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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Sun, 18 September 2005 13:57
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Jet black 1989 MA70 Targa top, 7m turbo, 5 speed, digital dash, gray leather interior. These models were called "Group A" i believe. For sale in Adelaide.
Edit: It's probably a GT Limited Aero top - read below.
Pic at: http://www.webtechnix.com.au/drew/DSC03648.JPG
Including:
Near new Pioneer DEH-1650 detachable face cd/tuner
4 inch exhaust
17" deep dish alloys
Larger aftermarket turbo and intercooler
Front and rear sway bar
Aftermarket coil over suspension
HKS PFC F-CON aftermarket computer
Electronic turbo timer
Fully Australian complianced under the 15 year rule with Vic rego till november.
136xxx k's on the clock.
I bought this car in feburary and am now selling because i've uncovered a host of problems which i don't have the time/money/patience to fix. Basiclly it started overheating a bit, so suspecting a blown headgasket i took it in to fours n more in Adelaide to get a full report on it.
They couldn't find conclusive evidence of head gasket failure but it is running rough, losing coolent and has brown sludgy crap in the coolent, so it's a "probably".
Other problems include leaky / possibly dodgy power steering pump - the power steering is hard at low rev's, rear cradle cracked near diff mount, front cross member bent, Right hand engine mount sagged, front lower control arm bushes cracking, driveshaft centre bearing moves excessivly, replacement front brake hoses are incorrect type and incorrectly mounted, rear sway bar "D" bushes are worn.
I was quoted between $3000 - $3850 for these repairs, the varible being the availability of secondhand replacement parts for the repairs. I'm sure this could be done a lot cheaper if you were willing to source the parts and capable of doing some of the work yourself.
I paid $13000 for this car and have spent several hundred on a new radio, new battery, and lots of little bits and peices for the interior that were either missing or in poor condition as well as $200 to get it fully checked over.
I'm looking for about $10000 ono for it - this is still pretty good value for a fairly rare car with a heap of mod's. From what i've seen around at the moment you would be paying at least $12000 for one of these straight off the boat uncomplianced and a lot more stock (with potentially as many problems as mine has got).
PM if would like my mobile number for a chat or to arrange to check it out.
Drew.
[Updated on: Thu, 22 September 2005 07:22]
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Tue, 20 September 2005 11:55
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Bump!
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Wed, 21 September 2005 00:42
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damn drew, that sucks. i didn't know it was a turbo-a, they've got a shit hot cam profile and bigger turbo yeah?
anyway, good luck with the sale mate, shame you can't fix it up
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Wed, 21 September 2005 07:11
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I remember when you got the car, I am sorry it didn't work out as you had hoped
Good luck with the sale.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Wed, 21 September 2005 14:49
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Hey man,
Don't mean to harm the sale or anything like that I just wanted to ask a few questions. I thought Turbo-As only came out as hardtops and not targas. And is that avatar of your dash? Cos Turbo As only came out with analog dashes. And finally, the mouldings on your car, are they original - cos I believe Turbo As had colour coded mouldings.
I only say this cos I was looking at your price and 10gs for a Turbo A, with problems or not, is a decent price and just wanted to check.
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Location: Perth, WA
Registered: March 2004
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Wed, 21 September 2005 15:03
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says digi dash in his 1st post
it's got the turbo a vent thing in the front bar, but it might be fake, just read off the vin plate i think and you will find out
those symptoms you describe sound alot like what i had in my 1g
my car to my speculations sat around for a while in japan before i got it, this with different weather conditions, more driving, and prolly from factory cooling system lead my car to overheat
i got my whole system flushed, replaced thermostat, changed the clamps, and some hoses and now she runs fine
cracked hoses are a common problem in 7m's, 1g's, 1j's so my suggestion would be to inspect every cooling hose you have
you can replace all the hoses for around $100 and cutting/fitting isnt hard
other than that it could possibly be something worse
however........good luck with the sale
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Location: Canning Vale WA
Registered: November 2004
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Location: Canning Vale WA
Registered: November 2004
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 03:27
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if its running AFM then its not a turbo-a motor, unless they went to AFM which is f***kn stupid, post an engine pic anyway, would be nice to see..
good luck dude.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 05:01
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mk27m wrote on Thu, 22 September 2005 12:21 | I'm not 100% sure what it is - the guy i bought it off thought it was a turbo r with a turbo a front bar but turbo r's only came out with 1j's in them apparently and this has a 7m in it with a 7m listed on the compliance plate.
The model number on the compliance plate is E-MA70-BUPZZ.
I don't believe the mouldings on the car are original - there's another guy in adelaide with an identical car - dan, HKSTRD on toymods, on his car the mouldings, front side indicators, rear side reflectors and the way "toyota supra" is written is different. He seemed to think mine were USDM mouldings - something that was supposedly popular to swap over in japan.
It does have a digital dash, but the one shown in my avatar was a photo of my old ma61.
As for the cooling problems - i dunno i took it in to get checked out and they couldn't say for sure but all the pointers seemd to suggest bhg.
Drew.
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Dan (HKS TRD + Top bloke) is 100% right about the mouldings, they are USDM ones... u can tell because of the rear side reflectors which are law over there.
Also 110% sure it is not a Turbo R... prev owner didn't know a thing... remember when he was selling it.
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Location: Perth, WA
Registered: March 2004
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 05:27
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it's interesting cos that model number doesnt show up on
http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/ this website
so it could be a turbo A, but i dont think so, although it is a nice ma70
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Registered: November 2003
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:12
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mk27m wrote on Thu, 22 September 2005 15:32 | Mine does have a "limited" badge on the back - it could be that mine's just another version of the 3.0l gt limited turbo aero top with a different front bar.
I've attached a pic - you can see where someone had attached an "R" badge to try and make it look like a turbo r.
Driftspec: I think the previous owner was trying to pull a fast one - i tried searching for the original for sale thread but i reckon he's got it deleted.
Drew.
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Hey Drew, yeah yours would be a limited, the badge is not normally there thought it is usually next to the writing on the mouldings (3.0L writing).
Here is the original sales thread
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=58298&rid=4067&S=194d66fcbdb7d13f02e535b 1014cd9bf&pl_view=&start=0#msg_544858
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Location: Canning Vale WA
Registered: November 2004
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:14
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it aint an R, coz they were called "twinturbo R" for a reason, they had a 1J. Limited is jsut another version of it, the only thing that still confuses me is the frontbar, it looks like the previous owner just chenged it over..
wow, actually i just saw your engine pics... wierd shit, it has an AFM and no map sensor, but it has the Turbo-A "3000 pipe" substitute, and leather interior..
however it has digi dash, that aint turbo-a..
man the car is a mix and match of random shit,
but still a nice 70, Driftspec is right, even if it was a turbo-a with the mods its got it dont matter anyway, good luck with the sale.
[Updated on: Thu, 22 September 2005 06:29]
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:33
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Stomps wrote on Thu, 22 September 2005 15:44 | it aint an R, coz they were called "twinturbo R" for a reason, they had a 1J. Limited is jsut another version of it, the only thing that still confuses me is the frontbar, it looks like the previous owner just chenged it over..
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Ok lets clear this again
Turbo-A (limited 500 made .. bigger turbo, cams, MAP sensor etc)
Turbo-R (Released nearing end of JZA70 production.. Recaro interior, "R" badge, bilstein Suspension, Analog Dash, No Cruise.... not-a-limited-run).
These facts are undisupted
Well the mouldings on the car are USDM, I would say that when they were changed in Japan Mr Owner would have put the Turbo-A duct one and then put the Turbo R badge on so he could pull all the J-Girls... as you do.
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Location: Northwestern Sydney
Registered: August 2002
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:33
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To help solve the issues in this thread.
Drew: are you sure you read the plate I.D correctly
E-MA70-BUPZZ is very similar to E-MA70-BJPZZ
The latter is a MA70 GT limited Aerotop
And it looks like someone in the past has fitted a Turbo A front bar to it.
What is the condition of the interior???
Good price however *looks at MA70 crossmember and 7MGTE in corner*
*Has a look at bank balance*
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:40
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I think we are guilty of taking over this thread
That said hopefully Drew will now keep his car will stay a MKIII owner
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 06:54
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You were right lambolica on closer inspection it is bjpzz, sorry bout that guys
Thanks for finding that original sale thread driftspec.
Just to prevent any confusion too that photo of the interior shows the steering wheel with cruise control functions but it dosen't have cruise - i bought this steering wheel of someone wrecking a car on toymods 'cause the original wheel was a crap aftermarket thing with no horn.
the interior's pretty good, it's got the original factory carpets which are pretty grubby, i replaced the centre console lid, hand brake cover, gearstick cover and the steering wheel(as mentioned) when i got it as they were all pretty dodgy - now they're as near new as you'd get in a 16 year old car. I also got an original rear molded carpet for the rear cargo/spare wheel area because there was only a dodgy aftermarket piece in there that didn't allow the rear seats to fold down properly. One of the inserts above the armrests next to the rear seats was missing when i got it. I tried to get a replacement but noone had the same leather ones, only fabric, so i got a pair of fabric replacements and was going to get them retrimed. You can probably see what i mean from these pics.
I'd like to keep it - but i just can't afford it at the moment and i'm driving a $350 shitbox crown around which sux arse.
Drew.
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[Updated on: Thu, 22 September 2005 07:19]
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2005
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 10:30
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Definately Turbo A, unless someone has put a Turbo A front air duct on it. (Which is reasonably common in Japan)
Turbo A's were the only version with this air duct from the factory.
Most MK3s dont have that vent behind the license plate, which by the way is in a stupid place. Get a slimline plate.
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Thu, 22 September 2005 12:40
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Sir_2JZA70 wrote on Thu, 22 September 2005 20:00 | Definately Turbo A, unless someone has put a Turbo A front air duct on it. (Which is reasonably common in Japan)
Turbo A's were the only version with this air duct from the factory.
Most MK3s dont have that vent behind the license plate, which by the way is in a stupid place. Get a slimline plate.
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Dude its a targa top and has a digital dash... sooooo not a Turbo-A .
The duct can be brought from Toyota (new), or even a fibreglass copy can be brought... HKS TRD has an airduct too and his car is not a Turbo-A.. its put on aftermarket.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 1989 MA70 5spd Targa Turbo
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Fri, 23 September 2005 08:03
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i know were there is a turbo A in adelaide
nice car mk27m pitty about the h/g. if i wasnt doing the swap im doing now i would pick this up right away, got to love the taga top
good luck with the sale
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