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celica 86
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Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 11:07

hey guys, me and a friend of mine are looking into building up a budjet track car for us to take up to mallala every now and then and just have some fun in. we've got a bit of mechanical knowledge and acesse to tools and a workshop but it's sometin we'd rather do ourselves if we can and not just pay for someone else to do it. we're gona avoide turbos as they cost too much if they fuck up, and then you've got to screw around with ecu's and it becomes too much of a head fuck. so we're looking for something light, good handeling, a bit of poke and is'nt gona be a bitch to work on or get parts for. a carbie fed car would prob. be better. we've got a budjet of about $7-8k incl the cost of the car. what do you guys think? and dont everyone say a sprinter! ps. it doesnt have to be a toyota either, although it would be nice! [Report message to a moderator]

ae95
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 11:20

there is no BEST project car something light relatively cheap and rwd is ussually the go. although the fwd honda's can do alright its all down to personal preference really [Report message to a moderator]

Shraka
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 11:46

As stated, no 'best'. But here's some stuff I've thought about: For that money, I might look into a Nissan Silvia CA18DE. around $5000ish last time I checked (but that was a while ago). You get: - IRS - Decent engine (although I can't say there'll be much N/A mod support for the CA18DE) - EFI - RWD - Low rust percentage - Goooood support for coilovers, breaks, other suspension gear, panels (as it shares a chassis with the SR20 Silvia, and 180sx which are both very popular). Perhaps if you want a carby, a KE30 or something? Although that's a live rear, and not IRS. You could always put carbies on an EFI engine (god knows enough people do it with 4A-GEs in japan). [Report message to a moderator]

Hodgo
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 12:00

Got to be a datsun stanza with L20 and webbers or sumin... cheap light (lighter than a 1600), reliable & surprising. Once u factor in slicks brakes etc.. u r gonna need plenty of change from the initial purchase. [Updated on: Mon, 15 August 2005 12:09] [Report message to a moderator]

Turbo_Tim
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 13:43

Not interested in buying someone already done? Does it have to be street rego? Could get a race only import from japan reasonably cheap. Maybe consider looking on www.my105.com . Might be worth weighing up if its cheaper to build it yourself or buy something ready to roll. Half the fun is making it though I guess. [Report message to a moderator]

smt_007
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 13:46

You can bring in a sw20 mr2, for 4k race use only...perfect for the track. [Report message to a moderator]

thechuckster
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 14:17

wilbo & i had this very dilema until an MZ10 rolling shell came our way ... so the plan is (after finishing building) to enjoy sprints and some small club meets The car is cheap enough to wreck (without too much tears and anguish) if it gets badly pranged. As we both have ma61's, it'll be a learning experience on building a race car, plus a parts doner if wrecked. Would suggest heading to sprint days to see who races what and then running ideas past some race car builders/engineers to guage their opinions/thoughts. [Updated on: Mon, 15 August 2005 15:02] [Report message to a moderator]

Blown86
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 14:33

Find a old Formula Vee and rebuild it. [Report message to a moderator]

oldcorollas
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Mon, 15 August 2005 14:35

smt_007 wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:46

You can bring in a sw20 mr2, for 4k race use only...perfect for the track.

if you have the appropriate CAMS licence and paerwork..

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xolent
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 14:37

tha' spo0ntah w1ll n3veR lo0s3!!!eleveneleven [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Mon, 15 August 2005 15:24

one of my thoughts was always AW11 + GZE conversion. NEVO pulley upgrade as a bit of extra cheap power, you'll have a sub 1000kg car with bags of torque. turbo would obviously be preferable, but that's putting you into a higher price range would need a full suspension + brake overhaul (but so would any real track car). Before you look into a track car, you should look at what class you want to compete in (if you want to do it officially)... [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Tue, 16 August 2005 00:08

Rex Kelway on this forums has a MZ10 for sale pretty cheap. One of those with a 1UZ would be nice !!! [Report message to a moderator]

MY Racing 221
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Tue, 16 August 2005 01:09

I may be a little (ok, maybe alot) biased, but I would say AW11 NA. They are: Cheap - you can pick one up under $5k. Reliable - 4AGE is pretty hard to break! Improvable - plenty of things you can do to make them faster Competitive - In a class against MX5s etc. Fun - Don't believe all they hype, they aren't that difficult to drive. Yes, they are harder than a FWD corolla or even a RWD AE86, but have great balance. And as a bonus, its always great fun when you have people come and ask you if its turbo/supercharged to say "nah mate, standard motor" Just my $0.02! [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 02:26

bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 08:08

Rex Kelway on this forums has a MZ10 for sale pretty cheap.

One of those with a 1UZ would be nice !!!

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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 02:37

bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 08:08

Rex Kelway on this forums has a MZ10 for sale pretty cheap.

One of those with a 1UZ would be nice !!!

Nah...

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bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 04:44

CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:56

bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 08:08

Rex Kelway on this forums has a MZ10 for sale pretty cheap.

One of those with a 1UZ would be nice !!!

I am being serious. If I had some space to put it, I'd be paying him a visit .......

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CrUZsida
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Tue, 16 August 2005 04:46

I know you are being serious. I also know its be best combination out there. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 05:01

CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 14:16

I know you are being serious.
I also know its be best combination out there.

and add a turbo or two .....

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smt_007
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 05:27

oldcorollas wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 00:35

smt_007 wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 23:46

You can bring in a sw20 mr2, for 4k race use only...perfect for the track.

if you have the appropriate CAMS licence and paerwork..

Exactly

[Updated on: Tue, 16 August 2005 05:28]

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justcallmefrank
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 06:08

bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 13:01

and add a turbo or two .....

Pssht, it'd weigh like 1200-1250kg with a decent LSD and uprated brakes. Just give it some proper cams and let it sing Razz

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oldcorollas
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Tue, 16 August 2005 06:33

nahhh, Ford KB laser is the ultimate cheap track weapon.... [Report message to a moderator]

Rob.C
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Tue, 16 August 2005 06:39

MK 2 Ford Escort. 2L pinto, and go nuts. change it to a hilux diff centre though. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Tue, 16 August 2005 22:28

justcallmefrank wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 15:38

bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 13:01

and add a turbo or two .....

Pssht, it'd weigh like 1200-1250kg with a decent LSD and uprated brakes. Just give it some proper cams and let it sing Razz

Sounds like a plan, but I gotta get my other car going first !! Rolling Eyes

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justcallmefrank
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Wed, 17 August 2005 00:23

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 06:28

Sounds like a plan, but I gotta get my other car going first !! Rolling Eyes

'Tis true, I share your pain, but at least one of us will be able to see it into fruition.

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Corona RT142
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Wed, 17 August 2005 00:24

i'd really love a clubman with a 20v 4age that'd be cool or a beams 3sge. [Updated on: Wed, 17 August 2005 00:26] [Report message to a moderator]

Hodgo
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Wed, 17 August 2005 02:08

Corona RT142 have a look at this one that my mechanic did the manifold on its to be dynoed soon approx 400hp in a clubman!!!! maybey santa will bring me one for my mr2 [Report message to a moderator]

Corona RT142
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Wed, 17 August 2005 02:11

nice i can dream, once i graduate and have been in my profession for a couple of years it'd be nice. ie long time in the future. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Wed, 17 August 2005 04:23

justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 09:53

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 06:28

Sounds like a plan, but I gotta get my other car going first !! Rolling Eyes

'Tis true, I share your pain, but at least one of us will be able to see it into fruition.

Oi !!!!

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CrUZsida
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Wed, 17 August 2005 04:27

What was the Oi! to? [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Wed, 17 August 2005 04:31

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 13:53

justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 09:53

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 06:28

Sounds like a plan, but I gotta get my other car going first !! Rolling Eyes

'Tis true, I share your pain, but at least one of us will be able to see it into fruition.

Oi !!!!

I thopught he was aiming it at me that I wouldn't finish it !!! Cool

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CrUZsida
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Re: Whats the best project track car?	Wed, 17 August 2005 04:32

No, he was talking about a high strung NA uzz10. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: Whats the best project track car?

Wed, 17 August 2005 04:37

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 14:02

No, he was talking about a high strung NA uzz10.

Ahaha !!!

Mind you, I still have to get my ass into gear, and as much as I'd like to do the 1UZ in a MZ10, I don't have the shed space at the moment, but you never know .....

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