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1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 03:14
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Back in 1979 Toyota showed off their Cressida concept car equipped with a twin rotor rotary engine.
I have been trying to find pics & details for some time now & would like to ask if anyone knows of any info & has any pics of this car.......???
REgards
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melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 04:19
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sounds interesting.... but imagine that  wouldnt move very fast in a quick time
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 04:22
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not many jap cars in 1979 did move that fast compared to our cars today mang. 
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melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 04:43
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yeh i now mang....
haha didnt think many ppl used the wourd mang.. i use it all the time but i stop myself when using the forums...
its just like the kingswood that had a 12a or something put into it.. i think it was a kingswood meh someshit... they were planning it as a concept if i remember rite
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wodonga
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January 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 05:18
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It was called a Roadpacer and had a 13B in it
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melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 05:20
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12a 13b... ehh close enough
but i am liking the sound of this cressida and im in the process of searching for info.
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wodonga
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January 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 08:41
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Toyrotor, What do you drive... Im thinking of 13B'ing my KE20... I know its off topic but, im just interested.
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Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 08:50
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love your sig, and then the topic of this thread.
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c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Sun, 07 August 2005 23:22
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I got all excited when I heard about a rotary cressida... 
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Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Mon, 08 August 2005 02:26
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got all excited when I heard about a rotary cressida..
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and I got depressed...
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Mon, 08 August 2005 04:09
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Mercedes attempted a 5 rotor engine in the W116... went like shit off a shovel but got around the bock before needing a refuel...
Theres a very small number that still do exhist but good luck finding one you can afford within this lifetime...
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Mon, 08 August 2005 11:06
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| 79rollaboy wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 14:09 |
Mercedes attempted a 5 rotor engine in the W116... went like shit off a shovel but got around the bock before needing a refuel...
Theres a very small number that still do exhist but good luck finding one you can afford within this lifetime...
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Wrong.
Mercedes did a 3-rotor & 4-rotor C-111 concept car back in 69-70.
CLOWN...... If it has a rotary engine, I'll make an exception. I'd even own a super rare Citrons GS-Birotor. Damned ugly car, but its unique engine adds character.
robRA40.... I read a short piece on the Tokyo motor show & it stated that Toyota showed a Cressida with a Wankel engine. No mention of a 13B.
KEbluey..... I drive a 20B (triple rotor-twin turbo) powered "Eunos Cosmo". Sorry, but most Toyota's are too bland & boring for my liking. To add more mystery to this. Toyota wanted to join the rotary game in the early 70's but would have been years behind Mazda & Nissan who where almost ready to introduce their 1lt Datsun Sunny.
Toyota's idea was to simply buy Mazda but the Japanese Gov prevented this forcing Toyota to go it alone. The suspicious part to this is that Toyota used Mazda engines as their experimental power plants for rotary development.
Although I have a sneaking suspicion that under the Toyota carby & plumbing lied a 13B Mazda engine I need to find out more on this venture.
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Bayside Melbourne.
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May 2003
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c'town, NSW
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Mon, 08 August 2005 22:50
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| Toyrotor wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 21:06 |
KEbluey..... I drive a 20B (triple rotor-twin turbo) powered "Eunos Cosmo". Sorry, but most Toyota's are too bland & boring for my liking. To add more mystery to this. Toyota wanted to join the rotary game in the early 70's but would have been years behind Mazda & Nissan who where almost ready to introduce their 1lt Datsun Sunny.
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lol, whats with the wank fest? who cares
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NSW Engadine
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 05:52
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| Toyrotor wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 21:06 |
| 79rollaboy wrote on Mon, 08 August 2005 14:09 |
Mercedes attempted a 5 rotor engine in the W116... went like shit off a shovel but got around the bock before needing a refuel...
Theres a very small number that still do exhist but good luck finding one you can afford within this lifetime...
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Wrong.
Mercedes did a 3-rotor & 4-rotor C-111 concept car back in 69-70.
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Meh, Who cares... Same story different engine & model...
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 09:34
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ha ha ha .
I see the anal retards have come out.
I'll search for myself, thanks for those that offered.
Oh, Dont take offence to the Cressida branded a boring, bland, typical Toyota. Its not your fault you have no taste. Ask any journo what Toyota stand for. Just make sure he isn't wearing a cardigan first...........
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Location:
Adelaide
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July 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 11:53
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^^ you drive a rotary, congatulations 
you listed a sera as having style! you my friend are a little ! they are pretty much a paseo with scissor doors
SIMDIGGITDAWG is right, the cressidas do handle well and are luxurious, heck i nearly bought one i liked my mates that much!
it would seem that you are the anal retard
putting rotors into toyotas is 15 year old kid ideas...
as for toyota and cardigans, they are the richest car manufacturer in the world by miles, they can buy more cardigans than u have ever fucking seen
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 12:10
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and from this angle you can see the "american shitbox" theme
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WA
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May 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 15:16
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bahahahah
dont know why u guys are bagging out the Cosmo, they are f*ckin cool cars.
Cressidas are fantastic too,
but, really, unless uv got a big-hp motor in them (preferably something with alot of bottom end), it really is just an under powered car. Its like old commodores - laughlably underpowered for their size. Oh wait, maybe its not like a commdore - l0l.
Sorry, i deserve to be slapped for that comparison.
Anyway, Cressidas have 4 doors and Cosmos have fewer. So its unfair to compare them
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Tue, 09 August 2005 23:28
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| Toyrotor wrote on Tue, 09 August 2005 19:34 |
Oh, Dont take offence to the Cressida branded a boring, bland, typical Toyota. Its not your fault you have no taste.
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I see you just love to make friends...
If you don't like the cressida, fine, but making unfounded baseless statements about a car which you know nothing about, is rediculous.
May I suggest you do a little 'searching' before you start bagging out certain toyota cars on a toyota forum 
You might learn something, and put that gray matter to good use rather than for creating flame bait on a forum.
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as for toyota and cardigans, they are the richest car manufacturer in the world by miles, they can buy more cardigans than u have ever fucking seen
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LOL
[Updated on: Tue, 09 August 2005 23:40]
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Location:
Osama's hideout
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February 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 03:20
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cressida's are boring huh
seen any street tyred cosmos running in the tens lately?
i love rotary's, my tuner is a rotary specialist.
its all a mater of opinion, i think the cosmo looks like a half sucked mango. they look even worse with a set of 20's put on them.
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Bayside Melbourne.
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May 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 07:39
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You've gotta remember that not all Cosmos were triple rotor 20B's AFAIK only half were... the other half were 13B turbos... weighing in at over 1.6 tonne you'd hope they'd have a bit of power to haul that fat arse around.
IF we were to be doing comparisons we should compare apples with apples. The Cosmo was sold in Japan. The Cressida was an export model and wasn't sold in Japan. The Japanese variants were called MarkII, Cresta and Chaser. They came with different engines, one being the 1JZGTE.
Compare the 1JZGTE powered MarkII to the 20B powered Cosmo and you've got yourself a pretty even match. The 1J MarkII would weigh in at around 1.5 tonne and had 208kW... The 1.6 tonne 20B Cosmo had around 220kW? Not sure of that figure but it's not that much more powerful and weighs more.
If you were then to compare the 1J MarkII to the 13B Cosmo then I think you'd have Toyot coming out on top.
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melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 08:22
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yeah man there fully teh shitzor....
there big,ugly,smelly, and drink like no else.. sounds like the drivers.. hhahaa
nah i joke boys i love cressidas, my grandpa offered me one but i was 16 at the time so i wasnt aloud to have it
but they are a nice car... and yes they do go well with mods!
one of the future cars i plan to have
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 10:35
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[quote title=SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:39]
Compare the 1JZGTE powered MarkII to the 20B powered Cosmo and you've got yourself a pretty even match. The 1J MarkII would weigh in at around 1.5 tonne and had 208kW... The 1.6 tonne 20B Cosmo had around 220kW? Not sure of that figure but it's not that much more powerful and weighs more.
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How much torque do each make?>
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Bayside Melbourne.
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May 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 10:44
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Not sure on that one... I'm going off figures from memory and i could only remember the power. Torque would probably go in favour of the rotor. But I don't know.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Canberra
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October 2004
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 12:33
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| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:39 |
You've gotta remember that not all Cosmos were triple rotor 20B's AFAIK only half were...
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Don't quote me but I think the ECCS Cosmo was the only one with the 20b. ECCS = top of range with pretty much electric everything!
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Wed, 10 August 2005 12:37
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I was talking about the MarkII not the Soarer... the MarkII weighs in at 1540kg with the above power and torque figures.
The MarkII attains 13.9L/100km fuel consumption while the 20b Cosmo does 16.4L/100km.
The 13b Cosmo puts out 169kW power and 294Nm torque. It does better on fuel at 14.5L/100km but still doesn't top the 1J in ecconomy.
MarkII = 65L fuel tank... Cosmo = 85L tank. Says it all donut?
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 13:42
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this is a little off topic but has anyone here driven a ford probe (that pic made me ask this question). theres one that lives up the road from me and it kinda just look likes fords version of the celica. but dont they have a slightly bigger motor (2.6lt V6 i think) just wondering if anyone driven one and know how well they go??
i dont really know why everyone creams there pants when they hear the word "rotories" (most of my freinds are teenagers, that might explain it) i dont think i'd ever buy a rotory just due to the fact i'd have to find some specialist anything something went wrong with the engine... and if there so good how come they never really went into mass production?
i'll prob cop alot of shit from the stupidity that i just wrote
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: 1979 Tokyo motor show - Cressida
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Wed, 10 August 2005 22:46
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| 74gt wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 22:33 |
| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:39 |
You've gotta remember that not all Cosmos were triple rotor 20B's AFAIK only half were...
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Don't quote me but I think the ECCS Cosmo was the only one with the 20b. ECCS = top of range with pretty much electric everything!
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nup theres two with it look at the site i posted, oh and for the weight of the Mark2 are we talking JZX90 or JZX100 stuff it i'll put em both up, and yes they are way lighter than both the others.
http://imports.motortraders.net.au/imports/spec.as p?id=3243
1450kg yay JZX90
http://imports.motortraders.net.au/imports/spec.as p?id=3226
1470kg yay. JZX100
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