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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 13 September 2005 13:35
 
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You'd probably find that most wreckers have already been picked clean of those lip bits, but you never know your luck! I dont recall adrian ever having a GT4 front bar... 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 13 September 2005 15:02
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Good point, just saw the fog lights and thought it was one
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 13 September 2005 23:48
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| charliechalk wrote on Wed, 14 September 2005 01:02 |
Good point, just saw the fog lights and thought it was one
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Ahhh the joys of illusion hahaha!!!!
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 14 September 2005 01:44
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someone find me a gt4 bar or cheap ssv one and ill have a front lip for sale
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 14 September 2005 10:01
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i might get a beams n/a for 4g's,
what gearbox mods do i need? or can it bolt straight up?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 14 September 2005 11:39
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Go for it man, be the first to actually do the beams conversion in the ST162!
As far as I know any 'S' series gearbox will bolt straight in. The bolt holes in the castings are the same, just bolt up the mount brackets from the original transmission. Im not so sure if the same applies to the auto tho.
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brisbane
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 14 September 2005 22:41
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the gearbox wont work at all  youll need to give it to me ill take it off ur hands or something haha jokes
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 14 September 2005 23:44
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| CLEEKA wrote on Wed, 14 September 2005 20:01 |
i might get a beams n/a for 4g's,
what gearbox mods do i need? or can it bolt straight up?
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are you going to leave your auto on the end of it?
is that price for the engine alone?
the auto gearbox will bolt straight on! but why would you?
if you can get ur hands on the beams manual transmission (LSD), you will be in possesion of the most sought after gearbox in this thread, everyone here including myself will be drooling with anticipation that u will sell it to them . (except for Rob).
keep us updated on what your thoughts are.
Karl
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 00:24
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not me i got 3 of them lol..... post whore...
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 02:39
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HEY GUYS!!!
who wants to lookinto doing a GROUP order from SSV!!!
im definetly up for some side skirts!!
gather interest and post up here!!!
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 03:15
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yer im down.. i want skirts and maybe front bar... ill defineatly have funds so count me in for that...
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brisbane
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 03:16
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i know the skrits go under the door protector things but i dont have them and i dont want them so i might have to glass mine to the car??? lol or something
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 07:48
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beams comes with 6 speed manual, but its rwd?
maybe price was bit lower, a guy i know who builds kit cars friend got it but can't use it because of certain rules etc
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 09:24
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so if i get the engine, it bolt directly up my my st162 auto?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 09:30
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do a search on it, there's two beams motors - the one with the 6sp manual is the RWD variant which wont work in FWD AFAIK. The lower crankcase is heaps bigger and i think the engine sits on a different angle.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 10:01
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ya, just get a red beams instead of black beams. Cheaper, 10hp less but fwd 5 speed and lsd. last I checked 4.5k for a front cut, should be a direct swap barring electronics
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 11:21
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Just be careful when shopping around - FWD gen 4 (beams) engines come with red (celica) and black (caldina) rocker covers. Engines are identical except for the configuration of the emissions gear. Both engines have single cam VVT, the RWD blacktop beams has dual VVT.
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Quakers Hill
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August 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 September 2005 11:51
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Hi Guys,
I'm after a Aircon Compressor for a 3SGE Gen 1. Anyone got a spare that they want to get sell??
PM me.
Michael.
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Sydney / NSW
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brisbane
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 07:05
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i have one also let me know if u cant find yours karl
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 11:21
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looking good adrian 
guess u never needed my sideskirts hehehe
hows the clearence of the front bar, i wanna redo mine so i have a lip just sacred itll crack open, cuz it scraps now even thou its missing a massive chunk
do the beams!!!!! i was about to but couldnt find one 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 12:43
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Going to be buying some wheels soon. So I went for a look around the local places and then decided that tempe tyres have the cheapest packages I could find (online or asking in person).
But I was disappointed by the complete lack of range in 16" wheels that everyone has. Is there something wrong with having 16" wheels?(rhetorical) Tempe have a huge range, but I'm fussy. So fussy that I don't like chrome  . Which narrows my options on their site down to a whole of 3 wheels.
Regardless of this, I found one that would look ok I think and suits my taste. They are called lite 5's (by starcorp racing or someone) weigh 6kg each and come in the exact size that I was looking for 16x7. I did a cheap photoshop and put them on a red celica (trd's, only picture I could find mind you I didn't look very hard) will post up and get thoughts.
Obviously they won't look that big and it's a cheap photoshop but it was just to get an idea
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QLD, Gold Coast
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February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 12:51
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looks good, gotta love the 5 spokes, can't go wrong with the 5 spoke 
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 14:12
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5 spoke = r0xx0r
hey did you try Australia's Best? tyres.com I think..
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September 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 16:59
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Hello fellow celica owners  I just found this website, i came from 4gcelica.net & I live in australia. Nice to see there are other 4th gen enthusiasts
Here are some pictures of my car, Blue Lightning
My most favourite picture
Hope to chat to you all real soon
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 September 2005 21:48
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looks alright mate welcome to toymods.
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QLD, Gold Coast
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 00:51
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that looks sweet, got the kit and all, might need a lil lowering job to cover those gaps (4wd factor)  , but did you keep the original T-Vis with that Gen2 3sge?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 04:24
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys
Lol i was actually planning on raising the suspension at one stage as the car was a bit too low for me But i decided that the only suspension work on this car would only be stiffer springs, I really like the height, it's pretty practable, after driving it for the last few months. I can't deal with low cars, need to drive up drive ways without damaging anything
And to answer your question, ST162GT-R, we decided to leave the normal t-vis, the mr2 one is still around somewhere in my dads workshop & so is the mr2 gearbox with lsd lol I dunno whether changing the t-vis to the thingy that came with the mr2 would be worth it, but i would love to play with the lsd one day
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 04:32
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Sweet car mate, obviously well loved! Did you do the full gen 2 conversion using the gen 2 ECU, or are you running the gen2 block with the gen 1 setup?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 04:39
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Hello Mr Smashed Wombat, nice to meet you I don't think we put in the gen 2 ecu. I'm curious, how much of a difference does it make? And also what does a "block" mean? I'm thinking that block means the engine block? lol I'm noob, hence silly question If what i think is right, then i believe we used gen 1 setup as it involves the least amount of work (lol my dad is mechanic and runs own business- so he's very busy), as I needed to drive the car to get my P's at the time. It took only a few hours to get it up and running, so I guess I can't complain ^-^
Yup, i treasure my car as it takes me places. The engine is 1996 and has only 45,000km's
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 05:06
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i would assume you would be using the Gen 1 ecu if your running the T-Vis cause the Gen2's never had T-ViS, yeah you need to get that LSD in play, thats the envy of most st162 owners.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 05:11
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What is the one for the gen 2 motor? It doesn't have any words on it. I'm very much a noob
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 06:51
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Thanks Rob, found a few more that could be a possibility including some oz racing rims, not the ones I was really looking for (the white 5 spoke rally ones but the superturismo) Making enquires. Damn you sydneyites and having numerous good wheel stores. 
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 06:54
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wanna sell ur mr2 lsd box if so shotgun
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:08
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haha vulture! *spam*
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:34
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yer gotta ask ..... then i have soemthing to replace the box im running so i can drive the car that little bit harder
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newcastle nsw
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March 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:38
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ok now ive almost finished rebuilding the bottom and and i was going to give the block a new coat of paint since its out but i was thinking of painting it red and also the rocker covers aswell what do you guys think? i tried photo croppping it but im shit at it so it kinda looked crap
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QLD, Gold Coast
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February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:54
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| berad wrote on Sun, 18 September 2005 17:34 |
yer gotta ask ..... then i have soemthing to replace the box im running so i can drive the car that little bit harder
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Berad are you using the standard st162 box with the open diff still???
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 08:49
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camry box same sought of shit but yer open diff... tyre loves it it decides to run lsd every now and then u think thats a good thing lol
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brisbane
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 08:51
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nah leave the block black dirty ... i painted my cam cover im stripping the paint off though and gunna polish it
im a big fan of chrome in the engine bay now lol
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 September 2005 12:38
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HEy brad, just curious as to what you're gonna do with the exterior of the car?Are you going to match up to that shiny engine bay of yours?
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Outer Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 00:04
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Check the for sale threads, my recently rear ended st162 is for sale. Lots of good parts, engine is in good nick.
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 00:39
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I noticed some people were interested in the SSV bodykit, I MIGHT have a Rear bar available (my one) but yeah I will sell based on interest.
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Gold Coast, QLD
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April 2004
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Sydney / NSW
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:54
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nice midnightblue and welcome, i have to agree with the lowering of the car though. matt86sx, thats the SSV kit dude, it even has the SSV rear spoiler.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 07:02
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Whoops heh heh, you're absolutely right Karl, my bad 
I didn't recognise it at first, the spotlights threw me off. And I haven't seen that rear spoiler fitted to a car before, until I had a look at the SSV website, that is.......
Well, there's proof positive that I am no ST162 guru!
*ducks back into hibernation*
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 07:41
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yer its gettin painted before it comes back
go on ozcelica check out the for sale thing theres a d00d on there whos brother has a mould for the ssv kit for the 162 its all cheaper maybe if we can get a combination of 3 or 4 kits we can get it even cheaper im not interestd in the rear bar or the wing so yer
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 September 2005 08:37
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Hey guys =]
berad, i want my mr2 lsd box lol but i believe there are places that may have some though, they are wreckers or something and some of them have half cuts, i got my whole block with tranny for $au350 cuz my dad knew the guy =] There this one place called japanese wreckers or something like that, it should have what you're looking for, hope it helps
does having lsd really make much of a difference? like i mean, i heard heaps about the integra type r lsd, but i haven't heard much about mr2's lsd :S
Heya matt86sx & warrior, thanks for the compliment & warm welcome yup the whole thing is the ssv kit, they give you a package discount if you buy it all =]
lol warrior, if i do lower car, practability will be lowered too, i luv to drive something that is easy to get into drive ways and out of them & also a breeze to park without having to worry about crashing the lower front, so it'll have to stay 4wd style for me lol I do agree it will look better but i prefer less headaches and heartaches from crashing my car
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brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 September 2005 05:06
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alot more traction taking off and around corners although with std suspension cornering fast could be an issue
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 September 2005 07:14
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Well I had a fun day today, at least some of it. I got my new front valance (front lip in toyota technical terms )
And I got a reply to my email from tempe tyres. Now I asked 5 or so questions and got an answer to none. But I did get an answer to something that I didn't even want to know .
So I guess online shopping for wheels just doesn't work when they don't read the entire email. Off to find some good wheel/tyre places around me I go .
And a general question who prefers 16's and who prefers 17's?
Also to get more traction around corners you can remove roll berad Get some chunky swaybars as well as an mr2 box
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 September 2005 08:18
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My tax money has come through and i now have the dosh to start the great gen2 NA build up. Still trying to decide on what size cams i should get - im after something that will pack a punch (more midrange and top end) but i dont want my low end torque and daily driving style to suffer too much.
Anyone have any ideas on what sorta size?POssibly something around 264, maybe even 272?i dunno, would that be very very crap to drive on the street?
Other mods will be ported,port matched, stronger springs, shimless conversion, metal HG(just for safety) extractors, hiflow exhuast. Oh, and microtech
Cheers
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Sydney Australia
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June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 September 2005 04:33
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stuC
im assuming ur gonna run aftermarket ecu with that (otherwise you're up shit creek from now)
so i will point out the following:
1. I have driven carbied cars with massive cams almost 300 degree and over 500 thou lift - these were carbied and were a mofo to drive in traffic and in streets where speed humps exist (aaarrrgh - u will pull ur hair out)- but this is carby youre talking bout and jet correction and venturi sizes play a massive role here
2. With an aftermarket computer setup correctly with good a/f and timing, the right balance of compression and cam duration, youre driveability will not alter too much. - remember larger cams are only there to increase ur volumetric efficiency and theres no point increasing your cam duration if your porting and compression are not adequate enough to support the extra duration so your volumetric efficiency increases
3. i personally will be running quite big cams but my compression will not be sky high cos of the cost of forgies at this point and the limit to shaving the head. So i will focus on head design more than anything and computer tuning.
thats my advice mate
cheers
Mick
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 September 2005 09:55
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get 359 degree cams If you wanted a guide for a decent cam I suppose you could check out the 2nd cam profile for either the beams or the 2zzge that they use for vvt, Similar rev range I think.
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January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:02
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sorry guys, i really cant be bothered finding it amoungst the 60 odd pages u guys have cranked up. so im jus gonna ask.
im looking at buying a 1987 ST Celica with a blown motor. as far as i know, its a 162, not 100%, can sum1 confirm this?
main question is, wat engine does it have. cause i havent seen that much into it yet, and im jus considering if its worth buying and replacing another stock motor into it.
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Coffs Harbour
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:13
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yes its an st162,
it has a 3sfe motor in it,
no its not worth replacing with this motor again
if i was u i would replace it with a 2nd gen 3sge motor or do a 3sgte conversion
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:20
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| Smokey228 wrote on Fri, 23 September 2005 11:02 |
sorry guys, i really cant be bothered finding it amoungst the 60 odd pages u guys have cranked up. so im jus gonna ask.
im looking at buying a 1987 ST Celica with a blown motor. as far as i know, its a 162, not 100%, can sum1 confirm this?
main question is, wat engine does it have. cause i havent seen that much into it yet, and im jus considering if its worth buying and replacing another stock motor into it.
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the ST has a 3SFE camry gutless engine. the ST has the perfect setup to do a 3sgte. it already has the fan mounted on the outside of the radiator support and the gearbox starter motor is in the correct position to do so.
good luck 
Karl
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Sydney
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January 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:33
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how tricky is this?
does the 3sge box bolts up?
im best off getting a half cut then arent i? cause ill need alot of the little things that wont hook up from the 3sfe?
thanks
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Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 23 September 2005 01:42
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| Smokey228 wrote on Fri, 23 September 2005 11:33 |
how tricky is this?
does the 3sge box bolts up?
im best off getting a half cut then arent i? cause ill need alot of the little things that wont hook up from the 3sfe?
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its not that hard to do if you are good with your hands.
the 3SFE gearbox will work fine. everything will depend on your budget. this topic has been covered several times in different threads, and your best off doing a search and enjoy a little reading.
Karl
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