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supra78u
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ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Fri, 30 September 2005 20:27 Go to next message
hy guys just woundering if the r154 will fit in a ma61 what mods i would have two do and if it would perform better than a w58 your help would b greatly taken Very Happy
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You can make it fit and they are much stronger.
The topic has been covered quite a few times so rather than everyone reposting, try using the search function Smile

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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
supra78u wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 06:27

and if it would perform better than a w58



The R154 is notorious for having a really crappy shift, whereas the w58 (in good nick) is silky smooth. What sort of engine are you running to need a r154?
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
supra78u wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 06:27

what mods i would have two do


I think the mods include some friendly meetings between a dirty great big mallet and your transmission tunnel...
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks yian i like that reply about bashing the tunnel Very Happy
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hi mate im putting in a 7mgte with flowd head 3angle valve job .shot peene rods arias pistons 20 thow over oringed block i was told my reconditioned w58 wont last .cheers
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maybe if you were stuffing in a 1JZ with a big-single turbo it might be a sensible thing to do (upgrade to r154) - but the W58 is a fairly sturdy gearbox and probably adequate for 7mgte
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some bashing of the tunnel is required to my knowledge, as is a new drive shaft yoke (I believe that the R154 is the same length as the W58 however the R154 input shaft is longer, and hence I suspect that the diver shaft will need to be shortened slightly?).

Apparently if you use an automatic gearbox crossmember it pretty well lines up...

R154's are know for having an issue with the 1st gear thrust washer which you may wish to investigate.

And personally I think driving style has a lot to do with weather a W58 would last or not Smile

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[Updated on: Sat, 01 October 2005 07:49]

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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
*nod* for example, josh's 200rwkw 7m didn't break the w58, and it did a lot of kms.
The diff toward the end was mightily cranky, but the gbox is still pretty good (considering it's 20 years old especially)
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what kind of clutch was josh running?

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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Evil_Foetus wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 18:40

what kind of clutch was josh running?

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One that was never abused.
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I forgot to mention he drives like a grandma
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
don't tell me that! Laughing
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sat, 01 October 2005 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
supra78u wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 06:27

hy guys just woundering if the r154 will fit in a ma61 what mods i would have two do and if it would perform better than a w58 your help would b greatly taken Very Happy

It can be done and has been done in USA.

Hope this helps for your opinion.
http://www.celicasupra.com/vbforums/showthread.php ?t=7733

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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sun, 02 October 2005 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ive got one in my ma61 Smile

"SEARCH" and you might actually find the thread on here with pics.
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Re: ma61 w58 swap 4 r154 Sun, 02 October 2005 14:49 Go to previous message
The W58 can take plenty of power, you just need to ease it on and off. Yes, I drive like I'm driving miss daisy, but I still plant it occasionally. After 5 years behind a fair chunk of power and lots of torque the gearbox is still fine... and the the previous owner was nowhere near as gentle as me.
I'm going to be putting close to 250 rwkw through a w58 soon, so I'll let you know how that goes. My bet is that it will be fine, as long as I don't go all Norby on it.
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