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100kw 4age redline
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Wed, 17 August 2005 06:35
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hi all
me being a newb to the spontah scene, i thought i'd ask what the redline is for the 100kw 4age. i'm gathering its not 6000rpm (if i remember rightly) like the original adm tacho says, but is it the same as the jdm 86kw bigport dash? umm 7700rpm i think i saw?
cheers
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Wed, 17 August 2005 06:47
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7200
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Wed, 17 August 2005 08:08
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7700rpm is correct
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Wed, 17 August 2005 09:17
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issit??
my bad im embaressed 
well xolents word over mine
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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Adelaide
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July 2002
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Thu, 18 August 2005 02:41
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100kw small port has a yellow line at 7200 then the redline at 7700 which is where it will bounce on the limiter
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Thu, 18 August 2005 03:07
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im pretty sure it revs to 11,000RPM soft. 16,000RPM hard limiter 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Thu, 18 August 2005 23:48
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limited at 7700,
i need to do womething about mine, i thought it would be cool driving the tacho needle into the red, but it is a bit unnerving.
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Adelaide
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Fri, 19 August 2005 00:19
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| shinybluesteel wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 09:18 |
limited at 7700,
i need to do womething about mine, i thought it would be cool driving the tacho needle into the red, but it is a bit unnerving.
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I would like to disagree, I hit 7700 less then 10 minutes ago in my car and it didn't hit the limiter
Maybe my limiter is broken!
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Adelaide
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Fri, 19 August 2005 00:30
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Smallport with the stock computer is 8025 according to both the dash in my AE92, and the RSM.
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Fri, 19 August 2005 01:27
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My JDM bigport can go to 8000rpm with out the limiter cutting the fun, although I dont like taking it past 6000 G as it sounds horible avove that, )due to previous owners 8000 G daily habbits) and I dont wanna fuck the motor futher...until I can afford a new engine anyway.. 
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nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Fri, 19 August 2005 06:20
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8k is about it in an ae92.
my ae101 still no cut at 8500  thanks SARD!
btw, theres no point revving a 20v past 6500-7000
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gold coast
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December 2004
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:39
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my standard 20 v silver (air filter, tuned length extractors, exhaust) starts pulling really hard at 6500 and doesnt back of till 8000,
does anyone know what the limiter is on the standard ae101 computers, i havnt hit mine yet and id like to avoid it if possible
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gold coast
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:40
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my standard 20 v silver (air filter, tuned length extractors, exhaust) starts pulling really hard at 6500 and doesnt back of till 8000,
does anyone know what the limiter is on the standard ae101 computers, i havnt hit mine yet and id like to avoid it if possible
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:41
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my standard 20 v silver (air filter, tuned length extractors, exhaust) starts pulling really hard at 6500 and doesnt back of till 8000,
does anyone know what the limiter is on the standard ae101 computers, i havnt hit mine yet and id like to avoid it if possible
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:42
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oops didnt realise it kept posting everytime i hit reload, sorry
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:56
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8800
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nelson, new zealand
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 08:45
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its about 8 on mine
look at the dyno plots of a 20v, they fall on thier ass after 6500ish. tim efor another gear
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 09:11
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| Mr Revhead wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 18:15 |
its about 8 on mine
look at the dyno plots of a 20v, they fall on thier ass after 6500ish. tim efor another gear
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CAMS!
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September 2003
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 09:40
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| ae86 slide wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 17:41 |
i havnt hit mine yet and id like to avoid it if possible
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Go on hit it... it'll love it.
I got 260k on my GE and it happily bounces the rev limiter in 1,2,3 gears. Just keep the oil fresh.
If it was THAT dangerous to hit the limiter Toyota would have set the limits lower.
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 11:01
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| adamb131 wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 19:10 |
| ae86 slide wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 17:41 |
i havnt hit mine yet and id like to avoid it if possible
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Go on hit it... it'll love it.
I got 260k on my GE and it happily bounces the rev limiter in 1,2,3 gears. Just keep the oil fresh.
If it was THAT dangerous to hit the limiter Toyota would have set the limits lower.
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wouldnt the limiter be set HIGHER if it was dangerous to hit hte limiter as apposed to a certain rpm? 
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 11:42
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there is confusion over what the ECU "rev limit" is on the 100kW 4age...... and i think i've worked it out.
MANY say 7700rpm
and some say 7200rpm
... both are correct. The 100kW ECU is like the silvertop 20v ecu in that if there is no "SPD" signal input to the ECU, it drops the rev limit to a "safer" level, thinking that you are 'free-revving' the engine
So those with conversions who have no SPD signal to the ECU have limit of 7200rpm 
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sat, 20 August 2005 12:16
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mines 7600/7700 i dunno
i dont look at teh guage when im driving hard, and i dont have a speedo so thats no use
ill all seat of teh pants feel baby!
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sun, 21 August 2005 08:38
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| THE WITZL wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 21:42 |
there is confusion over what the ECU "rev limit" is on the 100kW 4age...... and i think i've worked it out.
MANY say 7700rpm
and some say 7200rpm
... both are correct. The 100kW ECU is like the silvertop 20v ecu in that if there is no "SPD" signal input to the ECU, it drops the rev limit to a "safer" level, thinking that you are 'free-revving' the engine
So those with conversions who have no SPD signal to the ECU have limit of 7200rpm
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I believe this to be 100% correct.
My RWD Bigport has a rpm cut at 7200rpm (no speed signal yet)or there about's but i do believe JDM RWD Bigports go too 7750rpm.
Just keep going i say, when it feels like there is nothing left(usually valve bounce), change gears.
Cheers
Steve
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nelson, new zealand
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sun, 21 August 2005 08:55
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yeah JDM 4ages will hit 8ish on the tacho easy.
and a 4age will break before it valve bounces!
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Banned by his request
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Sun, 21 August 2005 09:05
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about 7600 but if you can tell the diffrence between 7600 and 7700 your not watching watch you should be.ive buzzed mine a few times to over 10000rpm and it did it no harm,but its a case of living on bored time.
mick
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Mon, 22 August 2005 00:30
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| FKN16V wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 18:08 |
| THE WITZL wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 21:42 |
there is confusion over what the ECU "rev limit" is on the 100kW 4age...... and i think i've worked it out.
MANY say 7700rpm
and some say 7200rpm
... both are correct. The 100kW ECU is like the silvertop 20v ecu in that if there is no "SPD" signal input to the ECU, it drops the rev limit to a "safer" level, thinking that you are 'free-revving' the engine
So those with conversions who have no SPD signal to the ECU have limit of 7200rpm
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I believe this to be 100% correct.
My RWD Bigport has a rpm cut at 7200rpm (no speed signal yet)or there about's but i do believe JDM RWD Bigports go too 7750rpm.
Just keep going i say, when it feels like there is nothing left(usually valve bounce), change gears.
Cheers
Steve
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The post was originally about small ports, and they cut out somewhere between 8200 and 8400, thats what I have seen quoted somewhere in a manual but I can't find it.
Tomorow I'll post a video of what my tacho hits when it's bouncing off the limiter - then everyone can see proof that it's higher then 7700
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July 2005
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Mon, 22 August 2005 04:31
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Yep mine is 7700 BUT the dash tacho says a little over 8000.
Aftermarket tacho shows bang on 7700
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Mon, 22 August 2005 08:53
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lukass is correct there... the Toyota tachometers become pretty inaccurate over 6000rpm - i would only trust a good aftermarket tachometer or professional test equipment to "guage" your measurements.
I KNOW that the AE92 smallport ecu will rev cut at very close to 7200rpm with no SPD connected, tested with both a peak-hold DMM on frequency and an autoguage tachometer.
I have never properly tested a smallport ECU with the SPD signal connected.
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Mon, 22 August 2005 09:43
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| THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 18:53 |
lukass is correct there... the Toyota tachometers become pretty inaccurate over 6000rpm - i would only trust a good aftermarket tachometer or professional test equipment to "guage" your measurements.
I KNOW that the AE92 smallport ecu will rev cut at very close to 7200rpm with no SPD connected, tested with both a peak-hold DMM on frequency and an autoguage tachometer.
I have never properly tested a smallport ECU with the SPD signal connected.
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For reference, my AE92 was limiting at 8025rpm as reported by the ApexiRSM, that was original wiring etc.
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Tue, 23 August 2005 01:28
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| THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 18:23 |
lukass is correct there... the Toyota tachometers become pretty inaccurate over 6000rpm - i would only trust a good aftermarket tachometer or professional test equipment to "guage" your measurements.
I KNOW that the AE92 smallport ecu will rev cut at very close to 7200rpm with no SPD connected, tested with both a peak-hold DMM on frequency and an autoguage tachometer.
I have never properly tested a smallport ECU with the SPD signal connected.
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Yeah, I thought that standard tacho's were pretty inaccurate in the upper ranges but I've seen mine hit 8500, so that's almost 800rpm error. Surely there not that far out, maybe a few hundred at most.
but this might have something to do the speed sensor cause it was flat chat in third so you can guess how quick I was going...
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Banned by his request
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Re: 100kw 4age redline
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Tue, 23 August 2005 10:52
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yep i can just imagine toyota that has to offer warranty on there engines setting the rev cut over 8000rpm.
mick
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.. unless the fuel cut stops u havin so much fun...