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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Thu, 02 September 2004 07:01
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Heya,
I am currently looks for a set of adjustable cam gears for the 1G, currently I havent found any for my motor, but someone at Jaustech said that 4AGE or 7MGTE gears may fit, if this is correct please let me know fairly soon as I have found a set of 4AGE adjustables for $130
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Location: newcastle nsw
Registered: May 2002
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Fri, 03 September 2004 02:24
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hks, look on christians website
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Sat, 04 September 2004 02:12
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I am aslo interested in this. Will it work with the stock computer and what are the benefits? PS: Where is this HKS site..whats the address.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Plumpton/sydney
Registered: November 2003
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Mon, 06 September 2004 13:34
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You wont find any info on the hks website you would be better off sending SUPRA MAN a PM about it
BEN
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Mon, 06 September 2004 23:11
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The benefit of cam gears is the ability to adjust your cam timing. If you don't know why this would be beneficial, I'd suggest buying cam gears isn't a wise investment.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Tue, 07 September 2004 01:27
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Norbie wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 08:41 | The benefit of cam gears is the ability to adjust your cam timing. If you don't know why this would be beneficial, I'd suggest buying cam gears isn't a wise investment.
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Norbie you crack me up
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:22
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First all i know all about cam advancement and retardation. Duration lift and you name it. I drag race V8 regularly and have build my own engine. I don't care much for turbos and modern buzz boxes. I just wanted to make this soarer have a bit more poke as its my daily trasher. I know advancing the cam can give you more midrange and top end but sacrifice bottom end. I just don't see it would work wit the stock computer. Norbie if you have nothing informative to say then say nothing at all.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:51
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norbie is just an elitest and thats that
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Tue, 07 September 2004 03:58
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You're not worthy.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Tue, 07 September 2004 05:18
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Norbie wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 13:28 | You're not worthy.
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what if I bow down??
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: October 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 10:11
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got a link for christians website?? and is "SUPRA MAN"s user id spelt that way? spaces etc...
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 10:25
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BLK1GGTE wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:22 | First all i know all about cam advancement and retardation. Duration lift and you name it. I drag race V8 regularly and have build my own engine. I don't care much for turbos and modern buzz boxes. I just wanted to make this soarer have a bit more poke as its my daily trasher. I know advancing the cam can give you more midrange and top end but sacrifice bottom end. I just don't see it would work wit the stock computer. Norbie if you have nothing informative to say then say nothing at all.
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why would it not work with the stock computer? if you change it that much, maybe engine won't run at all
since all you are really doing is altering the sequence of events, particularly lobe angle and overlap, then the ECU should still have no issues (since it is working on airflow, not cam timing)
unless it has CAS or VVT on the camand that is what you are worried about??
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 13:02
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Hey oldcorrolas, where did you dig this tread up
Hehe I should apologise to norbie for going off at him
Anyways while being true what you have said, advancing the cam on my 1g would not give me much benefits in my opinion as I already have too much lag down the bottom, so more power on top would make it even worse then it is at the moment...
What I have been thinking about but is to put a set of Gen3 1ggte cams... I seen gold28 say that the Gen 2 cams are restrictive when he swapped to a Gen 2 engine only while retaining Gen 3 turbo and all other bits... so I am still trying to find some Gen3 1g cams as I think this would be more efficient...What do you think???
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Location: Toronto, Downtown
Registered: September 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 13:21
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BLK1GGTE wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:22 | I don't care much for turbos and modern buzz boxes.
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y dont you drive a v8 everyday instead
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 14:29
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4age I don't want to get into this argument....it’s stupid, and I made a stupid comment so lets just forget it...and I do love my jap cars....
As for driving a v8 everyday I did do that until I pulled the thing of the road to change the engine....but with today’s petrol prices you really start to appreciate the technology u get from a 2 lt turbo motor...
Lets just forget that childish comment I made ok...I appreciate all cars, that was me just ranting on...
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 14:50
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BLK1GGTE wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 23:02 | Hey oldcorrolas, where did you dig this tread up
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OMG, i'm so sorry i just looked at date and didn't notice hickozdude had dragged it up from a year ago....
wonder if he had been waiting all this time??
and wtf are you looking for supraman for.... no doubt he is still peddling his wares on other forums, but no longer is toymods sponsor.. talk to importbitz
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 14:53
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as for 2L turbo....
if you make the power, you hbve to pay the fuel price for that power, regardless of engine size.... for tootling around, it7s a little more to do with car weight, but all modern engines make good numbers on the highway..
and they all still suck in city traffic
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 14:58
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Very true, you can't have something for nothing, lol but my old v8 is old school carbie with 4.11 in the ass with 3 speed so it goggles just idling lol...
But i love it for its simplicity..
But yeah you can't beat modern engines for their "cruse" efficiency...and car putting out same power regardless of displacement will use the same amount of fuel....
But yeah what do u think of the cam replacement idea oldcorolas....
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 15:04
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umm, depends on the number i guess.... more lift = always good ...
for turbo go as small an overlap as you can without choking top end too much, and duration?? well, that depends how nasty you want to get with ramp rates and springs
what are the specs of the different gen cams??
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Location: South Eastern Subs
Registered: March 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Wed, 07 September 2005 15:15
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I know about the overlap, as NA car like cams with say 108/110 and turbo/blown are better with 112/114 overlap. I know turbo prefer a bit of delayed exaust valve to spool the turbo but i don't know if the stock cams are designed this way.
The thing is i don't know the specification diffrence beetween the cams, if i did it would make everything easy, all i know is what i read on here from gold28, and what he has gathered is with a gen 2 engine he was able to run 19psi and it felt the same as gen3 engine on 14 psi...what do u think. Sounds like the exause side of the cam is diffrent..or am i wrong
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Location: Canberra
Registered: January 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Thu, 08 September 2005 01:42
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BLK1GGTE wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 01:15 | The thing is i don't know the specification diffrence beetween the cams, if i did it would make everything easy, all i know is what i read on here from gold28, and what he has gathered is with a gen 2 engine he was able to run 19psi and it felt the same as gen3 engine on 14 psi...what do u think. Sounds like the exause side of the cam is diffrent..or am i wrong
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i'd actually like to know the answer to this as i'm currently rebuilding my 1g and i'd like to put cams in which will give me the most lift/duration
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: October 2004
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Re: CAM Gears for 1GGTE
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Thu, 08 September 2005 03:58
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Quote: | putting out same power regardless of displacement will use the same amount of fuel....
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not entirely, although all things being equal yes... comes down to efficiency, but that's a discussion for another time and place
so anyone know about vernier cam gears for the 1GGTE?
P.S. sorry for digging it up.. i searched for the forums, and foun the day and month was the same... didn't look as far as the year... lol... consider it the 1 year anniversary of the last post... and that i just thought it was a current thread
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