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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 00:12
 
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yeah but its done 377000 km in 8 years
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Fri, 05 August 2005 00:24
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 10:12 |
yeah but its done 377000 km in 8 years
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Meh, so it's barely run in.
I'd quite happily pay $5k for a 1GZ-FE with 377k on the clock. If only I hadn't bought a house...
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Fri, 05 August 2005 00:33
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| Norbie wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 10:24 |
If only I hadn't bought a house...
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WTF were you thinking?!?! 
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Fri, 05 August 2005 00:51
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If was thinking 10 years of rent at (average) $150/week = nearly $80k down the drain. 
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 00:55
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Yeah, but 1GZ-FE.....
     
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Fri, 05 August 2005 01:20
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I don't see you buying any 1GZ's. 
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Fri, 05 August 2005 01:40
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That's 'coz I've got two mortgages and a new car!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 01:44
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Equity Mate?
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Fri, 05 August 2005 02:12
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| Nark wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 11:40 |
That's 'coz I've got two mortgages and a new car!
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WTF were you thinking?!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 02:22
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If was thinking 10 years of rent at (average) $150/week = nearly $80k down the drain.
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Fri, 05 August 2005 03:57
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Why bother even cracking the thing open...it'll handle 10-15psi easy depending on the chosen compressor size and you think that won't produce 400rwkw+ and more torque than any factory drivetrain will handle??????
Keep it simple and enjoy the drive...much better than staring at a pile of ever increasely expensive parts sitting on the shed floor 
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Fri, 05 August 2005 04:04
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That's all well and good if you want to turbocharge it, but don't you think a high-revving atmo screamer would be so much cooler? More expensive yes, but imagine the sound it would make.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 04:05
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| Norbie wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 13:34 |
That's all well and good if you want to turbocharge it, but don't you think a high-revving atmo screamer would be so much cooler? More expensive yes, but imagine the sound it would make.
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pfft
crank the turbos
you want induction noise go download some sound files...id be more happy making 400rwkw for half the cost
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Fri, 05 August 2005 04:17
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Like the 1UZ i think all you'd do following the n/a path would be a set of cams and a decent exhaust. 1U rods will take 8000rpm but until you have cams that actually work past 5000rpm there's no point...it'll be the same for the V12.
The noise would turn heads for sure though....i used to love the sound of the V12 E Type that would turn up at Uni every now and then.
I'd still be going twin GT30XX
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:07
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There's no doubt the TT option will yield far more power at lower cost, but there comes a point where you have to consider how much power is too much. Getting 600hp NA out of a 1GZ shouldn't be hard - turbo will easily surpass that, but how the hell are you going to use it? I have less than 400hp at the moment and it's pretty damn scary on the street sometimes. An extra 50% on top of that boggles the mind.
Those are my thoughts anyway. Obviously Mr GT8 has long since banished such thoughts from his head, so I guess I'm on my own here.
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:15
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| Norbie wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 15:07 |
Those are my thoughts anyway. Obviously Mr GT8 has long since banished such thoughts from his head, so I guess I'm on my own here.
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i'll put in my vote for do-deca throttles 
quad throttle.. bah, how poncy... if the octa-throttle 1UZ sounds good, the do-deca throttle 1GZ would sound lurvely 
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:22
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:27
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No point denying my boost fetish but you have just shown yourself the way Norbie....you won't get 600hp from the V12 without cams or boost and i reckon i can do the boosted version cheaper for any level of hp. The mod progression would be-
leave it stock and enjoy the silky torque
extractors for a bit more top end
boost baby boost
go nuts with all the good n/a fruit
go really nuts with all the boosted fruit and point the thing at the moon
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:31
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 14:57 |
go really nuts with all the boosted fruit and point the thing at the moon
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I like this one
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:32
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whilst we are dreaming why not have three, one worked NA for a track car, one turbo for a straight line and a third with a big PD supercharger for uber low end torque
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:49
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yeah but whether or not you fit in the car afterwards is another argument.
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:49
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Yup, no wider than a 1U. A longer engine bay would help but any small toyota you put it in won't go round corners real good
The JZA80 option is the best bet or a 260Z if you can handle a brand swap
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 06:14
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 15:49 |
a 260Z if you can handle a brand swap
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Sacrilege!!
I love the JZA80 idea!!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 06:34
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Oh yes obviously you'd need cams, dodeca throttles and possibly higher compression pistons to get 600hp NA. This is why I said earlier you'd need a "substantial" budget to do it properly. 600hp turbo would be so much easier and cheaper, but if you're playing with an engine like this why do things by halves?
Not that I'm anti-boost by any means. My daily driver is turbo and my "weekend car" is well on its way to being turbo. It would be nice to try something atmo but equally silly, that's all. Plus the thought of having probably the world's fastest NA Supra is kind of cool. 
All of this is pure fantasy though - there's no way I can afford to build a 600hp NA V12 without selling both of my current projects first, and there's no way that's going to happen any time soon.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 07:39
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I reckon one of these with a set of ITB's and beautiful big bunch of banana's extractors would be just the ticket in the back of a GT40 replica.
At least that's one of my plans for when lotto get's around to making me a multi millionaire.
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Fri, 05 August 2005 07:40
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My cunning plan was to turn one into an N/A screamer and fit it to a 240Z.
It'd be a hoot ....
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Fri, 05 August 2005 13:32
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A Nissan?
Ban please.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Fri, 05 August 2005 14:39
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2nd'd
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Fri, 05 August 2005 14:58
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| oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 13:38 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 15:28 |
Custom pistons are around the $250 each for one offs.
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and rods are similar.. ish?
so $500 per bore x 12 = $6K just for pistons and rods..
think customs 4cyl build then multiply by 3. a V12 is never going to be "cheap" ...
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its cheap if you have alot of money :S
Eldar.O.
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Sun, 07 August 2005 07:52
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Hi Guys
I like Justen's idea a little bit of boost should see it happily in the 300+ rwkw and that should be keeping it well and truly safe
Norbie
NA all out mods would be awesome and the sound would be great, but a budget killer it would be,.. hmm I'd hate to think what a set of camshafts are worth to be reground
We have just landed one and actually just picked it up saturday off the importer ,.. I will get a tape over it sometime next week with some measurements / pics
For those who maybe chasing one it will give a idea if it will fit whatever you plan to put it in
This one will be getting a little bit of boost
Just on a side note this was the 3rd one that we tried to land and the first 2 we missed out on ,.. as soon as they come on the Japanese market they get snapped up real quick
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 08:28
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PICS!!!!!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 09:56
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Too slack to check back for pics, so as per this post, ill take an email.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 11:22
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holy crap, i guess it had to happen one day
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 22:42
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LOL a little bit of boost....you don't know the meaning of low boost Jamie
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 22:45
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so... will it fit in the celica
or should i ask how well it fits?
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 22:49
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Not funny Stu, you don't know how close that was to happening. Luckily sanity prevailed and the 1GZ is destined for a more suitable recipient....also means we'll see the 22 run in anger much much much sooner
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Sun, 07 August 2005 23:00
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 08:49 |
Not funny Stu, you don't know how close that was to happening. Luckily sanity prevailed and the 1GZ is destined for a more suitable recipient....also means we'll see the 22 run in anger much much much sooner
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ahhh, i love it... you guys are completely nuts
i'm keen for a roadtrip when i get back... eventually...
Cya, Stewart
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 00:38
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Bah! I wanted to be the first with a V12. Oh well, it will be awesome to see what one of these things is capable of, and it won't be me paying the bills.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 01:07
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 08:49 |
Not funny Stu, you don't know how close that was to happening. Luckily sanity prevailed and the 1GZ is destined for a more suitable recipient....also means we'll see the 22 run in anger much much much sooner
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So are you saying you had a 1GZFE???
Where did it go?
/me kicks Justen in the nuts!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 02:56
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Nah not me. A little birdie asked my view on installing the V12 into a certain well known 22. I'd like to think my well reasoned response (are you farking mad) has resulted in the engine going to a more suitable car...leaving said 22 on the mad path it was already destined for.
If i had a 1GZ you would be listening the the wav file of it fish tailing down the road
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Mon, 08 August 2005 03:49
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 12:56 |
resulted in the engine going to a more suitable car
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Which is? A certain well known GT4 perhaps?
Enquiring minds want to know... PM if you want to keep it hush-hush.
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Mon, 08 August 2005 03:55
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If i could get a tansaxle at a half decent price then a mid engined V12 GT4 wouldn't be beyond imagining. In fact i'm dying to do a mid engined 1U in something that wasn't designed for it. Must be tru mid engine though so can't use a Porsch or VW box, has to be a fair dinkum transaxle.
As for the recipient of the 1GZ....very old Skool and won't appeal to many on this list. Not mine...or Jamies so unfair to divulge details. I think it's pretty cool though and more importantly it fits. Just not many options that would accept a 1GZ and keep acceptable dynamics.
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:19
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bah handling schmandling....
i vote 1GZ-FE KE10
might fit in the rear half of the car perhaps..
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:20
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an engine block with wheels
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:24
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| oldcorollas wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 13:49 |
bah handling schmandling....
i vote 1GZ-FE KE10
might fit in the rear half of the car perhaps..
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why not throw it into a clubman 
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:34
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| MR 1JZ wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 14:24 |
| oldcorollas wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 13:49 |
bah handling schmandling....
i vote 1GZ-FE KE10
might fit in the rear half of the car perhaps..
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why not throw it into a clubman
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you're thinking too big
lets strap it to a BMX bike like the kids that put whipper snipper motors on theirs
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 05:57
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 14:20 |
an engine block with wheels
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thats the ticket they'd have to be 22"rims as well of course....
are we still on topic?
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 06:01
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i dont think there was much of a topic to start with
basically i think the thread has gone along the lines of.....
"i wish i had a 1gz" and "if i had a 1gz i would..."
if i had a 1gz id want the century to go with it be great for cruising around in, add some boost and u will be goin great
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 06:03
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bwahahaha and all from the supposed knowledgable and mature ones on the forums.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 12:51
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Hmm I can imagine Stu & Justen trying to squeeze a mid mount 1GZ into a KE10 Corolla... Norbie could probably even help with a few brackets!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 13:59
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whack 2 6/71 blowers one on top of the other on the motor with, old skool carby fed something like 2 double pumper 650 holley.
Now for the BS bit.
Take this set up and mid mount in a 70's crown wagon, with a bug catcher on top of the roof.
Pimp it with 20's and remove the springs.
RIDE ON BUMP STOPS BABY.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Mon, 08 August 2005 21:53
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Who said it wouldn't fit in a 70's Crown
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Mon, 08 August 2005 23:52
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| THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 22:19 |
but before any captain insano projects begin, i must finish the 8 valve of ultimate glory, and spank two (very contrasted) orange RA23's back into the 70s....
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Keep dreaming buddy!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Tue, 09 August 2005 10:47
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 09 August 2005 09:52 |
| THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 22:19 |
but before any captain insano projects begin, i must finish the 8 valve of ultimate glory, and spank two (very contrasted) orange RA23's back into the 70s....
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Keep dreaming buddy!
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Last time i checked its pretty easy to beat an inanimate object in a drag race.
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Tue, 09 August 2005 21:59
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Too bad Witzl has your head norbs... you won't be going far without that!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Tue, 09 August 2005 23:37
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I still reckon my turbo 23 will be running before his turbo 28.
IT'S ON!!
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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!
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Wed, 10 August 2005 02:09
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still wont get very far without an engine
my turbo 28 is already running... .just without a turbo....
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