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Alchemist
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Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 08:11 Go to next message
Now as I was leisurely driving home down the Old Pac today I was pulled over by 2 Highway Patrol Officers for a "random" breath test.

Anyway first that happened was I was asked to get out of the car and pop the bonet, of course it was noticed rather quickly that I had a pod filter installed. Anyway the 2 guys were rather decent chaps, not commenting on ground clearance, exhaust or any of the other things they could have thrown at me, but they were quite adimant that I get the filter boxed(which I've been planning on for a while). Just before I drove away I was breath tested. Anyway I drove away and they generously didn't give me a defect notice.

Now, I'm wondering what the fines are if you actually get pulled over and you don't run into nice Officers like the ones I got today? I'd like to box the filter in the next few months, it's just when I can afford to do it.

I just need to do a "cost analysis" as to whether I need to fix this up right away, or can it wait 2 months?
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
depends if you get caught in the next 2 months ive driven arround for ages with an exposed pod filter with no problems then again i dont drive a supra...

Its not very hard at all to make a box yourself even if its a little dodgy until you can get the money together for a proper one to be made up
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
in qld you dont need a box just so long as it is secured to something , id ring ur department of transport and get the ruling on that , and just make something up temporarily, a m8 just got some perspex and got some angle and pop riveted it into a box lol. it works and doesnt look to bad.. just enough to keep them happy if it is indeed ilegal
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh I know they are illegal, I'm just wondering as to whether the fine I'm gonna cop in the next 2 months is going to be cheaper than getting a decent box made up. Although I'm pondering bending some Aluminium up in a boxish shape myself.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Make up a draft out of cardboard then buy some sheet alloy and bend it up at home...

or move to queensland Very Happy
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Or put your standard airbox back on in the mean time if your really worried. Confused
Making up a box really doesn't cost much. you can buy a sheet of aluminium from Bunnings for about $10. Smile
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sydneys wack... nothing wrong with an exposed pod filter here... Confused
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah
just make a shield up
i did looks dodge but works
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
berad wrote on Sun, 31 July 2005 18:26

in qld you dont need a box just so long as it is secured to something

I would like to know where you got this info??
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
several police officers and qld transport officers that have pulled me over
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
berad wrote on Sun, 31 July 2005 19:28

several police officers and qld transport officers that have pulled me over

Your lucky then, cause your information is wrong!
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dont know... but i got put over the pits thursday night and they went over everything and all they got me for was a bov and a non dry cell battery in the boot
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
first of, well done Alchemist.the first lesson in all of this is to show a bit of respect and it will go along way,exept if you get a really shocking cop,but they are few and far between.
make a box out of alloy sheet.easy to do with a vice and two lengths of alloy right angle{to sit in the vice jaws}.bend up the box and pop rivet it together.cheaper than getting defects cleared if there is a few defectable things on you car.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yea I was really polite to them, I was having a chat to once of the Officers whilst the other was giving my car the once over, I just tried to ignore it, I knew what was there that wasn't sposed to be Confused . For a moment I thought he wasn't going to mention it all together, but I spose he had to say something.

Anyway I think I'm going to try to make something myself, it'll have to wait until next weekend as I won't have time to make something til then, I'll make up an aluminium box with a nice feed of cold air via some aircon pipe from some vents in the front bar.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dude, dyno proven stock airbox makes same power as pod filter.

Change it back, no more worries.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yea I know.....It's just that I can't fit the resonators and all the stock plastic piping up because of the extractors heat issues....I guess I could just go from steel piping into the side of the factory air box, now I just need to get me one.....
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So what are you going to do about your Soarer then, It's got a big gold HKS intake on it last time I was lookin Very Happy

BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 31 July 2005 22:05

dude, dyno proven stock airbox makes same power as pod filter.

Change it back, no more worries.

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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can verify that in Qld Pod filters only have to be secured...
info from:
-Friends
-Mechanics
-Police
-DOT
and in writing in the rules and regulations!

sucks to be in NSW... Embarassed
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TougeVitz wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 02:26

can verify that in Qld Pod filters only have to be secured...
info from:
-Friends
-Mechanics
-Police
-DOT
and in writing in the rules and regulations!


I'd love to live in this world.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool1 you keep saying that everyone is incorrect on this matter but have not shown anything to back it up.

Can you provide anything to back up your information? (I have not drawn any conclusions, I would just like to see some evidence for and against)
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Sun, 31 July 2005 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My information is directly from the Code of Practice.
I cant remember how its written in the book, but if you change the emission standards on your car in anyway you need to have it put through a strict emissions test. And replacing the air box with a pod is changing the emissions.
So if your car came from the factory with an air box, you cant legally fit a pod unless you get the emissions test.
This also goes for cars that have had an engine conversion. If the new engine you put in your car had an air box from the factory, it needs to be fitted!
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Mon, 01 August 2005 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok I have some more information.
DOT now doesn't care for people doing modification to their cars. This means if you fit a POD to you car, they will not say yay or nay.
So if you get pulled over by a cop who's in a shitty mood, he can defect you for the pod! Its then up to you to prove that the pod doesn't effect the emissions.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Mon, 01 August 2005 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alchemist wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 00:23

So what are you going to do about your Soarer then, It's got a big gold HKS intake on it last time I was lookin Very Happy

BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 31 July 2005 22:05

dude, dyno proven stock airbox makes same power as pod filter.

Change it back, no more worries.




Highly modified engine vs stock engine will make a big intake restriction difference.

I will eventually get it enclosed.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Mon, 01 August 2005 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i heard open pods are not illegal in nsw, police are just bastards!

i had my pod out in open for all to see on my old r31 pintara, i had a samll bracket securing the afm to keep it still, and no porblems ever arose! i even had a mechanic tell me it was perfectly legal and didnt need to bother boxing it in

my two cents...
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Mon, 01 August 2005 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mideon_696 wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 20:44



i had my pod out in open for all to see on my old r31 pintara, i had a samll bracket securing the afm to keep it still, and no porblems ever arose! i even had a mechanic tell me it was perfectly legal and didnt need to bother boxing it in


So you had the emissions tested and nothing had changed?
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
decent pod filters do make a difference.

But your best way to get a very slight gain is to put your air box back on and get a TOMS or TRD replacement sports filter. should get 5-10hp flywheel extra plus you dont get any hass from the fuzz
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSupra wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 19:45

Alchemist wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 00:23

So what are you going to do about your Soarer then, It's got a big gold HKS intake on it last time I was lookin Very Happy

BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 31 July 2005 22:05

dude, dyno proven stock airbox makes same power as pod filter.

Change it back, no more worries.




Highly modified engine vs stock engine will make a big intake restriction difference.

I will eventually get it enclosed.



I think most people read your first comment as:

"stock airbox makes same power as pod filter," rather than
"stock, airbox makes same power as pod filter"

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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
never had the emissions tested, was never told i had to, one officer seen it, and didnt say a word. maybe he was in a good mood?
hey it passed rego fine, twice, so yeah...
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My K&N pod filter (without air flow meter)made a total of 4kw more, over the stock airbox with AFM and K&N pnel filter. this was with an ATMO motor.
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
check out the lancer (cc) early 90's model, they got a filter that can fit a pod Surprised
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah my friends 91 lancer has one of those things your talking about.... its a prick to try and get the pod in and out of there but
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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it's usually the inlet into the airbox that is restrictive, not the filter itself, so once again the lancer boys shine thru by enclosing a pod filter in a restrictive airbox.. hurrah!

[Updated on: Tue, 02 August 2005 07:38]

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Re: Aftermarket Pod Filters Tue, 02 August 2005 08:03 Go to previous message
bast advice - just make up an enclosed box - its pretty easy to do - an afternnoon or two and youll be covered

local hardware store is your friend for all the bits you need
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