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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 01:26
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yeah i have one of them as wll but the bigger one and yeah they do a pretty good job for a cooler mine is always warm on the turbo side and icy cold on the other i also remember fiddling with the bov and when it released the air was so cold i was shocked this was with the car at idle though but the fan is always on so the air is being cooled wter or not the car is moving or not so its good
i have 2.5 inch piping with 2.5-3 inch reducers t both ends of the cooler available at autobarn for 12 or 13 dollars each (rubber)
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Location: Noosa QLD
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 08:18
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Owner: Dale
MODEL: GZ20
Mods
Starting a 1jzgtte conversion
3" Mandrel Bent Exhaust,
Lowered
Front Mount Intercooler
External Automatic Cooler
Guages
BOV
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Registered: August 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 08:26
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DazbaVBZ wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 18:18 |
Mods
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Guages
BOV
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The essential mods.
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Location: Pine Rivers QLD
Registered: April 2005
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 08:55
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Fan just keeps the IC that bit cooler at idle, although no boost is being produced to the air temp difference between outside the intercooler and inside the intercooler is pretty much negligable.
The fan can also create a restriction a speed, especially if it is on all the time.
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 08:56
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mine is a hybri copy cooler and they can be had for around 200 bucks now nissan silvia .com has plenty for sale cheap so does ebay
and yeah the fan keeps the air flowing all the time so there isnt any heat soak around the radiator/intercooler which in turn keeps the intake charge cooler even on idle although its prob not going to be too much a difference but still helps when u have a big cooler witha fan blowing into it
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 09:01
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CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 18:55 | Fan just keeps the IC that bit cooler at idle, although no boost is being produced to the air temp difference between outside the intercooler and inside the intercooler is pretty much negligable.
The fan can also create a restriction a speed, especially if it is on all the time.
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yeah that too although im pretty sure the fan disengages at after ceratin rpm is reached and comes back on (clutch) when the car slows down
thats is what i think ive always wondered weter its always on
can someone clarify for me
but im happy with the fan as in summer with the cooler in the fron of the radiator there isnt much air flowing into the engine bay/radiator ,
so the fan being on at idle all the time helps to keep temp down which is why i havent removed it and gone electric thermos as they keep cutting in and out
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Location: Pine Rivers QLD
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 09:14
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i am fairly sure the "clutch" fan uses the clutch to start it spinning not disengages it at high RPM, but i could be wrong. IC can only get the air to ambient right? which is why the do nothing for NA cars (as they don't make the intake hot)?
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 09:17
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if you use an ice intercooler like the one on the 180sx with hilux motor i was reading about on the train ride home, you can get -20 and less intake temps iirc
also indian, you know you can wire up your thermos to an on/off switch, right?
danners did that i believe. he can turn his thermos on and off at will.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 09:19
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ndgcpr wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 17:14 | i am fairly sure the "clutch" fan uses the clutch to start it spinning not disengages it at high RPM, but i could be wrong. IC can only get the air to ambient right? which is why the do nothing for NA cars (as they don't make the intake hot)?
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Pretty much 100% correct here.
Clutch fans spin all the time at a reduced speed.
Only when the fluid gets hot do they spin at the same speed as the motor (or same speed as the waterpump)
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Wed, 07 September 2005 23:12
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CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 19:19 |
ndgcpr wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 17:14 | i am fairly sure the "clutch" fan uses the clutch to start it spinning not disengages it at high RPM, but i could be wrong. IC can only get the air to ambient right? which is why the do nothing for NA cars (as they don't make the intake hot)?
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Pretty much 100% correct here.
Clutch fans spin all the time at a reduced speed.
Only when the fluid gets hot do they spin at the same speed as the motor (or same speed as the waterpump)
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shiteeee all the time lollll imagine the amount of power the bastard uis robbing (joke)
yeah i thought they stopped workign when the Car got to a certain rpm /speed
And yeah merudo I know about the switch thingy but just decided I didn’t want to do it yet , if the clutch fan fails at some stage then maybe but yeah they make a horrible noise when the car is started
Cruzida what do u mean they start working as the same speed as the motor when the fluid is hot , do they have some sensor of some sort to tell them the fluid is getting really hot etc etc , as u can tell I know nothing about these fan things and maybe plenty other more to come loll
cheers
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 00:07
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indian wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 07:12 | Cruzida what do u mean they start working as the same speed as the motor when the fluid is hot , do they have some sensor of some sort to tell them the fluid is getting really hot etc etc , as u can tell I know nothing about these fan things and maybe plenty other more to come loll
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They have a viscous fluid in them which pulls itself around, it's all mechanical, no sensor or anything. Think of it like a simple version of a viscous LSD like in an S13 Silvia.
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Location: Pine Rivers QLD
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 00:23
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Merudo wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 19:17 |
danners did that i believe. he can turn his thermos on and off at will.
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I had that for a while but temp gauges are so inaccurate (esp the soarer ones) my car varies about 20 deg on the middle bar. so it was hard to know when to turn it on. i just kept getting scared and when ever the car was stopped i would turn it on. i actually drove back from the exhaust shop without the temp gauge working (its about 5 mins).
i know this was a silly thing to do but the worst thing was, you know how when they do a new exhaust it has a burning smell when you drive it for the first time. Yeah well i rock up at the first set of lights and was scared that the smell was my engine. i drove the rest of the way home with the fans on constantly and so scared.
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 00:30
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ndgcpr wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 10:23 |
Merudo wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 19:17 |
danners did that i believe. he can turn his thermos on and off at will.
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I had that for a while but temp gauges are so inaccurate (esp the soarer ones) my car varies about 20 deg on the middle bar. so it was hard to know when to turn it on. i just kept getting scared and when ever the car was stopped i would turn it on. i actually drove back from the exhaust shop without the temp gauge working (its about 5 mins).
i know this was a silly thing to do but the worst thing was, you know how when they do a new exhaust it has a burning smell when you drive it for the first time. Yeah well i rock up at the first set of lights and was scared that the smell was my engine. i drove the rest of the way home with the fans on constantly and so scared.
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That’s exactly whi I don’t want to do it that way as u wouldn’t know when to turn it on or off usually ud want it running when ur stopped at the lights behind other cars , traffic jams etc , and if u forgot to swtch it on , ur buggered
Better to leave it running all the time that switch it on and off and the factory one does just that
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 00:47
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get an aftermarket digital temp gauge then....
OR DONT HOOK UP A SWITCH LIKE THAT
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 00:48
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1) Walk into AutoParts store.
2) Purchase Tridon thermofan switch.
3) 95deg on, 90deg off.
4) Install.
5) Forget out switching fans.
6) ???
7) Profit.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Location: sydney, turramurra
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:27
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hey guys at WSID last nite i went in burnout comp
i gotta get a video uploaded cause pix dont do the justice
this is it
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Location: sydney, turramurra
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:27
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the tyres after
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:34
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MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 10:57 | 8 ) Much noodly appendage touching
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I've found myself touching my noodly appendage constantly since I began driving the new JZZ30 a couple of weeks ago.
So can I be part of this l337 club (thread) that I was too intimidated to even enter in the past? I drive a Soarer and someone once told me that I was cool...
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:38
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AE86slut wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 11:04 |
MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 10:57 | 8 ) Much noodly appendage touching
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I've found myself touching my noodly appendage constantly since I began driving the new JZZ30 a couple of weeks ago.
So can I be part of this l337 club (thread) that I was too intimidated to even enter in the past? I drive a Soarer and someone once told me that I was cool...
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wilkommen...
now
pics or ban slutty man
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Location: sydney, turramurra
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:55
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oh sweet u can upload movies.. my movie is 17mb..ill watch urs and check em out in my lunch br8k
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:59
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holy smoke
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 02:03
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TT_50AR wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 11:55 | oh sweet u can upload movies.. my movie is 17mb..ill watch urs and check em out in my lunch br8k
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I can to an extent, those are hosted on my web space.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 02:05
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nice work dude!
its good too see someone rip some skids
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 02:50
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Selling these for a mate:
MA70 Clutch LSD's
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 03:46
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Stupid question here
But what exactly are the benefits of having an lsd apart from the wheels spinning together at the same time (that’s all I know about them lol)
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 03:51
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I'm not gonna bother explaining the benefits, but just know that you can't drive the car hard without one.
Pro's outweigh the con eleventy billion to one.
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:04
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BUGGER THAT MUCH its a must ave for the hoons then
might look into that laterjust that i might be able to get hold of one from a ma70 non turbo is it worth putting it in the gz20 soarer soon to be running a t28 and manual box
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Location: Sydney
Registered: October 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:13
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Nice extended skiding session nathan
U evil soarer abuser
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:13
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its likely an MA70 non turbo wont have an LSD...
I have two for sale tho
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:28
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Merudo wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 10:36 |
1) he prefers pickup and is in brisbane
2) its auto
3) its from a chaser
4) thanks but nah
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The engine mounts are an interest though...
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Location: sydney, turramurra
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:30
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shanedawgg wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:13 | Nice extended skiding session nathan
U evil soarer abuser
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haha officer the accelarator got stuck.. im serious
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:49
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LSD.... eleventy billion to one eh?
safe odds
LSD = Slidin'
Using a truck lsd on a mate charger... regular road driving comes out like bloody initial d try outs.
had a look for personal loans on the web... for soarery goodness of course.
F#CK there are so many of those small buggers, little sharks with dick all interest for the first 6 months thent he price of your soul and your first born for the rest of it. BOLLOCKS to that i say. anyone know of a fixed interest lower than 10..% on a unsecured personal loan?
Pictures wise - any shots of manual conversion, pre op, post op and the gorey bits in between. preferably on z10 or z20 series soarers (for relativity, continuity and pure porny love). anyone done the manual conversion on gz20's and 21's esspecially.
i think garnish wise the mz12 would be piss easy having replaced the shifter aparatus once already (for those that need to know, 84 cressi shifters fit but good )
Damn, this weather (vic) is bloody awesome. makes me wanna slam the soarer and cruise round with a nice dame and some decent dub.
later
Phyro
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:05
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MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:13 | its likely an MA70 non turbo wont have an LSD...
I have two for sale tho
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I may be interested... as soon as i find out what diff i have!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:07
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post a picture of your build plate up and we can tell joo...well someone can
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:09
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Phyro wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:49 | LSD.... eleventy billion to one eh?
safe odds
LSD = Slidin'
Using a truck lsd on a mate charger... regular road driving comes out like bloody initial d try outs.
had a look for personal loans on the web... for soarery goodness of course.
F#CK there are so many of those small buggers, little sharks with dick all interest for the first 6 months thent he price of your soul and your first born for the rest of it. BOLLOCKS to that i say. anyone know of a fixed interest lower than 10..% on a unsecured personal loan?
Pictures wise - any shots of manual conversion, pre op, post op and the gorey bits in between. preferably on z10 or z20 series soarers (for relativity, continuity and pure porny love). anyone done the manual conversion on gz20's and 21's esspecially.
i think garnish wise the mz12 would be piss easy having replaced the shifter aparatus once already (for those that need to know, 84 cressi shifters fit but good )
Damn, this weather (vic) is bloody awesome. makes me wanna slam the soarer and cruise round with a nice dame and some decent dub.
later
Phyro
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what the #$%^ are you talking about?! hahaha
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:11
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MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 15:07 | post a picture of your build plate up and we can tell joo...well someone can
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I understand that you are selling these for a mate, so your answer might be biased... but in anyones opinion, would i be better going for one of these clutch type LSD's or spending the extra and getting a Torsen??
Dan
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:28
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Danners wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:41 |
MR 1JZ wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 15:07 | post a picture of your build plate up and we can tell joo...well someone can
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I understand that you are selling these for a mate, so your answer might be biased... but in anyones opinion, would i be better going for one of these clutch type LSD's or spending the extra and getting a Torsen??
Dan
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in my honest opinion it depends what you want...
the advantages of a clutch LSD are you can shim them very tightly and they respond to shock loading much better than a torsen making them better for drags and drift, whereas a torsen will provide a better circuit experience but they are substatially weaker when you unload large amounts of power into them
Cruz explained it better a while back
maybe ask him
also a torsen will set you back $450 for a second hand centre
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 08 September 2005 06:28
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what about a truetrac?
also chaser 1JZ mounts wont mean anything for us soarer owners
... will they?
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:06
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none of those pictures work.
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:15
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Merudo wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 10:06 | none of those pictures work.
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Premature Exclamation?
S'if I would allow inferior posts to leave my puter if i could help it? Hehehehehe not sure what happened though. fixed but.
P.
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:18
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What the shock! They were working just mere moments ago, and not as a preview post, as an actual post. gimme 5, i'll photobucket them
cheers
Phyro
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:26
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Merudo wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:28 | what about a truetrac?
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Considering the torque loadings experienced by some of the nutso 4WD's the Truetrac was designed for (i.e. massive tyres, stupidily low gearing) it should be fine. I'd be VERY surprised if it wasn't stronger than the JZA70 Torsen too.
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:27
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Eh, Sorry Lads n Lasses
Internet got broken.
Anyway, here's what I was drawing your attention to:
Those last two are Soapra's duh
Lets see if this works this time.
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:31
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OH MY GOD
KILL IT KILL IT
I seriously felt ill looking at that first car.
Is it made out of fucking cardboard?
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:33
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the fool who did that needs to be shot
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Location: Melb
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 00:53
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looks like plywood and silver spray paint.
bloody weak innit?
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Location: sydney
Registered: May 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 09 September 2005 03:20
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hey guys, could anyone here advise me on whether i can use all the air con gear from the soarer i'm wrecking which had the 7M in it, in my new soarer which has the 1j in it as it has had all the air con stuff wripped out thats meant to go under the bonnet.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: August 2005
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Location: Pine Rivers QLD
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 10 September 2005 00:08
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where did you find them, some you should probably put back
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: August 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 11 September 2005 08:30
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too stiff for me. I cover alot of kilometres, and my toosh couldnt handle those springs. ha. sold now anyway. thanks
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I Supported Toymods
Location: Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 11 September 2005 08:42
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Phyro wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 10:27 |
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Oh what? Is that an MA61 with an MZ11 front? *shudders*
(sorry to post here, but I do have an mz21 engine in my car )
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Registered: August 2002
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Location: sydney, turramurra
Registered: April 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 12 September 2005 01:47
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BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 19:22 | what is the diameter and width of a stock mz21 wheel?
EDIT: Also have an MZ21 airbag suspension motor/compressor from behind the front bar. Unknown working order, does anybody want it or i will bin it.
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ill take it..wher u located
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 13 September 2005 04:34
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Sorry to hear man , it’s a pity to see the soarer go and yeah they can be linked to speeding tik def (mine cost me $400) plus suspension for 6 months and 6 points off if it makes u feel any better
P.S – u might want to take the manual parts for sale advertisement off as I see ur selling the stuff with the car
Cheers
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Soarer owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 13 September 2005 04:41
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Depends if they want it, if the owner doesnt want it, then yeah
I know you said you wanted it, but if someone wants to purchase the car and wants that part, then it will just be easier to throw it in the boot of the car than to organise postage to melbourne
consider that "on hold" for now
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