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differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:29
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whats the diff between the supercharged motor and the na motor? i heard its only the wiring ecu and like 2 extra teeth on the crank but seriously can i get away with putting a supercharger on an na motor and just change the harness and ecu? would it got relitively the same or would it just detonate to bits?
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ballarat
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April 2003
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 08 September 2005 04:32
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im not an expert, but from reading other threads gze pistons are forged i think
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 08 September 2005 05:05
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detonation central.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 08 September 2005 07:44
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if you run an aftermaket ecu then it would be fine with gze injectors and the like but why not go turbo its much easier and a better option really
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parra
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June 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 08 September 2005 13:19
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i was kinda trying out the go cheap option turbo would be sweet but big money for the manifold
think the best option would be to just get an actual gze with maybe a larger charger for now
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Location:
London
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July 2004
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Fri, 09 September 2005 02:54
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| lowAE92 wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:29 |
i heard its only the wiring ecu and like 2 extra teeth on the crank
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2 extra what?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Fri, 09 September 2005 04:43
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| lowAE92 wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 23:19 |
i was kinda trying out the go cheap option turbo would be sweet but big money for the manifold
think the best option would be to just get an actual gze with maybe a larger charger for now
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there are pleanty of 2nd hand fwd 4age turbo manifolds floating arround it wouldnt take long to find one with a turbo quite cheap
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brisbane
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September 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Fri, 09 September 2005 12:48
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umm ok heres a thought.. buy a 4a-gze with loom and all, pull out the ge shove the gze in get here goin and sell the ge with loom, u wouldnt spend much then, plus u know its gonna work 
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Location:
parra
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June 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Mon, 12 September 2005 12:56
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i thought about that but im a bit dissapointed i drove my mates gze powered rolla and really it wasnt that much better i was stunned
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brisbane
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September 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Mon, 12 September 2005 13:10
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jeeze u serious?? what ge u have and wat gze he have?? what cars are they in?? surely the z has a lot better torque? be a lazier drive i woulda thought?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Mon, 12 September 2005 13:59
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there is a huge difference between the gze and the gz even in 20v form
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Mon, 12 September 2005 14:00
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| oldcorollas wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 12:54 |
| lowAE92 wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:29 |
i heard its only the wiring ecu and like 2 extra teeth on the crank
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2 extra what?
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sydney
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September 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Tue, 13 September 2005 13:04
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the gze motor is that same as a red top 4A or the 7 rib block but the GZE has low compression forged pistons were the NA has a higher 9.1 comp
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Tue, 13 September 2005 13:34
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There are a number of external and easy to recognise differences between GE and GZE (like twin coils, injectors and believe it or not a supercharger), but from my snooping it seems that for a given year of build, the ONLY internal differences are the piston and rings. Everything else is identical GE to GZE.
Hen
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Location:
parra
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June 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Tue, 13 September 2005 14:54
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the gze i drove was in a csi same shape as mine
it did have a whole lotta torque which was good everyone keeps sayin stuff the gze get a black top sounds like a good option
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Tue, 13 September 2005 15:52
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lowAE92,
was it a MAP sensed GZE or AFM one?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Tue, 13 September 2005 22:20
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lowAE92,
was it a MAP sensed GZE or AFM one?
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this dosent make a whole lot of difference they would both be quick
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Location:
ACT
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October 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Wed, 14 September 2005 00:12
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze Wed, 14 September 2005 00:54
the gze i drove was in a csi same shape as mine
it did have a whole lotta torque which was good everyone keeps sayin stuff the gze get a black top sounds like a good option
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a black top...
Also what is the difference between a 20v and standard 4agze..
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Wed, 14 September 2005 00:22
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there are 2 versions of the 20v 4age a blacktop version and a silvertop version
The 20v motors main difference from the 4agze is higher compression 20 valves instead of 16 and its n/a instead of supercharged
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Location:
parra
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June 2005
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Re: differences between 4age and 4agze
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Thu, 15 September 2005 11:48
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blacktops also have vvt dont they? in all my years at toyota ive never seen a blacktop in the flesh
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