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fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 09:14
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I was doing sum reading in high performance import or one of those mags and they said that na cams are more aggressive than turbo cams.
So i was wondering if any one has done this or even thought of doin this?
i hav a gen 1 3sgte and a gen 3 3sge.
Would it b possible and or beneficial?
thanks
ty
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London - for a while anyw...
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August 2003
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 12:03
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Don't quote me on this one, but I'm sure that the gen 3 cams won't fit the gen 1. If my memory serves, swapping the gte cams out for the n/a cams was a suggested upgrade, as opposed to getting new cams, for the gen 1 because of it's lack of compatability with other generations.
I believe your gen 3 cams would fit in a gen 2 engine, but since you don't have a gen 2 3sgte...
I'm pretty sure you could pick up some gen 1 n/a cams for cheap if you wanted to give it a go. I'll probably do it for the ST165 later.
Chris.
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Newcastle, NSW
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May 2004
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 12:45
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is this for real..swapping out the turbo cams for the n/a cams in the first gen is an upgrade?....are we talking seat of the pants type extra power....or 1.5 hp on the dyno sorta power?...just asking as ive got cam shaft seals that will need replacing in the nearish future...if i gotta go that far i might aswell upgrade the cams if its not gonna cost me much to get em
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London - for a while anyw...
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August 2003
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 16:14
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I had a look for the article/post that I read it in, but there are so many related references that it was pointless  . The easiest way to answer your question would be to work it out. Get the specifications for the gte cams and compare them to the n/a cams. I'm pretty sure that the duration on the exhaust cam (n/a) is longer, but again don't quote me on that. 
Chris.
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Fraser Coast, QLD
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June 2005
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Fri, 30 September 2005 10:43
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i think the 3sgte cams were less agressive (an attempt to give it more torque).
I have a 3sge out of st162 ( is that gen 3?) and i got a halfcut from a st165( that a gen 1 3sgte hey?).
A loss of torque is possible, but a gain in power in the higher rpm hopefully!?
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nth ringwood, Victoria
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August 2002
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Fri, 30 September 2005 10:51
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gen 1 3sge is out of a st162 and 165. gen 3 came from a 94 onwards sw20 and st202 celica and the cams will not fit as gen 1 had very little base circle compared to the later models that did like 4mm
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Newcastle, NSW
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May 2004
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Re: fittin 3sge cams in a 3sgte?
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Fri, 30 September 2005 11:13
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| billmchenry wrote on Fri, 30 September 2005 20:43 |
A loss of torque is possible, but a gain in power in the higher rpm hopefully!?
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hopefully in the next couple of months ill have an answer for yall on this one  ....damn i hate being broke lol
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