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button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 13:39
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I realise this probably sounds stupid to those who are knowledgeable when it comes to cars and parts, but could someone explain the difference between a button clutch and a normal clutch. As someone who is sick of driving an auto and is just starting to learn how to drive a manual, i have found my dream car but it has a button clutch, i wish to know the difference between the two. If someone could be of assistance it would be very helpful as well as much appreciated.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 13:47
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if you dont know how to drive a manual dont buy a car with a button clutch. Generally like a button they are either on or off or they have a very bitey
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Melbourne
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July 2005
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 13:50
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so they are either on or off, there is no leeway?
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 14:12
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some are better than others like my ceramic button you could slip but its not something you would want to learn to drive on other button clutches ive used are very difficult to drive especially with hill starts parking etc
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I Supported Toymods
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Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
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August 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 15:26
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Yer. Pain to drive in start-stop traffic, parking, hill starts etc. I got a 4 puck brass button (sprung centre) and it has a teeny tiny bit of leeway/friction point sorta thing. But not enough revs and the thing just stalls... 
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Location:
Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 22:52
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I have a brass button too. Exedy 5 Puck, no sprung centre  . They are a little shuddery and if you don't get your rev's up, they will jolt/stall. I usually take off at around 1500-2000RPM to be smooth, and in stop start conditions, you can just "burst" it, pop clutch, in and out. Works ok. For hill starts, i use the handbrake, and take off normally while letting the handbrake down gentally.
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Location:
Sydney NSW
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:49
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And a brass button cant handle too much "learner" punishment, it will eventually fcuk up.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:13
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Oh dear i wouldnt want to learn how to drive a manual with a brass button clutch. The other problem with them is that if you are using it as a car that you drive on the street that if you use the clutch like a normal item, ie ride to clutch to get a smooth take off rather than just giving it revs and dumping it the clutch life will be significantly shortend
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:17
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FWIW I've had a ceramic 5-puck in my daily driver for nearly 2 years and it's still going strong. Drive them sensibly (no riding the clutch) and they'll last. You'd want to be experienced driving a manual before getting one though.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 00:56
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| Norbie wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 10:17 |
FWIW I've had a ceramic 5-puck in my daily driver for nearly 2 years and it's still going strong. Drive them sensibly (no riding the clutch) and they'll last. You'd want to be experienced driving a manual before getting one though.
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yeah i agree they dont like being slipped much i have a 3 puck exeedy ceramic button and it has a tiny bit of slip in it but most people dont know how to drive it and dont give it enough revs and then it stalls or they try and slip it. One of the mechanics at the place i take it to must have been used to driving excells and stalled it 3 times b4 giving up and asked me to drive it onto the hoist for him was quite entertaining.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 04:06
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It's funny, when I first got the button in my mr2, I hated it, but now, I hate non-button clutches - They just seem to lack precision. (they are easier to get out of the driveway though).
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:36
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they also have a habbit of destroying engine mounts
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:45
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Bah, i use a button clutch (sprung centre) and its fine, hasnt caused any damage and is easy to use
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:46
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| ROLLA GTi wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 18:45 |
Bah, i use a button clutch (sprung centre) and its fine, hasnt caused any damage and is easy to use
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maybee its because you drive like a grandma 
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:48
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yeah must be
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: button clutches
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:58
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Kazuma learning a manual with a button is fine on the track but on the street, one you will wear it out much much quicker and two it can be a little dangerous in the wet. if its an exedy ceramic button it wont be as bad as say a triple plate,but if its your dream car,be prepared to drive it ever now and then as you learn a manual box on another car.you must be young{lol or an old women}to not have driven a manual before,some people get it straight away some people take longer{my mum is 60 and still has a hard time with manuals}. as a young bloke,if its your dream car,get it,but make sure you ad a $1000,so you can put a standard clutch in it and keep the button for a bit later.
mick
[Updated on: Fri, 29 July 2005 09:03]
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