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stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 00:55
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guys i very stupidly toped my starlet up with trans oil rather then engine oil i did this because i couldnt see it was dark... i only know because i could smell it. I put about 1/2 a L in there or just a little more is this a bad thing what can and will happen, yes i will change the oil but i cant do this until the weekend and i cant not drive the car so will it be sweet till the weekend? I dont see it doing anything that normal oil wont, just a bit thicker thats all??? but am i just being dilisonal? help!
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SE. Melbourne
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August 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 05:21
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Yeah mate. that is bad.
I am not sure exactly what will happen, but you can assume it will not be good. Change it ASAP. It will only take about 30 mins. I really recomend doing that before driving anywhere.
GL with it though.
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wollongong NSW
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August 2003
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 06:35
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That's not good, but I'm sure you worked that out yourself. I however am much more optimistic than the above two posters. I am amazed at the indestructibility of most engines and I doubt 500ml of trans fluid (which is a form of oil anyway) will have much effect in a 4litre sump of normal oil.
Sure if you were going to be racing it in Paris-Dakar then that'd be one thing, but a few days of daily driving should be fine.
Hen
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Armidale
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January 2003
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 07:13
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Transmission oil or transmission fluid?
If oil, I wouldn't be too concerned - just a bit light on soap for engines is all.
If fluid (the thin, red stuff for auto transmissions), that might be a bit more serious, but its is still only 12.5% of the sumps volume (assuming 4 litre sump). In a Starlet round the city for a few days, I don't think I'd be too worried either.
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 12:30
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it will be fine, only half a litre. having said that it takes only 10 mins to change it so i would.
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new castle
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July 2005
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 12:58
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assuming you get it all out it should be fine really
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tallahassee FL usOFa
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May 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Tue, 09 August 2005 15:14
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it's fine, don't do anything out of the ordinary about it.
if you used something that had no lubricating properties at all, or wasn't petroleum based, like water or linseed oil, then I'd be worried & dump it ASAP.
also, if you were already experimenting with a straight 60, and then added some 100 something gear oil, then it's time to thin it out.
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Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Wed, 10 August 2005 04:16
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thats why i asked because i cant change it till the weekend. I have full time work, and the tafe at night, then when i get home i live in units there fore there is not much light for where i can change the oil at night anyway. (minimal light and no power points) + i dont really wanna get under a car at 10pm at night! so long as she is ok till the weekend then all is fine.
cheers for the replys
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East Maitland NSW
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December 2004
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:38
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Transmission oil and fluid is the same thing. It wont go soapy.. that only happens if it mixed with water. If it is a small amount dont stress because your motor will be fine.
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Wed, 10 August 2005 09:54
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drain it before you drive it. atleast when someone ask you what you engine stall converter cuts in you can say 7500rpm!lol
or you could call your engine a turbo 350!lol or tell them its had a shift kit fitted inside the motor!lol or tell them you added the tranny fluid cause you have heavy duty valvebodies!lol or you could fit a B&M shifter to the rocker covers!oh i could go on and on.
mick
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Armidale
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January 2003
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Wed, 10 August 2005 23:39
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| Meat_rack wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:38 |
Transmission oil and fluid is the same thing.
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Sorry, but not so...
Transmission fluid is thin, red stuff (eg Dexron III) for automatics.
Transmission (gearbox) oil is thicker, brown stuff (eg Castrol Syntrax 75W-90) for manuals and diffs etc.
You can use fluid in a manual if you want to, but I don't think oil would go too well in an auto!
A small amount of either should do little harm in an engine, but I think oil would be a preferable mistake to fluid.
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Thu, 11 August 2005 00:20
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My thoughts on the naming of gearbox / transmission oil / fluid.
Transmission Fluid - Light weight Auto gearbox lube. Has the Dexron-III series of ratings.
Transmission Oil - Medium weight Auto gearbox lube as used in larger pieces of machinery e.g. earthmoving machinery. Has the TO series of API ratings.
Gearbox Oil - As used in manual gearboxes. Has the API GL series of ratings.
You see the API ratings actually have meaning behind them... e.g.
GL = Gear Lube
TO = Transmission Oil
CI = Compression Ignition (Diesel)
SL = I don't know... Sump Lube?
The second letter on the petrol oils increases when they create a new rating method (e.g. SF, SG, SJ, SL) unlike the others which just get a number whacked after them (e.g. GL-4, GL-5)
Anyways regardless of which one you put in you should change your oil ASAP.
Crankcase lube has a totally different additive package to auto trans lube and the additives in your auto trans lube could knock out some of the important parts of the crankcase lube's additive package.
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Thu, 11 August 2005 01:42
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You should be able to run the car just fine in the short term, but as toobs said, the additives could go whack - meaning that if you run it hard (ie raise the oil temperature) your oil could unduly lose viscosity (thin out). Just drive gently and change the oil as soon as possible!
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Sydney NSW
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July 2004
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Thu, 11 August 2005 02:21
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I recall a mate being advised to run some ATF in his engine as a dodgy quick fix for a blown engine, so he could sell it, but the condition was that he sell it FAST, as this was detramental to an already quite rooted engine.
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Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Thu, 11 August 2005 04:38
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doing this weekend saturday.
im not too worried though its only a 97 starlet motors cost not that much! + it does not get thrashed its quite babied, i thrash the mr2 not the poor little starlet. thanks for the advice, this will teach me to look in light before i do stupid things
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Newcastle, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: stupidity but is it bad???
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Thu, 11 August 2005 07:24
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Some people even use the stuff to clean their engine out, as a sort of engine oil flush, less harsh than using kerosene. Shouldn't harm it if you only put that much in, just change it within the next week.
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