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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
woot!!

new rear B6 bilsteins PN# B46-0306...



http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/cd/96/f4_1_b.JPG

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 11:43

woot!!

new rear B6 bilsteins PN# B46-0306...



http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/cd/96/f4_1_b.JPG


Noice.

How much and what are they meant to fit ?

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
from here:
http://www.quadrantsuspensions.com.au/pdf/Bilstein %20B6.pdf

mz10/mz12 soarer
gx71 mk2 chaser
xa61 supra/celica/cressida/cresta
xz63 carina

US$100 plus shipping
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 12:02

from here:
http://www.quadrantsuspensions.com.au/pdf/Bilstein %20B6.pdf

mz10/mz12 soarer
gx71 mk2 chaser
xa61 supra/celica/cressida/cresta
xz63 carina

US$100 plus shipping



Did well.

When I rang Bilstein in Sydney, there wasn't anything off the shelf, but they quoted mega buck to make something fit !!!!
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bbaacchhyy wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 12:44


When I rang Bilstein in Sydney, there wasn't anything off the shelf, but they quoted mega buck to make something fit !!!!



same here... $1100 for custom made and valved shocks Rolling Eyes

"nothing available off the shelf"

the B46-0306 doesnt seem to be in production anymore, but is fully rebuildable, so im not that worried. i nearly fell over when this pair came up on ebay.

now to find me some rav4 front B6's or something
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Supra (MA70) Coupe 2WD
3.0 24V (TEMS), 3.0 Turbo 01.86- 05.93 B46-1125 F S A B46-1126 F S A

hmmm TEMS compatable?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nah, not tems compatible... i found some wired info about that too, but its not the case, the B46-0306 wont mount on the ma70's rear mount, so it simply cant be the same shock.

as far as tech stuff goes, a good read here:
http://www2.bilstein.de/en/produkte/kennlinien.php 3
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 13:15

nah, not tems compatible... i found some wired info about that too, but its not the case, the B46-0306 wont mount on the ma70's rear mount, so it simply cant be the same shock.

as far as tech stuff goes, a good read here:
http://www2.bilstein.de/en/produkte/kennlinien.php 3

im talking about B46-1125 and B46-1126, digrams of the models available?

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
call bilstein in sydenham and ask them about those model numbers. i have no idea... though doubt it
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 14 April 2005 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bitch! get my hopes up Razz ..... *adds to ebay watch list*
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 16 April 2005 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thought you would've just waited til you went to germany?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Tue, 19 April 2005 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmmm,

another bargain fell at my feet today...

AUD$50 including toll-ipec courier to my door Nod (i dont feel so bad about blowing $ on the bilsteins anymore)

ma70 1" bore brake master cyl complete assembly

happy happy happy

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Tue, 19 April 2005 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im planing this for the ma45 Ed.. note the shorter stroke of the ma70 MC! dont forget to adjust your pedal/push linkage pivot point id say!
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Tue, 19 April 2005 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 22:01

hmmm,

another bargain fell at my feet today...

AUD$50 including toll-ipec courier to my door Nod (i dont feel so bad about blowing $ on the bilsteins anymore)

ma70 1" bore brake master cyl complete assembly

happy happy happy




Did well Ed. Mine cost me a little more, but looks much shinier !!!!

Not sure on whether I'll fit it, but it will probably be required.

Allan,

How do you know the MA70 MC has a shorter stroke (than the MA61 unit) ? How much is the difference ?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if it is a shorter stroke, that could actually be a good thing... pedal will be nice and uber stiff...

wont need or want to move the linkage points/ratio
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you going to use the MA70 booster, or keep the MA61 unit ?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 11:24

if it is a shorter stroke, that could actually be a good thing... pedal will be nice and uber stiff...

wont need or want to move the linkage points/ratio


wouldnt more leverage be better then a hard pedal? will also be more progressive with revised linkage point?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 12:48

Are you going to use the MA70 booster, or keep the MA61 unit ?


*shrugs*

figure that bit out later

allan - i like the feel of a firmer brake pedal.
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 22:03

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 12:48

Are you going to use the MA70 booster, or keep the MA61 unit ?


*shrugs*

figure that bit out later

allan - i like the feel of a firmer brake pedal.



I'm with Ed, I like "feel" in my pedal.

I'm also with him to see how it works out Very Happy
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Wed, 20 April 2005 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd defeintly fit a brace to the master cyl i was watching Tim's (you know zzt..blah something) damn lot of movement when pumping the brakes
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 21 April 2005 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Allan wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 09:24

i'd defeintly fit a brace to the master cyl i was watching Tim's (you know zzt..blah something) damn lot of movement when pumping the brakes


Noted Wink
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 21 April 2005 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Allan wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 09:54

i'd defeintly fit a brace to the master cyl i was watching Tim's (you know zzt..blah something) damn lot of movement when pumping the brakes

Yep, that's me, the master cylinder & booster moves a fair bit Sad

I'll post pics when I have time to pop over and when Allan has time to make one Very Happy

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 05 May 2005 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WOOT!!!

another bargain Nod

near new sparco pro2000 seat... my new drivers seat, with the passenger now forever condemned to sitting in the evo hehehehe....

i love my car Very Happy
go! project 'oscar'

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 05 May 2005 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmm comfort.. ohhh opps wrong threed Razz
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 05 May 2005 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Allan wrote on Thu, 05 May 2005 23:40

mmm comfort.. ohhh opps wrong threed Razz


you kidding me allan?? seriously, mate these are SOOO goddamn comfortable. id prefer to sit in this all day long than anything else.

infact after a long day at work, there is almost nothing better than going and sitting in my car. i wish all my chairs were as supportive and comfortable as these

hot diggity


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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Thu, 05 May 2005 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok ill reserve final judgement....

ill look after your car while your away if you want Smile
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 06 May 2005 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No it can come back to my garage where it never should have left without being finished.

Strange how I'll end up sitting up in a seat I used to sit in. But it'll be on the other side of the car. Oh well, NEV need some welding done. Actually he's got a TIG now... Very Happy
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 06 May 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
clubagreenie wrote on Fri, 06 May 2005 20:42

No it can come back to my garage where it never should have left without being finished.



yeah, youve got a point, but at least i gave my dad his car back...

i wish i had a big garage, lots of time, and 2 skilled people around all the time
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 06 May 2005 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, return the pale blue camry with BHG
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Good god... first update since may No No No thats embarrassing

anyway, justin's garage is still dirty, and yet he wants me to drop more shit over at his house an incentive to turn up and get work done. go figure, sadistic bastard.

the sparco is finally in my posession, and fuck me what a comfy seat. need to rig up some side rail mounts, and get that installed ASAP, me want to sit in it already...

looks like dave is selling me his port 2jz head too, nil complaint about that either:

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/2jzge/images/headporting/intake.jpg

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/2jzge/images/headporting/exhaust.jpg

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/2jzge/images/headporting/exhaust2.jpg

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/2jzge/images/headporting/2jzgeflowgraph.jpg

the manifold is still dragging its feet. seems that forming 55mm alloy pipe from a circle to a sqaure-like oval over 80mm length is a bit tough. be damned im paying someone $80/hr to do it for me though. looks like this could take a while. currently looking at getting a block of nylon, cnc'ing the oval shape into it, then cutting in half, and using it as a die in a press to crush the pipe...

dont even ask me about the brake No No No

on the upside, i did get the old girl tinted today (15%!!) and she looks fantatsic. pics when i get around to it. at least this way if i do get pulled over, its make peering into the back and seeing all the 'bad' stuff less likely...

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tint pics or impound supra

The only thing to flow more air than that head would be bubbles.

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, 150cfm at 450thou is pretty sex inducing

i hope the throttle bodies can deal with it ok Rolling Eyes airspeed is going to be FUCKIN quick through there ~ right around 300ft/sec

ok ok pics from the garage when i go down there later...
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
daves uber port head not bad.

i bet u tried to get him to chuck in thise ITB's and motec into the deal as well, you wouldnt be Ed otherwise Laughing

when u gonna come visit us again biatch slap?
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nah, i didnt bargain for anything...
...god, what am i doing Shocked Confused Shocked

i should atleast fish for the cams too. yeah i dunno, whats doing these days, what are folks doing? wheres the action at?

heres some pics of the port orientation of the 2jz head:

linked from discussion:
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=47927&prevloaded=1&rid=92&S=27ae3290 af05a5aa40370c72e8457f23&rev=&reveal=& start=0&count=20

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=getfile&id=7235

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=getfile&id=7236

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmmmmm i see a 6m-ge and MA45 in those extractors / bottom end's future and a GT3540 and motec in the heads future...


Ahhh yes yes!

i see it now!!!


something like this hopefully

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 09 September 2005 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
more bits o stuff - the crank scraper...

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 10 September 2005 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tint photo... tken at 11pm with a crappy camera in my underground carpark...

but you get the idea... its rather dark Nod Very Happy

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 10 September 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Good thing I'll be reading a map 'cause you'll be fucked trying to see around corners.
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 10 September 2005 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
clubagreenie wrote on Sat, 10 September 2005 22:58

Good thing I'll be reading a map 'cause you'll be fucked trying to see around corners.


its actually freakily good from the inside

worst case scenario - race with the windows down and NASCAR nets up Nod

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 10 September 2005 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You want the cams too? 304, 262 @ 50 thou, 0.435" lift - absolutely farken sick cams.

I'm going to pull the VVTi motor apart next week and make sure I can't do anything with them.

Also getting price on Argos next week - be much cheaper to buy 12 rather than 6.....
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 16 September 2005 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
battery relocation begins Smile

hella isolation switch
50mm^2 wiring (0ga?)
300A fuse & holder (3.5secs @ 600A)
full criped terminals, brass bits and hoods etc

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Fri, 16 September 2005 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cost of said shiny bits?
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0ga wiring $12.20/m
crimp terminals $2.49/ea
brass battery terminals $4.95/ea
rubber hoods $2.90/ea
fuse holder $32.50/ea
300A fuse $13.50/es
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 01 October 2005 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
updated pics on the first page...

but here they are again anyway Nod

i think this was the first time ive actually washed her since i originally painted her Rolling Eyes

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 01 October 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You need those 5stud rims STAT.
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 01 October 2005 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i only have 1 really shit photo of my new rims Sad
17x7.5" +0ET wearing 235/45/17
reasonable dish at the rim edge, then gets deeper to the hub face.
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compared to above pics with car wearing 215/65/14 Rolling Eyes

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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Sat, 01 October 2005 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Looks nice... The paint job looks good in those photos but i'll reserve judgement until I see it Razz
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Tue, 04 October 2005 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fuck! they are the exact wheels i keep seeing on a ford that i want for my car!

they're gonna look great man Very Happy keeping them silver?
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Evil_Foetus wrote on Tue, 04 October 2005 17:51

fuck! they are the exact wheels i keep seeing on a ford that i want for my car!

they're gonna look great man Very Happy keeping them silver?


yup, got mine off a ford too, up in tamworth Nod

$500 including x4 f1 tyres

and teah, keeping them silver, though i may throw a coat of tint overthem to drop them a level of transparent black...
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Re: Ed's MA-61 Supra Tue, 04 October 2005 14:03 Go to previous message
that will look fantastic. keen to see the 2jzge n/a monster in full flight too.

all you sydney boys need to bring your supras to ballarat Evil or Very Mad
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