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Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 09:13
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Hello All. I have just joined this site after buying myself an '84 MA61 (Manual, silver paint with blue/grey interior and it's the model with all the power stuff and sunroof in case anyone is curious)
After driving an Auto VS Commodore (my dads) for the last 2 years I am loving it but the car has a few issues that need work.
For the moment I need:
-New front brake flex lines
-Driveshaft centre bearing
-front left outer tie rod
-2 new tyres
-rear shock bushings
I also want a new diff or diff centre.
If any other MA61 owners or other forums members could suggest some good places to source the parts from, it would be a huge help as the prices around here are not good ($265 EACH for replacement Eagers which are the only tyre they can get!!!)
Alternatively If anyone here has the parts I can pay cash or swap for other MA61 spares. I have many assorted spares which came with the car including some interior trim panels, spare sunroof, wheel centre caps, AC condenser+Facia, AFM's and much more.....Suffice to say I have more spares than can fit in a single MA61 if you are after some rare Item chances are I will have it so don't hesitate to ask me about it.
BTW I am Located at Bega in far south east NSW (halfway between Syd and Melb)
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 09:28
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Nice, you got the sunroof version.
Quite rare.
You still have the 5M-E though 
Search high and low on this site.
I'd confidently say EVERYTHING MA61 related is covered.
There is even a tyre thread about 10 thread below this one.
Welcome
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 10:20
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Thanks for your feedback Cruzida, I am aware of the tyre thread and am currently in the process of reading all other MA61 threads, I was actually hoping for other MA61 owners to post their sources for buying parts so that I can carry out further enquiries of my own.
It would also be great if anyone who knows could tell me how much I should reasonably expect to pay for the parts I have listed
I was also hoping some forum members might have these parts lying around
At least give me some places I can quote prices from to show the local guys that their markups are ridiculous
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 10:34
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New brake lines can come from any auto store
PBR make them, or Protek, I think.
MA61 front brake lines are in 2 parts. Body to strut and strut to caliper.
Each half will be about $20-$30 each.
New driveshaft centre bearing can be gotten at most autopart stores, or any bearing shop.
Not sure whether the shaft has to be rebalanced after installation though.
Front left outer tierod can be gotten at any autoparts store.
Probably in the vicinity of $50, don't quote me though.
Tyres you know.
Rear shock bushings come with new shocks, or alternatively most Nolathane companies make them (SuperPro, Noltec, Lovells etc)
And lastly
http://cygnusx1.net/supra/library/TSRM_MKII
The Bible.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 15:56
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Welcome  And show us some piccies of your car on the MA61 enthusiasts thread. It needs reviving anyways...
Yian
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 19:28
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I'm too drunk too reply 
But welcome to the ma61 owners club!!!
I'll will hopefully pm you regrading interior pieces when i sober up 
Any info/questions/etc, dont hesistate to put into the ma61 dedicated thread.
Cheers wif teh booze,
James.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:02
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Drop a 2JZ innit.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 28 July 2005 23:53
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$265 for Eagers!? I best price i was quoted was $160 each F&B'd for 225/60R14. Although i live in Melbourne i still think you can get a better price...
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:10
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welcome...  u got an MA61 the same colours as mine (exterior: silver and Interior: blue !!!)
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 01:18
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| Supra6 wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 09:53 |
$265 for Eagers!? I best price i was quoted was $160 each F&B'd for 225/60R14. Although i live in Melbourne i still think you can get a better price...
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Yer thats a little expensive. Unless there is only 1 tyre place where you live, shop around.
And Supra6, check out the Vic section and come to a meet sometime.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 02:49
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Welcome, and just get the inevitable done. Ditch the 5M-E in favour of any number of better engines !!!!
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 02:51
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fark, at that price drive to melb/syd/canberra and get some tyres fitted there
with the rear shocks, just get some new shocks. I'm assuming yours are 21 years old, and probably time you got some new ones
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:46
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| draven wrote on Fri, 29 July 2005 12:51 |
with the rear shocks, just get some new shocks. I'm assuming yours are 21 years old, and probably time you got some new ones
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 21 year old shock
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:47
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meh don't be too alarmed, i replaced my 19 year old ones last year after 40500km the front oem oil filled struts had no rebound woot.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 03:49
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HAHA  i changed 21 year old shocks and the valves inside where stuffed and they pretty much did the same thing!
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 29 July 2005 08:11
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I changed mine and they spat out oil everywhere. The fact they had no rebound whatsoever was to be expected Needless to say, car handles a lot better.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Mon, 01 August 2005 01:03
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Yeah, your right - i don't get out as much as i should. I was at the Classic Celica Show back in March though... but haven't been out since then.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 02 August 2005 03:04
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just dynoed a ma70 supra 3ltr auto, pod filter and exhaust, 141kw at the wheels.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 02 August 2005 03:34
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| 170bhp wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 13:04 |
just dynoed a ma70 supra 3ltr auto, pod filter and exhaust, 141kw at the wheels.
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Eh? Whats that gotta do with this thread?
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Wed, 03 August 2005 15:54
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Hey again everyone and thanks for the info, I haven't been able to check the progress of this thread for a few days and there have been a few responses.
To the people suggesting to "get a 2jz" or similar, If I had that kind of cash I probably wouldn't have got the Ma61, which I plan to drive (with the 5ME) until I get more funds, for the moment though, my priority is getting the car as good as I can mechanically, then worry about the new engine and paint job.
I was suprised however after hearing so many bad reports about the 5ME that my car can keep up with my Dads '97 VS Commodore (Auto)in a straight line, which is still pretty slow I know but is pretty good for and '84 model 2.8 vs a '97 model 3.8.
I will try to post some photo's of my car soon. It looks good as in digital pics but not so great in real life at the moment heheh.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 04 August 2005 12:25
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i look forward to seeing the pics and welcome.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Fri, 05 August 2005 01:34
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| #Fiend# wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 01:54 |
To the people suggesting to "get a 2jz" or similar, If I had that kind of cash I probably wouldn't have got the Ma61
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Aww thats a little disconcerting. So not really a fan of the MA61, more its just what you could afford then? Not that I suppose theres anything wrong with that.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sat, 06 August 2005 08:52
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I love the MA61, it's just if I had the money for a 2JZ conversion straight up and wanted a really fast car I just couldn't resist an RX7.
rest assured I am a toyota fan though, first car was a '79 corolla and it was my favourite car I have driven until I got the MA61 (other cars I have owned were for practical reasons)
I think if I won a million dollars, I would keep the MA61 and make it into a fast but comfortable daily driver and get an REALLY fast RX7 for weekend etc.....then again a porche 930 turbo would be tempting lol
I chose the MA61 because I was origanally after another '75-'80ish corolla which I planned to do up gradually into a tarmac rally style rolla. After looking around at prices I found that they are now getting hard to find (except for ones with chassis rust)and the ones that are in good condidtion are owned by people who appreciate them and don't want to sell.
When I saw my MA61 for sale at a good price I decided to start off with a decent handling car with a good interior, now that I have it though I like it more than I thought I would and can't belive how ahead of it's time it seems compared to some newer cars.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sat, 06 August 2005 12:23
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I too have just joined the ranks of MA61 owners. I still need to travel interstate to pick it up, but the car is as good as mine.
Ive always wanted one of these things since I first test drove one about 10 years ago, but I couldn't sell my car at the time to buy it.
now the saving for engine conversion and paint begins
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sun, 07 August 2005 01:21
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lol nice one mate still the 1jz/1uz swap?
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sun, 07 August 2005 02:03
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| #Fiend# wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 01:54 |
...To the people suggesting to "get a 2jz" or similar, If I had that kind of cash I probably wouldn't have got the Ma61, which I plan to drive (with the 5ME) until I get more funds, for the moment though, my priority is getting the car as good as I can mechanically, then worry about the new engine and paint job...
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What ever you do... DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE 5ME. I know this from personal experence as many Melbourne owners can vouch for this.
Good luck on your endeavor in fixing the 5ME...
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Sun, 07 August 2005 02:42
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| TRD_Supra wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 11:21 |
lol nice one mate still the 1jz/1uz swap?
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Yep probably 1jz or 1uz but anything decent ( and Toyota ) for the right price will be considered, as long as its manual, even the 2jzge has a fair bit of go.
Wont be for a while though, handling and stopping is first, then the power.
Luckily the engine was recoed a few years back so it should hold on for some time and I wont be forced into a swap earlier than I have planned.
Cheers
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sun, 07 August 2005 14:15
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| ZZT231 wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 12:03 |
DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE 5ME
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That is good advice.
To all still retaining the 5m-e, drop the oil out of your engine and rev the tits out of it until it blows up. Then you shall be safe.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Sun, 07 August 2005 15:34
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| ViPeR_NiPPleX wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 00:15 |
| ZZT231 wrote on Sun, 07 August 2005 12:03 |
DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE 5ME
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That is good advice.
To all still retaining the 5m-e, drop the oil out of your engine and rev the tits out of it until it blows up. Then you shall be safe.
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Don't blow it up just spend money on the 5ME just don't go overboard as it's not a bad engine of it's day, but not a good one in comparison to modern engines.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 09:18
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I never said I was going to spend any money on the 5M-E, I'll probably just drive it until it either dies or I have enough$$$ for a conversion.
As I said earlier though, it's not like the 5M-E is as bad as everyone here seems to think, you have all obviously never driven any other '81 model engines of similar capacity.
It's also better IMO than the shitty Camry engine in my mates '93 celica SX, which cost considerably more than my car.
If you've ever driven and old early 80's commodore six you'll know what I'm talking about.
That said, I am not claiming that the 5M-E is a peformance engine of any kind, but I doub't I'll be dropping in a 2jz with a big single either.
I can't undersatnd why some people seem to think it's unnaceptable to even drive the car with the 5ME, I've only had the car about a month for chrissakes!! I also don't think I need 400hp at the wheels to have fun (245/50's and rwd handling let me keep up with all the ricers around here anyway even with the standard motor and if I wanna go sideways there are plenty of dirt roads around)
My long term plan is to get whatever engine I decide (after researching) is the best base for an (N/A) project to increase power to about 190-220hp at the flywheel
My reasoning for this is to avoid the extra cost and complextity (and maintenence) of a turbo set up, and also avoid destroying the driveline all the time as I want the car as a daily driver.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 09:53
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Nope, even the Camry engine in the Celica can hold a candle to the 5ME with an easy 100kW versus teh 103kW 5ME.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 13:20
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Outright maximum KW output is not everything the (comparitively) torquey 5M feels much more sporty to me than the camry motor (on the road they are almost even with the celica getting a better start due to lower gear ratio (and less shagged diff) but the MA61 slowly pulling it back until about 130ish where they even out again). The MA61 can also easily outrun the celica in the twisties due to much earlier power down
I've also driven one of those new ricey looking celicas with like 140kw or something and it was shit to drive unless you were trying to drive as fast as you can.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 13:23
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The 5SFE makes its 100kW easy too, which is why it feels just as bad. The difference is probably more that it weighs more also.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 13:41
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Maybe I should clarify things a little here:
-I know that the 5M-E is very shit technically and especially on paper when compared to later model engines, even for a Single cammer the power output of 103kw is not very impressive
-I have never had the pleasure of driving a turbo car or a v8 (except for an old vb commodore v8 which felt slower than the 5M)
-Where I live there are 2 R33 Gts t's (one owned by a chick who inherited it when her bf was killed in a bike crash and one owned by a wanker who can't drive and who's parents paid for the lot), the rest of the performace car scence consists of:
-A pintara with an rb20det
-a clapped out early 90's NA Zed with a broken front bar and a HUGE gt car wing
-a few (mainly stock) Rex's owned by older guys
-Lots of VL's and VS's with "2.5inch cat back"
Because of this, I am not desperate for lots of power just yet (in fact I worry constantly about getting speeding fines because I am always driving too fast), Even standard the MA seems to want to cruise at around 75-80 in town and around 130ish on the highway just to keep it in the meat of the torque so I'd hate to find out what speed I would cruise around at if I had a turbo.
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Tue, 09 August 2005 14:10
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i know what you're saying dude.
i went from an ra60 (67kw ) to the 5me ma61 and it felt great! it didn't mind eating a commodore or ford from the same era. i've even kept up with an old hq v8 of some sort (but i did get beaten by an 80s excel on a bad day :S)
mind you, i went for a ride in a 5mge (with 2.5" zorst) supra the other day, and it felt great. heaps better than the 5me. and it's the engine that was destined for the ma61 too.
mind you, when you take a 7mgte (or jz of some sort) supra for a ride, you'll have a great time  its a fairly easy swap (so i've read and been told) and going from a 5me supra to even a stock 7mgte is fantastic. just fix the headgasket first 
post some pics of your car too
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Re: Attention MA61 owners!! (another has joined your ranks)
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Thu, 11 August 2005 08:16
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holy shit didn't realise it would be that huge
at least it works
will post some more later after I take some more pics on low quality and crop them down lol
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