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4AGE 100kw Cams
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Tue, 23 August 2005 23:31
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Has anyone put a set of cams in a 100kw 4age if so what cams and what results have you got.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 00:10
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PWNED?
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 00:13
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| shinybluesteel wrote on Wed, 24 August 2005 07:48 |
mine came with cams, so i didnt have to put any in.
i'd imagine the results you would get are a running engine.
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Can we just have someone please answer questions sensibly for once? 
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 00:39
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i think he means aftermarket cams?
on a 4AG depending on what lift and duration they can give you 2-10kw more
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 01:02
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Yes i do mean aftermarket cams.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 01:55
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I have had both 304 Deg 7.5mm and 280 9mm cams in my 100KW
304's were good at the track with lots of grunt high up but lacking down low torque needed on the dirt,
the 280's have tons of push you back in the seat torque from 4000 onwards.
But having said that with the close ratio gearbox and the 5.1 diff its not really streatable.
oh and you need quads and computer if you go above 260 Deg.
Ben.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 03:38
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| ae86trueno wrote on Wed, 24 August 2005 11:55 |
oh and you need quads and computer if you go above 260 Deg.
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please excuse my ignorance, but i can understanding needing a programmable computer, why are the quad throttle bodies needed?
cheers
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 03:57
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Ben, got any dyno graphs?
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 04:42
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Quads arent needed but I would recommend them as once you get to about 272 you start to loose the benefit of having larger cams and if your going to go this far an extra couple of dollars will give you a big performance improvement.
Here is an poorly scanned old graph
Ben.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 04:44
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cool, the quads arn't strictly needed, but highly recommended 
thanks
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 05:57
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Ben: which cams were those?
I dont have my dyno graphs on me atm, but i run 308*s in my smallport, with 20v quads. Pulls around 130rwhp.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 06:00
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What's that like around town, takai? Stock compression? And what ECU are you using?
Thanks
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 06:06
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Its horrible, i dont drive it around town though, it is my race car after all. I would probably be shot, crucified, and then hung drawn and quartered, and then shot again for good measure if i drove it around town.
Still a stock bottom end, because im trying to get the suspension right before i rebuild the engine.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 06:07
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There was a white sprinter at the last toymods dyno day that put 122rwkw out of a NA 4age, i think it was a small port.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 06:16
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| takai wrote on Wed, 24 August 2005 16:06 |
Its horrible, i dont drive it around town though, it is my race car after all. I would probably be shot, crucified, and then hung drawn and quartered, and then shot again for good measure if i drove it around town.
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Hahahahaha, righto
ECU? Or is it a secret?
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 06:26
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Haltech E6x
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 07:15
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| GTI16V wrote on Wed, 24 August 2005 16:47 |
Am thinking about buying some wade cams about 262degree duration and about .33 inch lift.According to wade cams these will run on the stock ecu no problem at all.
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Have you priced these yet?
I'd be interested to know what they are worth and where you are getting them from.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 07:29
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They want $440 per pair of new billet cams plus delivery.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 10:38
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do you know what spec no. the 262 Wade cams are? was it 1056a or 956a? just curious coz Im getting some soon, but havent been down there to discus yet.
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Has anyone put a set of cams in a 100kw 4age if so what cams and what results have you got
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I would go up to 272 max on std ecu like the others have said. new billet should be the only way you go. regrinds arent good
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 11:11
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They were for the 872a ones.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 12:01
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true, they are the basic upgrade ones ay? if I were spending the money (which I am soon) I would get the lumpier ones for the same money coz they will still run ok with ecu. maybe look at some valve springs too if you increase the lift a bit
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 13:49
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DO NOT try to run the Wade 1056a cams without a shim-under conversion kit, you will spit the shims.
The 872a grind are fine though, they don't have the extra lift. I run them in my motor currently.
Cheers
Phil
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 14:35
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Nah, while 0.338" is getting close to shim spit levels, its still ok, barely.
Im running 0.35" and still waiting for it to spit a shim, admittedly i am changing to solid lifters.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Wed, 24 August 2005 22:56
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Im running 0.35" lift, at somewhat more aggressive ramp than the Wade cams i have seen.
I havnt seen the 1056's though, so it could be different.
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Re: 4AGE 100kw Cams
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Thu, 25 August 2005 03:44
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I've just put a pair of 288 degree 7.5mm lift Wade billets in my Bigport 4AGE and I'm very happy with them. But I run a 5.3:1 diff and microtech but still the standard manifold for the moment.
I pulled out the standard cams, replaced them with the billets, re-shimmed, re-tuned it and gained 8 rwkw and an extra 1300rpm of useable rev range. Still is quite drivable from about 2,800rpm onwards and has a very slightly lumpy idle at 1200rpm. It's got a bit of a dip in torque between 4,500 and 5,500 but temporarily removing the pod filter made that go away but it's back on now until I get the quads on.
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