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microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 12:15
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which management is better for a 2jzgte
Ive been told a haltech and been told a microtech?
Microtechs ive been told are easier to wire up but my mate uses one and want something different
any other managements i should consider 
Anyone with prices
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Adelaide
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November 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 13:08
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 21:45 |
which management is better for a 2jzgte
Ive been told a haltech and been told a microtech?
Microtechs ive been told are easier to wire up but my mate uses one and want something different
any other managements i should consider
Anyone with prices
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if your friend is running a Microtech and it does what you want for your engine, don't disregard it just because your mates got one. Who cares if your brand of ECU is the same?
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:06
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I want to be different. If I did the same thing It would seem to me to be doing the same thing and I want it to be my choice not tagging along
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I supported Toymods
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:18
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That has the be the dumbest reasoning ever.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:25
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no its not stupid you must be unable to be different.
Its just boring to follow the leader as you obviously do. Cant you think for yourself.
Why do something my mate has done.
Its my car not a copy of someone else's.
I want more power and more differences so its my car not a clone
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:28
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Does his car have round wheels? Better be different, I hear isosceles triangles are just out on the market, better get them before anyone else does.
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Wollongong
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January 2005
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:53
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go MoTec or Autronic... get a real ECU 
or better yet, get a megasquirt
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 14:56
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megasquirt huh. I know your pullin me leg but whats that mean, neva heard it
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 17:38
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:56 |
megasquirt huh. I know your pullin me leg but whats that mean, neva heard it
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get farked...
i run my car with it
get off your arse and search 
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I Supported Toymods
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Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 17:59
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:06 |
I want to be different. If I did the same thing It would seem to me to be doing the same thing and I want it to be my choice not tagging along
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Run it on the stock ECU 
Now, who's gunna think of that eh?? 
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logan river brisbane
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July 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 18:24
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you guys are CRUEL but yeah,get off your lazy butt and start searching PLEASE by the way,have I heard topsecret somewhere before? "the innovator not the imitator" [quote from total wank commercial 100% imitating radio station] 
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 22:58
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go the megasquirt 
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:03
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:25 |
no its not stupid you must be unable to be different.
Its just boring to follow the leader as you obviously do. Cant you think for yourself.
Why do something my mate has done.
Its my car not a copy of someone else's.
I want more power and more differences so its my car not a clone
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An ECU is an electronic device which controls your fuel and ignition systems - it is NOT a fashion accessory. So what if Joe Bloggs has the same brand ECU? It doesn't matter which ECU you get, someone somewhere will have exactly the same ECU and - oh no - you'll be the same as them!
If you truly want to be different, get rid of the fuel injection system entirely - everyone else is using that, so why follow the leader? Be different, use a carbeurettor! I reckon a Holley 750 would to the job nicely.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:31
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:25 |
Why do something my mate has done.
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because it works you moron
yes there are better ecus, but 'my mate has one and i dont want to be seen wearing the same dress to the prom' is the THE lamest excuse i have ever heard...
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:34
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 07:03 |
| TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:25 |
no its not stupid you must be unable to be different.
Its just boring to follow the leader as you obviously do. Cant you think for yourself.
Why do something my mate has done.
Its my car not a copy of someone else's.
I want more power and more differences so its my car not a clone
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An ECU is an electronic device which controls your fuel and ignition systems - it is NOT a fashion accessory. So what if Joe Bloggs has the same brand ECU? It doesn't matter which ECU you get, someone somewhere will have exactly the same ECU and - oh no - you'll be the same as them!
If you truly want to be different, get rid of the fuel injection system entirely - everyone else is using that, so why follow the leader? Be different, use a carbeurettor! I reckon a Holley 750 would to the job nicely.
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Blow through or suck through?
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:36
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Would you settle for an inferior management system just becasue everyone else has the best?
Gonna strip the paint off your car and get that surface rust look cause you 'want something different'?
Norbie: suck through or blow through setup for the 750 holley? 
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 23:37
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i was thinking triple 48mm side draughts....blow through....lots of plumbing
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I supported Toymods
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 00:20
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| TopSecret72 wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 22:25 |
no its not stupid you must be unable to be different.
Its just boring to follow the leader as you obviously do. Cant you think for yourself.
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Bahahaha, so attempting to run a Delco his 1UZFE, then going to a Microtech is...following the leader? Care to point out any other MX73 Cressida's that predate his 1UZFE conversion, especially manual
Seriously dude, work out what you want, work out your budget and then pick an ECU. If that happens to be a Microtech, then YOU made the right choice for YOU. 
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:54
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 03:32
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hahahahahahha.
that is all.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 03:56
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Post-modern art at its best.
I've laughed myself to tears
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Perth
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 04:48
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at rob and mechanic kittah
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 11:12
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This thread started off pathetic, but now.....
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July 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 26 September 2005 15:04
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the first time I have laughed myself to tears in years!! I can't beleive I missed seeing that when it was at the top of the threads!!
Anyway, I am just trying to figure out if there is an Australian distributor for megasquirt?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 26 September 2005 23:56
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want to be different? dont listen to all these knockers,
1. fit a magneto with fixed advance
2. use blowthrough carbies
just buy a microtec, but the next best one from your mate, then you will be one-upping him and that is nothing like copying, it's even more pathetic.
or you could follow the proper way to get an aftermarket ECU
go to a mechanic/workshop you know and like, and ask them what they would use and can tune, then get that one.
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On Probation
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 02:55
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I think the Haltech is a better ECU. You can also get some plug and play support for the 2J
Have a look around. There is heaps out there.
I agree with you, no need to follow the leader. Sometimes the leader made a wrong turn in the first place. Cause the microtech is certainly not the only ECU out there.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 05:58
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| peeack wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:28 |
Does his car have round wheels? Better be different, I hear isosceles triangles are just out on the market, better get them before anyone else does.
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lmao
Wanna be really different? Go to Dick Smiths, buy a soldering kit, some wire, capacitors, resistors etc and make your own ecu!!!
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 07:49
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yep, that's what I'm probably gonna do. No other reason to be most of the way through an electronics major in a Bachelor of Engineering. But chances are, the megasquirt would turn out cheaper than a short run PCB fabrication. That's why I dug this post up. (See previous post by the tricky(meister)) 
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Hobart
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 08:05
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| tricky wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 01:04 |
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the first time I have laughed myself to tears in years!! I can't beleive I missed seeing that when it was at the top of the threads!!
Anyway, I am just trying to figure out if there is an Australian distributor for megasquirt?
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no, but why not buy from www.diyautotune.com he seems pretty good.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 08:08
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| tricky wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 17:49 |
yep, that's what I'm probably gonna do. No other reason to be most of the way through an electronics major in a Bachelor of Engineering. But chances are, the megasquirt would turn out cheaper than a short run PCB fabrication. That's why I dug this post up. (See previous post by the tricky(meister))
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Not only that, but the mega-hours of R&D you would need to get started. Go with the megasquirt and tap in on massive R&D resources, and testing community.
If you want to do something special, i say start with the megasquirt and modify it.
I also went through this train of thought part-way through BE.
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 10:09
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agreed.. it already has the major hardware very well testd, so you can muck about with the inputs and outputs... code, etc...
get involved with the CAN-BUS stuf, and that could be a damn good project, both for you and for the MS community
there is sooo much shit you could do with it...
and if you add stuf that is interesting, there are a whole bunch of people who can help with the tuning and implementation etc etc...
not sure if it consitutes a PhD, but it'd certainly be interesting
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Re: microtech vs haltechvs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 27 September 2005 11:07
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yeah, there does seem to be a significant amount of R&D behind the MS. Having said that, control systems really wouldn't be incredibly difficult for a fuel only system. It really only requires an EPROM with a simple embedded program, isolated from the inputs by opto-couplers and a MAP sensor chip. The hardest part would be calibrating the MAP readings to a quantity of fuel, and even that could be inferred from other peoples observations.
As far as a PhD in engine management systems is concerned...
By the time I start my PhD (if I choose a path of academia), there may no longer be petrol cars... And my major will probably be in alternative energy systems.
Did u guys get your MS's from the US, or did you find an Australian dealer?
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