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Brisbane
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 13:05
 
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the cam seals are best purchased from a bearing shop, they will cost you around $3 each, I was silly enough to get mine wholesale through toyota and they still cost me $12 for EXACTLY the same item.
Dont forget the cam cover gaskets, probably about $30 each from toyota.
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 13:35
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I'm currently in the middle of exaclty the same thing. Don't forget the waterpump! I need new tensioner & idler pully, these are horribly expensive from toyota - apparently ~$190 & ~$127 each, respectively!
Cam cover gaskets are more like $50 each from toyota. I had the rest of the other seals matched at a bearing shop... the only one they couldn't get is the rear main. I did a search on the tech section and found a part # for a Repco one though, $34 apparently vs over $70 from toyota.
The only thing with the bearing shop bearings is that the guy couldn't guarantee that they would have the crosshatching pattern on the inside, which he seemed to think was important but my mechanic not. Does anyone else know?
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 14:02
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Stefan,
I dont suppose you have that repco part number on you do you?
Also, what about the water pump? Replace the seal or the entire thing?
Is the cam seal part number m1173 a generic number or just a toyota part number?
I'll keep changing the top post for everyone to show the most recent information  Hopefully can get a decent article made.
Cheers
Benen
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Hobart, Tas
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Adelaide, SA
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 15:23
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I think this needs to be repeated:
Replace the waterpump!! Stupid things are so easy to kill if they are not kept right. I've killed two, one from age and the other from the engine not having water in it for ages and just sitting around - ended up in one very dry seal, which made water go everywhere. Woohoo!
Oh yeh, make sure the lubrication system is all functional... clean the wire filter and stuff like that.
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On Probation
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nsw
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March 2004
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 22:48
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Dont forget that tiny little friggin coolant hose at the back piece of shit 
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Brisbane
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February 2004
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Sun, 21 August 2005 22:57
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| HyDrA wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 01:23 |
I think this needs to be repeated:
Replace the waterpump!! Stupid things are so easy to kill if they are not kept right. I've killed two, one from age and the other from the engine not having water in it for ages and just sitting around - ended up in one very dry seal, which made water go everywhere. Woohoo!
Oh yeh, make sure the lubrication system is all functional... clean the wire filter and stuff like that.
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Whats a new water pump worth for a 1ggte?
I was thinkin of getting one of those electric controllable waterpumps, anyone used these before?
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 02:57
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~$160
Stick with mechanical waterpumps.
Electric ones are WOFTAM
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:01
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| CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 12:57 |
~$160
Stick with mechanical waterpumps.
Electric ones are WOFTAM
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I thought it was more like 160 trade, ~200 retail?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:05
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Yeah, but no one talks retail
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Location:
Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:10
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Well, some people do.
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Brisbane
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February 2004
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:58
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Cool thanks.
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South Australia
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August 2003
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Re: 1g-gte service before conversion (3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 08:15
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What's wrong with using electric pumps?
Do you have to get the new pump from toyota? Who else makes them?
Cheers
Benen
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 08:53
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EWP's are less efficient than modern day mechanical ones, and only last a few years.
Good for a drag car, useless for anything else.
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South Australia
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August 2003
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 09:24
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no worries, cheers
as far as the rear main seal goes:
These two are the options apart from the rip off toyota ones right?
97647 - from Repco
TC12660VI - where are these from?
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 09:27
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| benen wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 21:14 |
Hey all,
I know there have been posts on this before but im trying to get together a complete list of parts.
My engine is going in soon but i want to change everything that is easy to change b4 it goes in.
After a bit of research i've come up with this: Can anone confirm each one of these items before i purchase them. Also, has anyone got any advice? ie. Best places to get them in SA etc.
1. cam seals - m1173
2. front main seal - anyone????
3. rear main seal - TC12660VI
4. oil pump seal - ag0994e or a tc12435
5. flywheel bolts - Toyota - 90105-10042
6. timing belt - Toyota - 3568 79035 ---- T865 ??
7. tensioner - 52TB058B05
8. oil filter - Ryco Z418
9. Oil - Mobil 1 5W50
10. Water pump seal - 16124-70041
11. Water Pump 16100-79065
12. Thermostat 90916-03063 88-100 degrees
13. Spark Plugs NGK - BCPR6EP-N-8
Is it worth changing the bearings? Is it easy enough to do when the engine is in the car if one happens to go?
Cheers
Benen
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 10:03
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fantastic, thanks EvilJack, theyre from toyota right? Can you get any of those parts matched at a retailer?
Cheers
Benen
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 10:05
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yup straight from the EPC
i'd say the water pump you would have to get from toyota, thermostat i used a 4age one from any local parts store
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South Australia
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August 2003
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 10:13
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Anyone got any info on the front main seal? cant seem to find any anywhere.
Also, what about that other timing belt number i've come across? T865
Apart from that ill go to the local retailers and see how i go getting the parts and bring back some feedback.
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 22 August 2005 10:58
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Seriously, just take all your old seals out, take them to a bearing shop, and get them to match them for you. They can read the part #s and/or measure the seals themselves.
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Location:
Newcastle, Australia
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August 2005
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Location:
Newcastle, Australia
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August 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 00:20
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Front main seal has NOK AH2651L stamped on it but that probably won't help much. That should be the same as oodles of Toyota motors, as stefan said, just pull em out and get em matched.
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 01:25
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GTtwin, that's brilliant, thanks. How did you did you find these (the idler & tensioner) out?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 02:22
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You should use an 82 degC thermostat in Australia, not the 88degC one.
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 02:31
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rear main seal and timing belt would be the same for the gen 2 and 3 motor, or would they not?
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Location:
Newcastle, Australia
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August 2005
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 05:58
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| GTtwin wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 15:39 |
Hey Merudo, done anything about that faded paint yet? You gotta get that thing of yours gleaming!
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*tries hard to remember who you are*
bar beach cruise? what car did you drive? 
my paints not faded, its just really scuffed in an odd way 
depending on the angle it looks alright
click for pic
but goddamn , i want those scuffs out! if you look at the car from any other angle when the suns on it, it looks terrible
i need to get a proper buffer, those battery powered supercheap things just dont cut it
I think I've just resigned to the fact that I'll need a respray
but... 1JZ first 
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Newcastle, Australia
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August 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 06:32
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Five speed GZ-20. Finally bothered to get my arse on this forum.
Hey did anyone post any picks of that day up on here?
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newcastle nsw
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May 2002
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Location:
South Australia
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August 2003
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 09:56
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lol, i'll be replacing all of my hoses, cheers for the help everyone.
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Tue, 23 August 2005 10:07
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FWIW, some of my selas arrived today:
M1173 (cam seals) were $3.60 each
TC12435 (oil pump seal) was $2.52
Does anyone have a part number for the front main?
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Newcastle, Australia
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August 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 00:16
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Hey Benen, I got another part, totally slipped my mind.
Head Gasket: 11115-88340
Same on all GTE gen motors, different to 1G-E. (Don't even ask why I have one of them).
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south east - melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 02:58
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 12:22 |
You should use an 82 degC thermostat in Australia, not the 88degC one.
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WHY???????
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I supported Toymods
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November 2003
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 03:04
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One question mark would have sufficed there...
But the 7MGTE in Aus uses an 82degC thermostat.
Other countries its an 88degC one.
One would assume the same applies to the 1GGTE.
Most Aussie Toyota motors run 82degC thermostats.
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 03:17
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No need to change now, but if/when you do the next service, get an 82 instead of 88.
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 03:19
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| indian wrote on Thu, 25 August 2005 13:08 |
HEHEH OK MATEY
CHEERS FOR THAT
so now have to change to 82 soon damn
btw is the twin cam corrolla have the 82 or the 88 thermo as i used one of them in the soarer the rubber washer has to be retained from the old thermo otherwise it fits perfect
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It will say what temp rating the thermostat is, on the thermostat!
Do you still have the box it came in? It will say it on there too...
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May 2002
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Thu, 25 August 2005 03:25
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They come with either, just ask for the 82.
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nsw
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Hobart, Tas
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Re: 1g-gte parts info (service before conversion 3rd gen)
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Mon, 29 August 2005 06:38
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| GTtwin wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 10:16 |
I've got generic part numbers for Timing Belt idler and tensioner pully/bearings for 1G (GE GZE GTE).
Tensioner is:
NSK
52TB058B05 ENSL 310
Idler is:
Koyo
TT23000
RF71-12-730A
Got mine from a bearing supplier for around half what Toyota charge.
Timing Belt is 13568-79035, you were only missing the 1 at the front.
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BSC did some phoning around for me and had no luck on that koyo part # for the idler. Does anyone know of a different part #, or can confirm that the above is correct?
Also, the front main part # listed I had matched easilly, but it doesn't have the hatching pattern on the inner diameter like the stock one does. Does anyone know if this is a problem?
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