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4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 07 August 2005 10:56
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i have been offered a haltech e6k off a mates rotor, but i need to know what would be required to make it run a 4agte. to start with i would like to run the standard smallport ignition setup (dizzy,coil,etc) if this is posible?
can i use the smallport temp sensors, tps?
thanks
craig
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 07 August 2005 11:21
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Ignition system yes, although you might as well use 4 coils. Temp sensors no, but they're easy enough to change anyway, TPS yes.
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MACKAY
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 07 August 2005 11:30
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Yes you can use the temp and TPS on your motor but you will have to get a air-temp sensor ( commodore air temp sensor ) and fit it in your plenum and you can use the standard dissy and ign but you may need to purchase a Haltech RA8 Reluctor Adapter if you have trouble with the trigger input signal , The E6K has a built in Reluctor Adapter but does not always work properly .( But try it first ).
Trevor
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Adelaide
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 07 August 2005 11:53
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For comparison, the E6X is able to use the standards dizzy reluctors (which are the same big/small), and also the stock TPS as is setup in my car.
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:47
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Takai - do you have a e6x running on your motor? I just got my hands on one and as i have no previous wiring experience im hoping someone could give me some hints....i dont suppose that person could be u? 
I just need to know how to set up triggers , igniters and what pwm is...
Adam
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northern beaches
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Mon, 08 August 2005 07:00
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| mrshin wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 21:21 |
Ignition system yes, although you might as well use 4 coils. Temp sensors no, but they're easy enough to change anyway, TPS yes.
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what sort of temp sensor should i be looking for, is it generic or something supplied by haltech?
thanks heaps to everyone for your input 
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northern beaches
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August 2002
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Tue, 09 August 2005 10:54
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ok so suppose i was to go for a multi-coil setup, how do i go about it?
can i use coils off any type of car? (vauge memory of ppl using hyundi excel coils?)
what sort of ignition module do i use? (i think in my searches someone said a camira one would work?
would i be better off sourcing a gze crank angle sensor?
if i was to do everything above would that be my ignition system sorted? sorry if these are dum-ass questions but im getting myself very confused, if im totaly off course maybe someone could list some components that would be appropriate? (remember i plan to use the haltech e6k)
thanks
craig
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Tue, 09 August 2005 11:25
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i think that you dont need a crank angle sensor as you can use your dizzy but cut the top of it off.....i saw this somewhere and been told that a CAS is the same thing as dizzy just with no leads....
also if you call a haltech dealer they can recomend coils...the ones im getting are only 110 for 2 twin coil packs...
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northern beaches
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Tue, 09 August 2005 11:45
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so they will operate as a wasted spark set-up?
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northern beaches
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Tue, 09 August 2005 11:55
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anyone else know about the standard dizzy as a CAS that bobski is talking about, that would help me out heaps cause i have a smallport dizzy with a cracked cap!
ohh and i checked my closest hatech dealer, bobski you were on the money!
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Tue, 09 August 2005 12:03
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man im in the same boat as u.....i got a e6x sitting on my table...and it hurts every day goes by and its still layin ther 
im not 100% sure on if it works with the e6k but if it does then ur in luck
i think that if you look on haltech website
http://www.haltech.com.au/downloads/e6kv9man.pdf
there is a pdf manual u can download...it tells u heaps of interesting shit and a wiring diagram there too
gl
Adam
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Wed, 10 August 2005 12:14
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its not fair the microtech was so much easier!
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Thu, 11 August 2005 00:21
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The Dizzy doesn't function EXACTLY the same as a CAS, however it is very similar.
So yes, you can cap off the top of your dizzy, and use only the sensor outputs to tell Haltech that where the engine is at.
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Thu, 11 August 2005 07:24
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| stradlater wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 10:21 |
The Dizzy doesn't function EXACTLY the same as a CAS, however it is very similar.
So yes, you can cap off the top of your dizzy, and use only the sensor outputs to tell Haltech that where the engine is at.
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so will this only work with a smallport dizzy or a bigport one to?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Thu, 11 August 2005 11:30
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This is a (dirty) bigport distributor, minus cap & rotor button:
Since it is already locked (no mechanical or vacuum advance, the factory computer controls ignition timing), all you need to do is carefully grind off 3 of the 4 splines on the top section of the shaft. This will become your "home" or synchronisation event to tell the ECU that the next cylinder to fire is #1. The 24 tooth wheel below remains as is, and indicates engine position for timing purposes, as you can see it has its own seperate pickup.
Cheers
Phil
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Thu, 11 August 2005 12:22
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ahh cool, picture tells a thousand words. so how do i know which tooth coresponds with #1? or do i just line up the remaning tooth with the sensor when the engine is at tdc? thanks heaps for the info.
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 14 August 2005 08:24
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Alternative to grinding bits off you can just use a 100kw dizzy which only has the one trigger, and one amplifier unit.
Also for the wiring maybe it could look like this:
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Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Sun, 14 August 2005 11:37
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Takai: What are those coils off?
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Mon, 15 August 2005 08:35
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ok well i have a bigport one and might be able to score a 100kw dizzy, if i cant i suppose its the grinder for me.
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Adelaide
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Re: 4age - haltech e6k requirements
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Mon, 15 August 2005 11:56
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| BradW wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 21:37 |
Takai: What are those coils off?
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S15 SR20DET
Not sure if the S15s were any different to any others, they were jsut what was there.
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