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Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 09:17
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I'm in a dilemma.
I love my little car, but I know that all it is going to do is continue costing me money.
My celica has 180,000 km and I have been offered a green UZZ31, with TEMS etc (thankfully, no aftermarket adjuster)which is very clean, 140,000 km for a $2000 cash adjustment (by me  .
So what do you guys think? I do love soarers, the only thing holding me back is that I love my Celica.
Is there anything I should know about Soarers?
Cheers in advance guys.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 09:20
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Who's to say the Soarer isn't going to cost you lots of money too? What's wrong with the ST185?
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Brisbane
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April 2005
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 09:32
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 14 September 2005 19:20 |
Who's to say the Soarer isn't going to cost you lots of money too? What's wrong with the ST185?
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Nothing in particular, but i know the engines aren't as solid whereas they are bulletproof in the soarer, maintenancfe and servicing costs a bomb for the gt4 due to the configuration of the engine bay, but the soarer is much more straight forward.
I like both cars. I'm just not sure. 
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Vic
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April 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 09:54
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I have both a GT4 and a SC400 and if i was you i would buy the UZZ31, not because there is anything wrong with the GT4 but its nice to experience different cars. You can always go back to a 4WD turbo car later if you want.
Do you like to drive properly, or cruise round in luxury at a relatively quick pace? In a straight line there is nothing in it, but the 185 has it all over the Soarer when it comes to handling potential. The 3S is gonna keep costing you money simply because its that type of car, youre meant to modify them
. The Soarer is the exact opposite. The main things to watch for are the power steering and the alternator, which sometimes gets leaked on by the overflow tank of the radiator or some such. Electronics can be niggly but its no worse than other car. In 18 months of ownership my scheduled services have generally only a couple of hundred dollars. I had to do the power steering but thats it. Very reliable.
PS: i bought my Soarer with 150,000km, which by 1UZFE standards isn't even 50% of its (original) life span. They're meant to be able to crank out circa 400,000km if they've been looked after.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 09:59
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Thanks mate, I'll definitely take those words into account. I think later down the track I probably will purchase another GT4, but an ST205, in a few years. This is all assuming I decide to go ahead with the sale. It's safe to say that I've already made massive losses off the GT4. The SOarer would probably be the same, but not nearly as bad.
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Vic
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April 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 10:17
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I agree on both counts. 205s are getting reasonably cheap nowadays (compared to their $80,000 factory sticker!) and the Soarer would let you save some cash as well as some stress. DOn't get me wrong though, i'm never gonna sell my 165.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 10:21
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Used to own a 162, first car. loved it to death. I sold it to a friend who brought it over the other night. Brings a tear to the eye to see it on my lawn again.
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wollongong
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October 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 11:14
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i had a very similar thought today myself, quite different cars but still, a guy in a cressida came into work today, completely stock, perfect panels and paint, everything looked after superbly, guy was askin $5900. figure i coulda sold the rolla for $10k. woulda bn a handy 4K start on the cressida, ahhh the possibilities. shoulda got his number. ive seen it ther a few times now, so should be back....
crazy thought?
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Location:
Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 12:55
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i wouldnt risk swapping a gtfour. a corolla yes, but a gtfour no.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 22:50
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Hmmmm, still thinking.
What kind of fuel do the V8s use? My GT4 only gets 400km to the tank.
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Vic
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April 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 23:11
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Costs a bit more to fill up (sat nite was $100 dollars! but usually circa $70) but considering its literally two engines the 185 has, the fuel efficiency is ok. i think i usually get about 500 from a tank. Freeway driving is good though, i averaged 9 litres/100km on a 1.25hr hour drive. It has enough grunt as well to drive it sedately but still at a reasonable pace.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Wed, 14 September 2005 23:19
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Yeah, of theb V8s i've driven, its probably only a little faster than our 3.5L magna (which is pretty effing quick) but it does everything with such refinement that it's unbelievable.
I'm definitely torn between the two cars right now.
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 01:00
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Id stay the ST185.
Not sure about where u r, but there r a shitload more Z30/31 soarers than GT4's where I am. Especially if you are the one who has to pay the 2G cash adjustment.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 01:32
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That's definitely one advantage. I think some time down the track I'd like to purchase a 205.
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 03:32
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Depends what you're lookin for. If u r looking for a reliable cruiser go the soarer, if you're looking for a more sporty ride that u can throw around and have fun with go the gt4. Also i thought the UZZ31 were goin for around the same price as gt4's so unless this one is really nice having to pay 2g on top is a bit steep in my opinion  gl with your choice mate.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 04:17
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Yeah I like the cruiser aspect and am a much more sedate driver these days, it's just the sentimental thing really. I've wanted one of these forever, now I've got one. Knowing me, my past decisions and my luck, as soon as I unload the GT4, it will become incredibly rare, valuable and sought after. I don't think a Soarer is any of those things.
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new castle
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July 2005
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 07:03
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what size engines do the soarers come in...i know theres a 2.5lt twin turbo version... i didnt know they went up to V8's though??
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Thu, 15 September 2005 10:52
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4L, 198 kW V8s came standard aswell. Although the 1J outperforms them in every way, the power is sitting there right from the start, instead of after 3000 rpm.
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sat, 17 September 2005 09:42
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Ok, the offer is on the table anjd I'm willing to take it.
Soarer guys, is there anything I should be checking (apart from interior quality) before committing?
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sun, 18 September 2005 02:12
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Don't get a soarer, there slow  my mr2 kills them
edit: well my mates one that I raced, ccg guys should know it, chucks sons old one
seriosly though
my mate just bought a v8 soarer, when driving sedatly he gets about 12L/100km, but usually averages about 14/15L/100km
the 1J doesn't out perfomr the V8, the V8 has more power and is more usable everywhere, also insurance, insurance for a 1J will kill you, but a 1U is affordable
[Updated on: Sun, 18 September 2005 02:17]
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sun, 18 September 2005 05:10
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Not worried about your MR2 mate!!
I kinda got over the whole "let's get everywhere as fast as we can" thing about a year ago, which is why I'm in teh market for a V8 soarer right now, I need a luxury cruiser. I do realise that they're not the fastest thing on the planet, but that doesn't bother me.
Also, insurance is waaaay cheaper for a V8 soarer than my GT4
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:34
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Keep the bloody ST185.
Or if u must go for a UZ Soarer, dont be paying 2G extra!!!!
And a GT4 is alot easier to park hehe....
Just dont drive it hard.... and lower the boost maybe...
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sun, 18 September 2005 07:47
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The Deal is not for 2k.
The ball is in the Soarer guy's court now, he doesn't like the offer I gave him, but then he's pretty desperate to sell. I don't mind what happens either way.
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Perth, WA
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December 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Sun, 18 September 2005 15:49
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Change of cars is always a new experience, there will always be things that you hate/miss and there will always be things that you will like, plus all the new experiences that come with it..
just remember, if you sell your GT4, its not like it'll be the last one on the planet, its not that much of an issue to go back
your fuel economy should be around the same though shouldnt it? plus RWD is a hellava lot of fun too 
Eldar.O.
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Vic
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April 2004
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 02:48
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For a 1.6-1.8 tonne car the UZ331/UZ332 is NOT slow. Perhaps not as quick through corners as an MR2/GT4 but straight line 7 secs 0-100km aint bad. And if you get bored just SC the thing for CL55 AMG style power!
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Location:
Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 05:26
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Just had My last drive of the GT4. EldarO, very true words there, I think I just need to sever the emotional attachment I have with the car, as it simply doesn't suit my needs anymore, maybe I'll get another turbo when I'm 25 and a half. Rang Shannons and I'm getting $400 back from my premium for going with the soarer.
Unfortunately for my 185, the soarer is a far more economical option, in every regard.
Bye Bye, GT4.
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 09:05
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and after all the problems you have had with the gt4 
technically you didn't own it for too long.
Ohh well enjoy the soarer man, I advise to get a nice exhaust on it, my mate knows the guy who did it, some place at qbn, they sound sooo phat with this exhaust system, and EVERYBODY looks  but they aren't illegally loud, and when cruising they are really quiet, they get nice when you boot it, if your interested I can give you the guys details
enjoy
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Canberra
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October 2002
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Re: Should I swap my ST185 for a UZZ31 Soarer?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 21:54
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Exahust is on the list,
But i'm happy to just drive it around for the moment.n It's a nice change not to have to shift at just the right moment to get boost, or not to have to shift at all!
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