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SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Thu, 08 September 2005 08:54 Go to next message
I did a search for "boost" & "sc12", nuthin came up so....

What are the actual psi that an sc12 and an sc14 run at?
And with 175 pulleys if someone has that answer too...
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Thu, 08 September 2005 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1200 & 1400 CC per revolution.. then you need to work out how much volume it uses.. the excess that the charger produces will be the positive pressure you will see,

so in essence the ammount of pressure will be dependant on the size of your engine, volumetric efficency, the relation between crank rpm and charger rpm

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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toof wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 18:57

1200 & 1400 CC per revolution.. then you need to work out how much volume it uses.. the excess that the charger produces will be the positive pressure you will see,

so in essence the ammount of pressure will be dependant on the size of your engine, volumetric efficency, the relation between crank rpm and charger rpm



Relationship of presure, dependant on engine size????
Well I was just after a basic psi reading off a boost gauge. And as psi stood for pressure per square inch I'm pretty sure..... I would think it would not be dependant on engine size...
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no_tofu_speed wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 13:34

Relationship of presure, dependant on engine size????
Well I was just after a basic psi reading off a boost gauge. And as psi stood for pressure per square inch I'm pretty sure..... I would think it would not be dependant on engine size...

On the contrary dude, all boost pressure is, is air that the engine is having trouble ingesting, hence it shows up as positive pressure in the manifold.
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well you can have your SC12 with stock pulleys the straight way, OR you can get experimental and try it with baked beans on toast
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if your talking about a 4agze then the sc12 stock runs at between 6-8 psi and with a nevo 175mm pulley it runs between 11-14 psi (this is in combination with the stock s/c pulley) as for the sc14 i have no idea.
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh.... ok thankyou....
cleared up and more knowledge for me... yay
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Converting SC12 boost to SC14 boost.

Boost using SC 14 = ((Boost using SC12 + 14.7) * 1.4/1.2) - 14.7

Given the same pulleys, all units being psi, and being a rough guide.
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bloody rocket scientist rooster!

I am guessing the 1.2 and 1.4 is the CC of the 2 units, but whats the 14.7?
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Fri, 09 September 2005 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
atmospheric pressure i would assume
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A REAL SC14 BOOST LEVEL Sun, 11 September 2005 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

4AGZE uses SC12, 1200cc/rev
1GGZE uses SC14, 1420cc/rev

All AW11s I have ever seen (read LOTS) run about 8psi stock, unless their supercharger is stuffed or the belt is completely stuffed or loose, on there is leak in the inlet system.

My opinion is that while anything is possible, don't push an SC12 past about 14psi as I have seen atleast two with stuffed rotor coatings from hard use at this overdrive ratio. A Stock 'ZE AFM ECU with kill your engine above 14psi by leaning _right_ out due to (I hypothesize) thinking the AFM output must be bullocks!

My 4AGZE now, running a Suby intercooler, 168mm crank, 120mm levin SC12 pulley which I transplanted onto the SC14 makes just over 18psi from about 3000rpm up, there is about 12psi avaliable from 2000rpm. I _think_ there is about 1.5psi gained from my less restrictive inlet system (70mm pipe, bigger IC, 60mm throttle)

My current overdrive ratio (which I use now with an SC14), when used with the SC12 on my unmodified otherwise stock AW11-GZE engine gave 11.5 PSI pressure at the manifold, which is still a nice improvement over stock.

Cheers, Nick

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Re: A REAL SC14 BOOST LEVEL Sun, 11 September 2005 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the stock 4agze throttle body in puny
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Mon, 12 September 2005 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I built a 4K with EFI and a SC12 (4KZE) running 1:1 pullies it makes 10 psi boost at 3800 rpm and about 3-5 psi from 1500 rpm up.
SC14 will not physicaly fit on a 4k so its not a option Sad
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Re: SC12 & SC14 actual boost levels? Tue, 20 September 2005 20:27 Go to previous message
NickZ wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 13:46

SC14 will not physicaly fit on a 4k so its not a option Sad

What do mean Surprised
because I'm thinking something like that Evil or Very Mad

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