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chrisss
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how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 09:49 Go to next message
yeah I know..... Rolling Eyes

but -

its a VH commodore with a carby V8, how to tell if its a 253 or a 308????
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well on the drivers side down the bottom it should have '253' or '308' on it, if its a vh, i think they only came with the 253
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had the same problem some years back with a V8 LH hatchback then an LX V8, its damn hard to see you need a mirror and a light and you get down low on the side of the block (in the grease and goo) looking for letters about 20-30mm high cast into the block about the sump - and of course I couldn't find either.

Had to presume both were 253, pity, a 308 isd worth plenty more, especially in a Torana !

Must be an easiet way.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah well im not at all holden cluey....I despise the new ones....but id love a LX SS hatch 5.0lt....

imagine the power to weight ratio and they look like a total "dont f..k with me" street machine....must be worth a bit but!!
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well, if the motor is original, you can tell simply by the carb - far as I know, all 253's had that rotten, rotten 2 barrel strommy, and 308s had the quadrajet. You can also tell by the sound of the engine, if you hang around Holden folk much - they do tend to sound notably different.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah thats right, pain in the arse. Maybe look at the compliance plate, look at the engine number and try and match the start of it with 253 or 308 or something like that, that would bew the easiest way, if u knew wat u were looking for
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Thu, 22 September 2005 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When you drive it, is it gutless, or REALLY gutless Laughing ?
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Fri, 23 September 2005 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i agree with MRSHIN the 253 engines were gutless, one of my mates has a one tonner with a 253 in it and my EA falcon kicks it arse Very Happy
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Fri, 23 September 2005 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maybe u should post it up on the link i gave you last nite. Rolling Eyes
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sat, 24 September 2005 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1. drive them off a cliff
2. watch them sink to the bottom of the ocean
3. ??????
4. GETATOYOTA

joking! I agree with mrshin. if u don't wanna deal with the factory installed goo/oil/crap on the side of the engine, check the carbs. You don't even need to pull the air filter off.

As for REALLY gutless, my Dad's HZ with built 253 shat on his HQ 308...
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sat, 24 September 2005 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
An easy check is to look at the I.D. plate on the firewall. HQ series 308's had an engine prefix L31. 253's prefix was L32. Then the later 308's in the torana and HJ-HZ was L34. Of course this information is useless if the engine has been swapped. In any case remove a spark plug and manually crank the motor measuring the stroke from top dead centre to bottom dead centre . 308's had longer of the two.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sat, 24 September 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corona_82 wrote on Thu, 22 September 2005 19:53

well on the drivers side down the bottom it should have '253' or '308' on it, if its a vh, i think they only came with the 253



VH came with 253 and 308, I had one :/, spent money on it, it got stolen, I think it was for the best.

The VH will probably have 4.2 or 5.0 stamped on it? I never looked at mine, but I know the VC I had, it had 3.3 stamped on it, while my mates HQ had 202.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sun, 25 September 2005 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
might say something on your rego papers about it. or its on the left hand side of engine. easy to see if you jack it up.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sun, 25 September 2005 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is it only stamped on the one side ?

either do as everybody says have a look at the side of the block.
u could stick your hand up there and feel the numbers i recon.
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Re: how tell if its a 4.2 or 5.0 V8 [holden] Sun, 25 September 2005 09:21 Go to previous message
You can pretty much tell the difference in the sound of the motors, not at idle so much, but when you give it abit..

*puts flame suit on*

seriously though. you can hear the difference, the 253 tends to have less of a rumble, its not as deep sounding. sounds more like a big 6cyl with an exhaust/extractors.



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