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MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 04:39
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HI guys,
Just went to my local wreckers and found some beauties.
Well, kinda.
I found an MS65, and hurridly went to ripping off the front hub.
Did one side, then went to the other, only to find some had already taken the whole assembly... shit.
However, right next to it, i found a MS68 (or mx68???, i forget  ), and after a abit, i had both hubs off allong with the discs.
By eye, it would seem they use the same bearings and are physically the same size. The MS65's discs were thicker however, but both disc's fitted on the other hubs.
Question is, can these be used for the 5stud conversion for the front of the ma61?
Ive included pics below.
Thanks!!!
MS68 Hub
Side View Of both Hubs
Top View Of Both Hubs
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Hawthorn, Vic
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March 2005
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 06:27
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I've done abit more digging about... and just by the shape, they seems to resemble the ms123 hubs.... which isnt good 
see here http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61 /fronthub.html
But, still.. i havnt been able to find any information about the actual car model (ms68) 
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 13:34
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Well you sure the bearings are the same? Check numbers, and most importantly swap them around see how they fit. I've used UZS131 hubs twice now in place of MS65 ones, and with a bit of lathe work they do the job nicely...
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 15:45
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MS85 bearings are different - bigger inner and outer diameters than MS65.
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 20:44
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Youu should be able to take both bearings to a bearing shop and tell them you want this inner and that outer. Best of both worlds.
Alternately may only need a sleeve on the stub if it won't match exactly.
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 20:55
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From memory, the sleeve would need to be something like 1mm (or less) thick, so pretty bloody tricky to machine up.
Do the mix'n'match bearing and race thing.....just make sure everything is at the right angle.
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sat, 10 September 2005 20:58
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You can get "speedy sleeves" for resrfacing seal/bearing surfaces. In like 0.1mm sizes
And answer youe pms ya bum
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Hawthorn, Vic
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 00:51
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grr, so they are different, spectacular!
i might wander to a bearing shop and see what they can do for me...
alternativly.. i could try and find 1 ms65 hub
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 02:03
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Yeah, thing is I spent a while with a catalogue and couldn't find a bearing combination to match, so I got a cup and cone to fit the stub and with a bigger OD, then machined the hub out to suit. I then had no trouble finding a seal that fitted as well.
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 08:11
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| clubagreenie wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 06:44 |
Youu should be able to take both bearings to a bearing shop and tell them you want this inner and that outer. Best of both worlds.
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been here, tried this, doesnt work, and not safe 
and sleeving is quote tricky
finding 1x MS65 hub is by far the better option.
i still find it hard to belive i managed to create such a stir with this whole ms65 thing. single handedly drove prices up 1000%
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 08:47
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 17:41 |
i still find it hard to belive i managed to create such a stir with this whole ms65 thing. single handedly drove prices up 1000%
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Wreckers dont know the difference.
I managed to pick up a pair for $35ea a few months ago 
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 11:07
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yes Ed, you are a god
yeah, i recon ill try finding another hub, or go the z31t path
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 11:12
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 18:11 |
i still find it hard to belive i managed to create such a stir with this whole ms65 thing.
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Who provided the original information?
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 11:54
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| gianttomato wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 21:12 |
Who provided the original information?
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i have 12 pages of repco database dump that says it wasnt you, dave
hehehe, nah im not saying the sun shines out my arse, im just saying, from what started as a convo between dave and myself, followed by a load of wrecker crawling, a triumphant woohoo, then the resultant sledging from the supraforums.com guys, its kinda eery to see such a worldwide interest in these bits, and private sales of these hubs going for almost $200 pair...
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: MS86 - MS65 Hubs
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Sun, 11 September 2005 12:09
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...and to think, I took an old 65 to the crusher a couple of years ago. With hubs...
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