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1JRocket
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Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 02:42 Go to next message
Now I know there are a heap of you 1j people out there and I'm sure you are all starting to feel the price of fuel.

So what sort of figures are you getting per 100k and how can we make ours better.

I have a 1J cressida with standard jzx81 set up but the cressidas exhaust and am getting 18-20L per 100k. I need to get that down and I'm going to start with a proper exhaust.

Suggestions?
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Norbie
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy crap, is that normal fuel consumption? I get around 12L/100km with my 2JZ!
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draven
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
was gonna say, that's terrible fuel economy.

even tho norbs and I have a few hundred less kgs, it shouldn't make that much difference (and I'm running aftermarket management, which should make it even worse). have you done a standard service on it recently? (timing, plugs, fluids, etc?) any error codes on your ecu? (like for a busted o2 sensor, which can ruin fuel economy?)
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AE82TwinCam
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Geez, in my JZA70 I'll get 450k's out of 60L. Which I don't think is terrible for a boosted 1j..
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Chris Davey
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I get about 250kms out of 30L in my single turbo 1jz corona. Answer the questions in the pm here mate as other people will use that info. as well Smile

That is mainly highway and some racing (at drags). 4.6:1 diff, 3100rpm on highway and 1340kg with 2 people in it.

[Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 05:29]

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dingaling
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whats that mainly city or highway driving?

There is a big difference in economy with those two.

Mine is great on fuel on the highway and also WAY WAY better on 98octane fuel. City driving with tasmania fuel and a short ratio diff is horrendous.
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Alchemist
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
98 octance fuel in Sydney at the moment is 1.52/L Sad
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jackel
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just wait to christmas when the price of fuel is said to hit $2/litre. Sad
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1JRocket
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My cressida is an auto and has the standard turbos, JZX81 ecu, standard fuel pressure regulator.

The water temp looks normal on the cressida temp gauge - in the middle and steady.

I put in new plugs, did the timming and all fluids about 2000ks ago.

It is a heavy Cressida, but it shouldn't be worse than my 4L ford LTD.

What should I do to sort this out? Exhaust? Put on my 2 new Trust turbos? A proper exhaust? Dyno?
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Driftspec
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 06 September 2005 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Get the thing dyno'd to see what the AFR is through the rev range... 1JZ's are known to run pretty rich from factory. Something like a SAFC should help curve that issue if that is the problem.
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Chris Davey
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 07 September 2005 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Does it run strangely at all? Something doesn’t seem right.

A SAFC will help but I think there is something else at fault here.

BTW the Toyota gauges are not very accurate at all. I would pull the thermostat out and check that as another guy here had terrible fuel economy and found that the be the cause.
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1JZ.747
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 07 September 2005 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meh, you have got nothing

try 26litres per hundred
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1JRocket
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 07 September 2005 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anyone with a copy of the current Zoom should be able to figure out what is going on with you.

I am running a stock 1J. Not a close to 10 second weapon!
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Merudo
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 07 September 2005 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shane's 1JZ-747 is completely stock!

What gave you the idea it was modded?!


nothing done to that engine whatsoever
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Ribfeast
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Thu, 08 September 2005 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a 1JZ Cressida and use about 14-15L per 100km around town. Did about 80kms on my current tank around town, then drove to Sydney (from Newcastle), did 4 passes at WSID, and drove home, and still have around 1/4 to 1/6 of a tank left. Will work out the fuel economy when I fill up next, driving the Mazda MX6 at the moment until next week, in the hope that fuel prices might fall slightly.
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crazymax
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Fri, 09 September 2005 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im getting about 14L/100klm in my standard 1j soarer.

bit better on highway though dont know the actual figures

in the latest zoom they say 13L per 100klms as tested on the 1j soarer

these fuel prices are stupid!!!!

if it hits $2 a litre i'll be riden my bike to work!!!!
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Southo
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Fri, 09 September 2005 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2JZ in Cressida, filled up yesterday 403km for 56 Litres (100% city running)
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Mofo III
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Sat, 10 September 2005 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1550kg wet JZA70 m/t twin dumps > 3" exhaust > pod filter. 10:1 AFR from 5000rpm (no fuel computers). 246rwhp.
city driving peak our traffic 7 days. when its not peak hour the 1J gets hurt.

63L U98 go in tank, 523km come out.

12.046L p/100kms. ...pretty happy with that.
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Mofo III
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Sat, 10 September 2005 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gg toymods timing out.

[Updated on: Sat, 10 September 2005 02:52]

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1JRocket
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 13 September 2005 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You are all getting a heap better economy than me. Even when you are driving like nuters.

I called my mate at Toyota today and he almost dropped the phone when I told him I was getting 100k to 20L.

He told me to bridge the diagnostic plug on the engine loom and then turn the ignition and watch the dash. The dash is out of the Cressida and not the Cresta but I'll see if it does any funky flashing type stuff.

I'll keep you posted.
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Mofo III
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 13 September 2005 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i drove it till it started missing from fuel starvation the other night (wasn't boosting)... 549.5kms, squeezed in a tad under 67L. thats a new record for me. Very Happy
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Tue, 13 September 2005 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Soarer JZZ30 auto. About 12/13 litres per 100 km. Mostly motorway. Cruising at 120kph / 150 kph depending on the likelihood of camera vans Smile (in the UK)

and we are paying around a pound (about 2.37 Australian dollars) for 98 octane -- 70 pounds / over 160 dollars to fill the tank
Sad.
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TRD_Supra
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 14 September 2005 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked do many people drive other there anymore ?
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Chris Davey
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 14 September 2005 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Those UK prices are ridiculous! How can anyone afford to drive?

I suppose you have a better public transport system than Australia. But then again who doesn't!
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Corona RT142
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 14 September 2005 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
much lower taxes on diesel though, and there wages are much higher than ours, have a look at a british nurses wage then convert it to aus dollars and compare to the aus wage and you'll be shocked. But the tube system is very good.
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wumpagrande1992
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 14 September 2005 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MX83 Cressida, 1JZ-GTE, auto, twin dumps, 3'' exhaust, standard air box, 1550kg. Driving 70% highway, 30% town/thrashing I got an average of 12.8l/100k.

I also changed the thermostat and checked all plugs and connections on the ignition sysyem and it helped. Before this it was nearly as thirsty as 1JRocket's.
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1JRocket
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Re: Fuel costs sooo much and my 1JZ is THIRSTY Wed, 14 September 2005 23:22 Go to previous message
In Australia I'm a well paid IT professional, when I was in London I got paid the same wage for working in a wreckers dissmanteling rusty 90's model cars.

That is how they can afford the petrol. When wages and all that are taken into account I found it to be about the same for petrol, but rego and insurance was REALLY cheap there.
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