickel based superalloys with a platinum-modified aluminium coating if anything...
fwiw, the LEGALIS-R exhausts seem to be the "yahoo auction special".. ie you know all the crap they try and flog off on ebay in Aus? like that
most japanese exhausts are loud because they are non-restrictive, but some sound ok.... stock will always be quieter, but maybe you should consider a TRD exhaust (serious) compared to the other name brand bits... the jap exhausts sound loud even on turbo cars.. anyway...
FWIW the AE86'S i see around here ALL sound like a kitten farting in a milo tin... farkin terrible...
either way, you are looking at around. what.. $2-5K or more for titanium (whole exhuast.. not just the tip or just the muffler... many f the titanium thingies are just the muffler)
s'anyway titanium is more than half the weight of steel (4.7vs 7.8?), costs 10-20 times as much (maybe 2-5 times more expensive than stainless) and the weight saving on a full exhaust system must be at least 5-6kg
here you go...
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g5741 014
Quote: | 【FUJITSUBO】LegalisR(近接 100dB) AE86カローӤ 1;レビン
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at least the important bits didn't need to be translated...
so we got this quiet thing clear yet?
Cya, Stewart
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 12:49
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translated from yahoo auctions:
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* Manufacturer name: FUJITSUBO &
product name: Legalis [ R ] approach 100dB (new item)
* item turn: 750? 22456
* classification: Muffler & price: XXYEN 68 and 250 (substance price XXYEN 65 and 000)
* Corresponding model: AE86 カローラ&a mp;#12524;ビン
* body type: E? AE86 & engine type: 4A? GE & year system: S58 5? S62 5
* Corresponding model: AE86 スプリン&a mp;#12479;ートレ& ;#12494;
* body type: E? AE86 & engine type: 4A? GE & year system: S58 5? S62 5
* Exit form: 60.5 φ Slash (W 21 &)
* pipe diameter: 50.8 φ
* Special mention item: JASMA recognition item (vehicle inspection corresponding item): All stainless steel model You can purchase with only successful bid price. Consumer tax is included in successful bid price. The postage is free. When (Hokkaido, Okinawa and the remote island etc. you exclude) the tip of dispatching Hokkaido, it is Okinawa and the remote island etc., at the question column please inquire. When (it is outside business hour, there are times when answer is next day.) When it can designate the verification of payment to as 3 o'clock in the afternoon, dispatch of the next day is possible.
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so.. AUD$853... for a 2" stainless exhaust... that pumps out 100dB
sound slike a great deal to me
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Fri, 22 July 2005 23:35
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gianttomato wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 22:03 | I am posting here because you all know what I would be saying but cannot due to my current status.
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man, I'm mising your contributions GT - how long left till you're off probation?
and bubbles - well, first of all you're an idiot. I don't know where you got the idea for a titaniumn exhaust.. maybe you saw the mclaren F1 had one (increnellum tiutanium anyway)? Just remember that car cost about AUD$2mil. There is a reason most race cars and rally cars and car enthusiasts use stainless. It weighs in about 6 kgs more, and saves you generally over $3k.
You're suggesting buying a cat-back, so it seems you don't really care about performance to begin with (because if you just upgrade engine-cat you'll see more gains). that $3k you save when you just get a stainless exahaust you could spend on weight reduction and save more than the 6kgs the exhaust would save you. Or if you insist on being obsessive, get aluminium. Very light, but doesn't like heat too much.. but for the saving on titanium, you can just replace the exhaust when you bust it.
and as for noise... go to an exhaust shop. ask for a 2" or 2 1/4" exhaust with a high flow cat, resonator and an oval muffler at the back. no it won't look pretty, but it keeps the noise down.
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Location: new castle
Registered: July 2005
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Sat, 23 July 2005 03:42
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with all these cannons around these days what ever happened to the mischevious days of putting a potatoe up someones muffler... now days one would have to carry a good sized cantalope to try and stuff in there.
does putting a cannon on really do that much to the performance, my celica (with back muffler taken out) i think sounds better with a more high pitched growl sounds alot better to me then most cars i hear with cannons
thats just my opion but... not sure how you'd go aboot putting a quiet exhaust on with out going stock
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:37
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draven wrote on Sat, 23 July 2005 09:35 |
gianttomato wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 22:03 | I am posting here because you all know what I would be saying but cannot due to my current status.
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man, I'm mising your contributions GT - how long left till you're off probation?
and bubbles - well, first of all you're an idiot. I don't know where you got the idea for a titaniumn exhaust.. maybe you saw the mclaren F1 had one (increnellum tiutanium anyway)? Just remember that car cost about AUD$2mil. There is a reason most race cars and rally cars and car enthusiasts use stainless. It weighs in about 6 kgs more, and saves you generally over $3k.
You're suggesting buying a cat-back, so it seems you don't really care about performance to begin with (because if you just upgrade engine-cat you'll see more gains). that $3k you save when you just get a stainless exahaust you could spend on weight reduction and save more than the 6kgs the exhaust would save you. Or if you insist on being obsessive, get aluminium. Very light, but doesn't like heat too much.. but for the saving on titanium, you can just replace the exhaust when you bust it.
and as for noise... go to an exhaust shop. ask for a 2" or 2 1/4" exhaust with a high flow cat, resonator and an oval muffler at the back. no it won't look pretty, but it keeps the noise down.
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well, after recent episodes of Bubbles intelligence, reading this thread again, and having to sit in a car with a fucking Fujitsubo legalisR exhaust for 4 hrs..... i can say Bubbles, you are a complete idiot...
why you would want one of thes exhausts is completely and utterly beyond me. you seem incapable of researching these qustions before asking, have no common sense (i guess that goes with your "faith") adn you would have to be a complete idiot to want to put on either of these exhausts..
then again, if it's in D1, it must be fooly sik
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: July 2005
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Sat, 20 August 2005 23:56
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I think the best way to get a good sound is to just run 1 turbo style muffler (oval with offset inlet/outlet) Makes for a more meaty sounding exhaust on a naturaly asperated motor.
Ever noticed naturaly asperated motors almost always sound "Farty" with "Can" style Mufflers,,Change it to a turbo style muffler and you will have a meaty sounding car
I have done this to my 2 CE lancers(Tried 3 different mufflers on them) and now my old beatup 93 Hilux 22r, The hilux sounds more like a hot "Old School" Gemini!. All it has is extractors,then 2 1/4" engine pipe to Muffler. Then to get some nice tone, a 2 1/2" tailpipe! (No Cat, not fitted by factory, not fitted by me!)
Keep the cans for the turbo Supras/WRXs/Skylines.
Rich
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: January 2005
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Sun, 21 August 2005 02:05
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lol. Who dug this up?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Sun, 21 August 2005 03:50
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old corolla did.
but it was to poke fun at bubbles, so it's forgivable.
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Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered: November 2004
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Sun, 21 August 2005 04:51
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draven wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 13:50 | but it was to poke fun at bubbles, so it's forgivable.
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oldcorollas, have you finished yet?
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Wed, 24 August 2005 08:00
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Fr3aK wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 12:05 | lol. Who dug this up?
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almost finished
who says posting in a thread after ONE MONTH is digging it up???
in the last week there have been acouple of 1 and 2 year old thread resurfacing....
and anyway, it was vaguely ontopic as i had firsthand experience with the particular exhaust in question (beating my brains out with it's drone in a fooly sik Toyota Noah)
and it wasn't just to make fun of bubbles....
no really!!
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Location: Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered: August 2004
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Re: quiet exhaust
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Wed, 24 August 2005 13:46
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But we cant forget the fully sik sticker to make things a little quieter if placed correctly
over one's gapping hole
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Location: Noosa
Registered: November 2004
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Thu, 25 August 2005 01:01
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Dude, why dont you try one of those bike pipes or 4. something like those fully sik yoshi pipes off a GSX1000R K5 should do it.
It just might work
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Thu, 25 August 2005 06:02
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someone did that to the KE10 convertible that used to live near Coogee.. never heard it tho, but it looked fooly sik
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I supported Toymods
Location: Frankston, Victoria
Registered: April 2004
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Fri, 26 August 2005 09:14
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Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 15:13 | well buy one made out of magnesium then
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Lol, if no-one noticed, magnesium, when raised to a certain temperature over a naked flame, lights up to a brightness uncomprehendable to the human eye. It's what stun grenades (Flashbangs) are made out of. Get a misfiring system and go blinding your opponents!!
gianttomato wrote on Fri, 22 July 2005 22:03 | I am posting here because you all know what I would be saying but cannot due to my current status.
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LOL! I can imagine.
Kev.
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