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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:11
 
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average if you want a game to drift in get Live for Speed 2, even forza on xbox.
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Sydney NSW
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July 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:21
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Sorry, i cant get online with my PS2, but what settings/car are you using to drift?
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Melb East
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:25
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| cannonball wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 13:21 |
Sorry, i cant get online with my PS2, but what settings/car are you using to drift?
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N2 tires, no driver aids, brake balance rear biased, auto setting 5 on transmission, lower ride height... and most of all practise, engine mods not nessarsay, but my blitzr34 is running stage3 turbo (630kw), but its a bit of a handfull...
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Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 15 August 2005 12:06
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im having truble holding phat drifts in GT4 still. I keep ending up snapping back visciously the other way and doing a burnout.
In GT3 I was a master!  I have found that the FD3 series 4/5 rotors are again good drifters though.
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Melb East
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:53
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| TRD-GTI wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 22:06 |
im having truble holding phat drifts in GT4 still. I keep ending up snapping back visciously the other way and doing a burnout.
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Yes GT3's physics weren't quite as realistic as the physics in GT4, which makes drifting harder, but much more appreciative. How much horsepower are you using? Too much will tend to help on the snap back, and also try reducing the grip on the front end, it is a balance between reducing it just enough so it will grip (not understeer). And most of all practise, try not to overcorrect for too long, eventually it'll get grip and snap, so just overcorrect and then ease back to center...
| TRD-GTI wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 22:06 |
In GT3 I was a master! I have found that the FD3 series 4/5 rotors are again good drifters though.
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btw i haven't used the mazda's much, but most RWD imports are good. One of my Fav's is the MR2 GTS 97 and the s2000 (cause you can see the driver at work!)...
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:08
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Any car will snap back pretty hard. I've done it in my stock AE86 S.S. (or Takumi) eddition and my mild AE86.
Best way I have found to drift is don't hold the power down, and don't counter steer. Just get a nice inertial drift happening. My MX5 (about 350kw) gets very sideways and I hardly touch the power throught the corner. Just break hard, flick out the wrong way, drop a gear, turn in hard back the other way (a bit early) then let off the break. The thing slides very well. As I have to adjust or exit the corner, I repeatedly tap the throttle, making sure I'm not touching the steering otherwise it'll snap back. As it grips up I hold the throttle down (smoothly engaging it) and take controll of the steering again.
I'm currently working on making an N/A drifter AE86, but those things are hard to drift! Not nearly as tail happy as they are in real life. I might try some more camber on the fronts and just economy tyres on the back (rather than medium sports tyres).
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Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Tue, 16 August 2005 12:55
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Yeah i've noticed that countersteering is the killer. even when your still burning rubber at over 120kph in a straight line, the slightest amount and its a high speed loose; after 6 or so feeble attempts to cover it 
I reckon no more than 400hp definately. I run 4 deg front camber, but still seem to get a little initial understeer. maybe I have the shocks too stiff?? frnts bound 4, rebound 7-8 and rears usually one less of each
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gold coast
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December 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 17 August 2005 08:04
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I considered myself a master in GT3 aswell and also had trouble when i first tried to drift in GT4 but after alot of frustrating practice i figured a few things out.
you definatly need the right tyres, they have to be standard road tyres, power isnt the issue, as someone else said it is alot more realistic than GT3, so just like in real life if you are only sliding at 30 degrees and counter steer at full lock you will flick back hard.
So use of the analogue control is necessary to hold the right angle of steering,
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Elwood, Melbourne
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 17 August 2005 12:12
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you definatly need the right tyres, they have to be standard road tyres
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I liked in GT3 that you could have sticky slicks onthe front and dirty road bikkies on the back to get it real loose
Cant seem to mix and match between types in GT4 only compounds?
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Perth
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April 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 17 August 2005 17:41
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I'm trying to use the spoon s2000 to drift with little success. I've tried super soft tyres on the front and just about everything else on the rear. Not easy.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Thu, 18 August 2005 05:32
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This is a series of photos taken of me overtaking an EVOVI at the first hairpin turn after the tunnel at SSR5. These pics were taken in single player arcade mode with stock cars. I'm using N2 tires all round and zero-countersteer drift the turn. The drift was executed perfectly, with an out-in-out approach with no steering input after losing traction.
Braking before the turn, shifting weight to the front to break traction to the rear tires
Different angle of the first pic. Im a bit behind the evo
Initial turn in, beginning to drift towards the apex of the turn
Getting a bit more angle towards the clipping point
Probably what I look like in the Evo's rear view mirror
still drifting at the clipping point. Still no countersteering
After clearing the apex, starting to drift to the outside
Caught up to the evo, almost kissing its ass
Still drifting, the drift takes me to the outside of the evo before i crash into his rear end. (was pretty close to hitting)
Stopped drifting and have full traction.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Thu, 18 August 2005 05:33
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Lining up with the evo, about to overtake.
The whole time i was at full throttle and no countersteer.
4 wheel zero countersteer drift! 
btw, we dont have a gt4 photo thread do we?
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gold coast
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December 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Thu, 18 August 2005 06:42
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how do you post pics, cant figure it out. i have so many slide pics
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Thu, 18 August 2005 11:15
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how do u play GT4 online ? i use the HKS S15 car to drift with a Stage 4... my settings are:
Susp: 15/16KG (max)
Hide: 70mm front and rear
front camber: 2.0
rear: 10.0
toe angle rear: +2
stabliser: front + rear 7
Sports tyres 3: soft drifts very well likes to get hte tail out.. try it!
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gold coast
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December 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Fri, 19 August 2005 22:56
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im telling ya try an ae86 or standard s13 something underpowerd, do 2 way LSD, racing suspension (realistic settings), standard road tyres , and for the AE86 just port polish, racing exhaust, ECU, and maybe stage 1 or 2 weight reduction, mine only has 150ps and drifts like a gem.
then practice sliding the less powerfull cars, they are much easier to control when your starting of.
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 06:57
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I found a trick with the AE86 is to use alot of toe-out. This will stop it from snapping back easily with counter steer.
It'll tend to understeer, but just make use of the handbrake for corner entry.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 07:28
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yeah a fair bit of camber on the front helps to, i run about 3.2
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Adelaide
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 09:16
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If i could be fucked making a vid i would, ive been setting up cars to drift in GT4 since before the aussie release, my favourite car being the SS trueno.
I find a good way to minimise the snap back, is to run the lsd about 1.3-1.5 way. if its setup 2way, snapback is more frequent.
Also, i find that i can drift well, linking corners etc, with almost anything, the midgit 2 for example. Its only got something like 70hp... but i can link up most of autumn ring and other small tracks, nos helps on some of the bigger corners.
to the guy up above with the rx7 with no countersteer, good effort man, but the reason u dont need to countersteer is because you havent got much angle.
i wanna get a 900deg wheel and see what thats like, not just for gt4, but also for D1 grand prix and kaido battle.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 09:28
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i wanna get a 900deg wheel and see what thats like,
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 FUCK ME!!!! is that like a on bmx when you do a phat handlebar spin haha
its meant to be 90deg im sure, sorry couldnt help myself
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 09:59
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Actually the GT4 steering wheel does have 900 deg of rotation which is 3 complete turns from lock to lock. Pretty normal if you think about it.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 11:38
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what i wanna know is why those pics have the SCEI copy right on em? just like official demo piictures for reviews sites etc
hahaha
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Adelaide
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 11:51
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| TRD-GTI wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 18:58 |
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i wanna get a 900deg wheel and see what thats like,
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FUCK ME!!!! is that like a on bmx when you do a phat handlebar spin haha
its meant to be 90deg im sure, sorry couldnt help myself
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Hihi your a fag
sorry couldnt help myself 
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 13:18
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Oh gee thanks your so kind.  - are you interested? 
If its not too late to admit that I misunderstood; I thought that u were meaning 90deg of steering lock ie max opposite lock drift. dont worry, I wont bother having an opinion next time
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Adelaide
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 16:00
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lol dude!
its all fun n games... here on toymods anyways
on ns.com the shit giving is 10x! 
bwhahaha
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November 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 20 August 2005 18:17
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| Arch wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 02:00 |
lol dude!
its all fun n games... here on toymods anyways
on ns.com the shit giving is 10x!
bwhahaha
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That's 'cuz people on ns.com are more interested in their fully six reputationz than having a laugh and enjoying driving...
heh heh. Had to use the oportunity to take a dig at ns.com.
I've been messing with a HEAVILY worked AE86 N/A to get it sideways. Stage 3 tune, prettymuch everything done to it.
I got it drifting pretty well for a while, but then tried to "fix it" and ended up breaking it and can't get it to drift again. I think the settings I had where sports soft tyres on front, sports hard on back, 4 camber on front, 1.5 on back, -1 toe on back, 1 on front, and soft springs on the rear with hard on the front. I can't seem to tweak it back to it's previous awesomeness though.
I'm using the Trueno S.S. as my N/A track car. Non-drift (Even though it gets a bit sideways sometiems)
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sun, 21 August 2005 13:54
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| Arch wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 19:16 |
If i could be fucked making a vid i would, ive been setting up cars to drift in GT4 since before the aussie release, my favourite car being the SS trueno.
I find a good way to minimise the snap back, is to run the lsd about 1.3-1.5 way. if its setup 2way, snapback is more frequent.
Also, i find that i can drift well, linking corners etc, with almost anything, the midgit 2 for example. Its only got something like 70hp... but i can link up most of autumn ring and other small tracks, nos helps on some of the bigger corners.
to the guy up above with the rx7 with no countersteer, good effort man, but the reason u dont need to countersteer is because you havent got much angle.
i wanna get a 900deg wheel and see what thats like, not just for gt4, but also for D1 grand prix and kaido battle.
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what i wanna know is why those pics have the SCEI copy right on em? just like official demo piictures for reviews sites etc
hahaha
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Thats how it comes out when you upload to usb drive. I've still got the replay saved and i can take a pic of my tv if u dont believe it was me.
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sun, 21 August 2005 16:25
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i neve rused any of the fancy gt4 stuff.. but why did they have to loose the overlay replay mode 
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:26
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| TRD_Supra wrote on Thu, 18 August 2005 21:15 |
how do u play GT4 online ?
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Well go get yourself a ps2 network card if you havent already done so, then sign up to this website http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/index.php , and download the software. Then go here http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=651 71 to manually configure your ps2 to work with xlink, and then let me know when you want to battle... 
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February 2005
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 22 August 2005 06:50
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car i like to drive lately, forgot what it is,
had some fun here making it really high and all the suspension setting soft and lots o body roll..pretty funny to watch,
and this is with standard settings apart from lowered
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 22 August 2005 08:10
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I have a 900 degree steering wheel.
Problem is cant find any other games that recognise it as it runs from the usb port other than GT4.....
And I cant get any dori dori action working using it at all....
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Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Mon, 22 August 2005 11:37
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where can i get a 900deg wheel? and how come u cant slide with it? to hard to make it come back quick enough?
i wanna get em at work so i can try before i buy..
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Brisbane, Queensland
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June 2005
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Tue, 23 August 2005 00:23
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| LeaThaL wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 21:39 |
back in the days of when i didnt have forza, I have moved on to better things now but we should start a drift GT4 pics thread
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haha so true, haven't played gt4 but i had forza and moved on to LFS2 for drift it makes forza look lame. Forza is still good but nothing in comparison to LFS2 and drift.
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Perth, WA
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 24 August 2005 03:52
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you want some real fun drift???
i havent tried this on gt4 yet, but it worked on gt3
get in a stock 206 gti or little fwd 4 banger, pick a track, then just hold the handbrake up and the power at the same time
then watch as you get some insane sideways action, which you can always get back
not as much fun as the rwds but, it's good for a laugh with 2players doing at the same time
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Brisbane, Queensland
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June 2005
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 24 August 2005 03:56
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lol i did that with the ST184 i had in it, all mods with a supercharger (woundnt let you turbo it  ) and just fly into a long corner and handi' it around its even more fun inn the Grp A St185 tho, all four are spinninng as you fling around the corners
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November 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 24 August 2005 03:59
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hehe i was doing that in the fwd in LFS2 last night, set it up for natural over steer ie stiff as rear end and you don't even need to flick it in or brake to get angles. But i have 95% rear brake bias so no need for hand brake just tap the brakes and the arse swings, or you can ride the brakes all the way round the track just spinning the fronts.
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Wed, 24 August 2005 09:00
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Games Boutique of anyplace like that should have it, just ask for a Logitech Driving Force Pro - 900degree wheel for ps2, they should know what it is... wuz couple hundred though.
And yea, I cant get the thing to drift. I cant seem to find a borderline point where u can start to loose traction and the azz start to slideout (and be able to hold and recover it with steering) without doing a full spin..... Besides on dirt of course....... thats where all the fun is with one of these wheels hehe.
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wollongong
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October 2004
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Fri, 26 August 2005 12:16
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i think forza is fucking great for dorifto pple, especially the ae86 with around 300kw(NA, 3sge conversion) love the response fromthe motor, is awesome, will post some digital camera pics of my replays when i get a chance
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Sat, 27 August 2005 06:10
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with the lsd full customise i feel that i cant hold the drift as long in an 86
only works well with the hard power..
help?
and 86 shigeno version with road tires rocks!
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Re: Gran Turismo 4 drifting/Xlink
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Tue, 30 August 2005 02:37
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Bah, who needs these modern, Japanese cars to drift?
I've been using the Dodge Charger, in Dukes of Hazzard orange, craps on the jap stuff. Just has suspension, 2 way LSD, twin plate.
Bigger angles, more predictable than most of the jap stuff. You can come into the sweeper at the end of Tsukuba's back straight, turn in, tap the brakes, then feather the throttle and slide all the way round to the start straight - in the dry!
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