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illuminatus
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4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 11:44 Go to next message
i own a ae82 with a 4age and on sat i got the terrible news that my big port (86kw) head is cracked. i called up toyospares and they said its $240 for another head, and that the big port, small port and 20V are all the same price.
i know the 20v wont fit cos of the pistons(mine 4 grooves instead of 5).

what i want to know is, if a small port(100kw) head will simply bolt straight onto my block.
will i need another ecu? if so will a after market ecu or piggy back chip do the job? and which one you guys recommend.
will i need to get a different wireing loom?

thanks.
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
imho its not worth it. it has smaller duration cams.

but it should go plug and play it is still the same engine minus tvis.
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got a bigport head if u wanna buy it off me
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so does the small port have a MAP semsor or an AFM?
and if it doesnt have TVIS do i need a new intake manifold?

what exactly do i need to change to make it run apart from the head?

manzy: i am after a small port(the 100kw one) head.
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SW20R wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 21:50

imho its not worth it. it has smaller duration cams.

but it should go plug and play it is still the same engine minus tvis.


it has smaller ports, higher port velocity and better midrange... i fail to see the problem with that Wink
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Couldn't he use his existing bigport cams with the smallport head?
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fOOZ86 wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 23:57

Couldn't he use his existing bigport cams with the smallport head?



yeh you can they are slighty better.
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Sun, 28 August 2005 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fine to use the small port head as they are better atmo than the big port.just block of the oil return turn at the back of the head.you will gain a bit of power with the small port head.
mick
p.s if you dont know what your talking about dont answer in the tech section.lol makes it very confussing for people when there is right answers and some idiots opinion that is worthless.like the first answer.
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Mon, 29 August 2005 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks guys.

but i thought that i would get 100kw by only putting the small port head on. today i found out that i would need a afm ecu and prob the loom from a small port. so i scrapped the idea.

i have till the end of the day to decide if i want to replace my big port head. and do it up ion the near future(cams, full exhaust, chip). or if i should not fix it and put in a 4agze.

has anyone heard of any probs with a fwd gze(like torque steer)?

[Updated on: Mon, 29 August 2005 01:55]

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illuminatus
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Re: 4age head swap: big port -> small port Mon, 29 August 2005 03:22 Go to previous message
ok. i have just oreder a 20v 4age. cant wait.
it cost me 1900 with a gear box.

the install should cost about 500.

thanks for the info guys.
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