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 pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 01:32
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im looking for information on pod filters for my st162 3sge celica eg. brands and types that would fit
cheers
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
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June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 01:46
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K&N extreme pod filter
or Green Cotton filters
dont bother with Apexi or HKS or whatever
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Adelaide
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August 2005
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 02:38
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cheers mate where can i buy the filter here in adelaide
also do you have a round about price
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QLD, Gold Coast
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February 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 02:43
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Autobarn has k&n extreme top pods for $79
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 02:43
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is there really that much difference in pod filters.
i bought my car with an apexi one already in it, would there really be a differnce between mine and say a K&N pod filter??
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QLD, Gold Coast
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February 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 03:22
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price for starters, not much difference in power if car is stock, airflow might vary but wouldn't be far off each other.
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 03:42
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get a dry element.
k&n are ok but dont over oil it!
but after awhile they make the afm dirty
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
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June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 04:02
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^^^ I dont think it dirty's the AFM, but i dont use one anyways so it doesnt matter!
As for where you can get! can go through Car Torque Products, which are a distributor of Green Cotton, they are located along Little Kind William st.
K&N, the cheapest is to go to O.G. Speed shop, located on *you guessed it* O.G. Road!!
I personally use K&N as recommended by my tuner, but than again...its up to you!
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Location:
Adelaide
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July 2002
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 05:07
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and if you need an adapter to fit to the AFM you can use one for a VL commodore  costs about $10 for a plastic one from autobarn bit more for a steel one.
i personally dont see the point in paying the MASSIVE premium just so i can have a kool HKS or APEXi sticker, mind you if i'd spent a ridiculous amount of money ie $15k on my motor and the guy who built it said use K&N i probably would  but for a stocko motor i'd just go with a mid priced generic brand, or if you happen to get a few bucks back on ur tax grab a K&N
good luck
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 05:19
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oil filled filters do fuck afm, in fact it is advised that you don't use them on the NEW HFV6 commodores as they fuck them.
Oil filled elements/pods are also illegal in NSW atleast, NSW EPA regs means that a pod has to be enclosed (or under 90 decibels) and have a dry filtering element.
Not that you care, but when it comes to being defected for narky things get a cop in a bad mood or if your stupid enough to give him lip and they can defect you for it.
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 06:31
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pods are pods.
the difference is dry vs oil.
A wet/oil type will cause gum to stick to the afm and as the pod gets hot so does the oil with alot of people who have fwd cars and just have it in the middle of the engine bay.That oil gets sucked into the intake via "afm". So every time you press the pedal it would suck more oil in and depending on how much open the flap is. the residue will get stuck.
this is the only reason why i use a japanese dry type brand. it costs the same if you think about it.
japanese kit - $150 (average) includes fittings, hoses, intake tube, brackets, and sometimes heatsheild/cold air intakes. Very low or No maintanance req.
k&n kit - $80 filter in a box. + $30-40 for recharge kit. $10-30 Additional fittings/Adaptors, modifying of airtemp sensor will require drilling a hole into your current intake or using a new intake tube.
it all adds up. one brand is tested. the other claims power
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:02
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| SW20R wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 16:31 |
it all adds up. one brand is tested. the other claims power
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and chances are your engine won't make that much more power anyway 
modifying the stock airbox for a better inlet will likely yeild same results for cost of a holesaw and some PVC pipe...
but of course it's not as hektik as a pod bro.. 
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:09
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| jonchai wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 11:46 |
K&N extreme pod filter
or Green Cotton filters
dont bother with Apexi or HKS or whatever
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Why?
From what i've read Apexi filters are the best you can get. Personally air filters isn't a part that i would go tight ass on. If you get a cheap one it'll most likely be kinda restricive or let in heaps of dirt. When i got my car it had a cheap one on it and you could see little holes developing in it. So i bought an Apexi one, it seems awesome to me. But yeah get it heatshielded. I did a home job on mine (nothing special) and i reckon it made a difference.
Good luck
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:19
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| oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:02 |
| SW20R wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 16:31 |
it all adds up. one brand is tested. the other claims power
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and chances are your engine won't make that much more power anyway
modifying the stock airbox for a better inlet will likely yeild same results for cost of a holesaw and some PVC pipe...
but of course it's not as hektik as a pod bro..
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Yes, Pods wont give you 200HP. I've only got one due to the fact that servicing the stock box on the mr2 is a bitch in a engine with no space whatsoever. As to my qoutation above they reffered to brand names A.. then K. in perspective.
As you can see its very toight! if I had the stock box in there and everytime I had to get more space i'd need to remove the small body panel.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:22
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why not run a snorkel
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 08:05
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| SW20R wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:19 |
Yes, Pods wont give you 200HP. I've only got one due to the fact that servicing the stock box on the mr2 is a bitch in a engine with no space whatsoever. As to my qoutation above they reffered to brand names A.. then K. in perspective.
As you can see its very toight! if I had the stock box in there and everytime I had to get more space i'd need to remove the small body panel.
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there will always be ppl thatr actually need them due to other issues
the vast majority of pods are there "cos they are sik"
but thats just me
i had a gokart sized unifilter on my 4K, simply cos i didn't have time to make up an airbox, and even then, you can't fit much filter in a space that is maybe 10x10x15cm....
snorkel eh.. hmmmm
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
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June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 08:43
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$15k is nothing on an engine!!!!!
still dont believe that apexi outdo Green or K&N
not all FWD cars have filter in the middle of engine bay (you tool) *award for stupid comment of the day
pod filter ,made a total of 4kw at the wheel in my atmo car
there is a reason why many race teams use K&N and Green Cotton
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I supported Toymods
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Location:
Adelaide
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August 2005
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 11:44
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i was thinking about getting a pod filter cover out of a 91 lancer...just in case the boys in blue decided to look under the hood it'll pretty much look like a stock box.
then a cold intake pipe should be hard to mount of that
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 12:35
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| celica86 wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 11:32 |
im looking for information on pod filters for my st162 3sge celica eg. brands and types that would fit
cheers
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so are you trying to replace the air filter box? or the filter element itself?
or is it just for looks?
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 14:32
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SW20R: I have after dyno sheet if it helps!!
nah look, i was the the one that spent $15k on the motor and the tuner was well aware of how specific i wanted the motor to look - standard. when the computer went in, there were several extra wires (hardly noticable) but there was no longer a need for an AFM. Brenton (tuner) asked whether i wanted it removed as a pod filter would give you a power increase and the lack of AFM would lesser restriction. i was a little hessitant coz of the pod filter look (read:defectable) but he said he'll do a before and after and see if there was difference. there was, so i kept the pod on. yes it was the same dyno/tuner/day/with prob a few hours in between to fit the pod.
the biggest diference i noticed was how unbelievably quicker the car revved. it was definately an improvement, as i was skeptical of a pod before, now i fully stand by their performance claim. And yes it sits behind the battery but it has 2 cold air ducts from the front-most of the car
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 14:47
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so the pod went on at the same time as the AFM being removed?
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Wed, 10 August 2005 15:38
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| jonchai wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 00:02 |
SW20R: I have after dyno sheet if it helps!!
nah look, i was the the one that spent $15k on the motor and the tuner was well aware of how specific i wanted the motor to look - standard. when the computer went in, there were several extra wires (hardly noticable) but there was no longer a need for an AFM. Brenton (tuner) asked whether i wanted it removed as a pod filter would give you a power increase and the lack of AFM would lesser restriction. i was a little hessitant coz of the pod filter look (read:defectable) but he said he'll do a before and after and see if there was difference. there was, so i kept the pod on. yes it was the same dyno/tuner/day/with prob a few hours in between to fit the pod.
the biggest diference i noticed was how unbelievably quicker the car revved. it was definately an improvement, as i was skeptical of a pod before, now i fully stand by their performance claim. And yes it sits behind the battery but it has 2 cold air ducts from the front-most of the car
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Hey, is this the Johnny I go to uni with? I thought you 'only' spent about 6k on your engine! (still more then I paid for my car!) Can I have a look at your setup of the pod filter some time?
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Location:
Adelaide - Race Central
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Thu, 11 August 2005 02:42
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yeah man its me!!
Cars in the paint shop atm, i'll drive it to uni sometime and you'll have the chance to see it than
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Location:
Adelaide
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August 2005
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Thu, 11 August 2005 03:52
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| oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 22:05 |
| celica86 wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 11:32 |
im looking for information on pod filters for my st162 3sge celica eg. brands and types that would fit
cheers
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so are you trying to replace the air filter box? or the filter element itself?
or is it just for looks?
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im going to do away with both and fit a pod filter and manufacture a vent or bonnet scoop to get some cold air to it
definitely not for looks just looking for that little bit more as we all do
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Thu, 11 August 2005 03:58
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have you thought about just using a larger airbox with a bigger flat panel filter..
heck of a lot cheaper, looks factory, and you can still use a vent or scoop for cold air
commonwhore airboxes are pretty large (around A4 size vertically i think) and have a large cheap filter.. the whole shebang from holden is like $30-40....
but if you really want a pod, by all means go for it.. but they are a cumbersome shape, and the box you need around it will take up more space than a flat filter anyway...
my 5c
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Location:
Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Fri, 12 August 2005 08:37
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| jonchai wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 00:32 |
SW20R: I have after dyno sheet if it helps!!
nah look, i was the the one that spent $15k on the motor and the tuner was well aware of how specific i wanted the motor to look - standard. when the computer went in, there were several extra wires (hardly noticable) but there was no longer a need for an AFM. Brenton (tuner) asked whether i wanted it removed as a pod filter would give you a power increase and the lack of AFM would lesser restriction. i was a little hessitant coz of the pod filter look (read:defectable) but he said he'll do a before and after and see if there was difference. there was, so i kept the pod on. yes it was the same dyno/tuner/day/with prob a few hours in between to fit the pod.
the biggest diference i noticed was how unbelievably quicker the car revved. it was definately an improvement, as i was skeptical of a pod before, now i fully stand by their performance claim. And yes it sits behind the battery but it has 2 cold air ducts from the front-most of the car
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Just thought i'd mention something... When cars are run on the dyno, they have the bonnet open, and a huge fan rushing very cool air into the engine bay...
Close the bonnet and have the engine running for quite a while and u'll find that a lot of hot air gets trapped and therefore sucked into the engine, so although it might have a better kw rating on the dyno, out on the road i reckon personally it will be a different story...
Just my 2 cents
I'm taking my car on the dyno to have it tuned soon, and yeah the guy was recommending to keep my panel filter in and not to bother with the Pod filter, As yeah toyota designed the box for a reason .
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Fri, 12 August 2005 12:02
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| TRD-ST162 wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 18:37 |
As yeah toyota designed the box for a reason .
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i dont think toyota had the funds to just throw away into putting pod filters into everyone of their cars, just thinking they'd go for the cheaper option rather then the performance option...then again i dont work for/run toyota so i might be wrong
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Location:
QLD, Gold Coast
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February 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Fri, 12 August 2005 12:51
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well i think the reason toyota never came out with pods for 3sge is because they are illegal, plain and simple.
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Location:
sydney
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August 2004
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Re: pod filter for 3sge
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Sat, 13 August 2005 02:09
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Put the pod filter infront of your fan ( Forced Induction  )
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