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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Mon, 03 October 2005 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Puffy wrote on Mon, 03 October 2005 16:33

GT4 CV's are interchangable with Landcruiser CV's.


Even the ones with ABS dude? What year cruisers was that?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
-=DV=- wrote on Fri, 30 September 2005 21:11

yeah im born and bred in newwy...moved up to the fraser coast in the last few months..but im commin back down to live in newwy in the next few weeks....u guys wanna organise a newwy gt4 cruise sometime or somethin?


Yeah i would be keen just gotta find the right time to do it cause im always pretty busy.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 02:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok guys regarding the h&r spacers if there are more than 3 buyers we can get the spacers for 250 each.. (the normal retail price is now 290.. price rise apparently) this includes gst but not delivery to our doors just to their office in sydney..

if we order them before thursday well get them next week otherwise its 5-6 weeks til next shipment

to put it bluntly im not sure its worth the hassle for a saving of 25/40$ (depending on the price at that point in time).. basically im not gonna come up with the cash in the next 2 days but for any of you guys that are ready to go email michelle and im sure you'll be able to work it out

TCCAMotorsport@aol.com is the email address they use

i think ill be more likely to buy myself a set in 5-6 weeks and also have the cash a bit more available?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The thing about spacers is that it isn't needed straight away. You can get them anytime.

And... if you havn't already noticed, its only the GT4 boys that notice the odd rear wheel distance. Everyelse just looks at the 'tucked in wheel look' which i like.

Although i think ill be forced to run spacers with my new wheels.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have a very important note for those looking at whiteline kits for the gt4's.

price stated on website for sports pack, which includes shocks and springs all around:
website: $1,579.00

now when u give those part numbers to bursons (includeing tax so cheaper if ur a trader):
$870 all up!!!!

i even called whiteline personally to see how much there rear swaybar was, and i was quoted $220.

gave the part number to bursons: $165.

all i can say is im appauled, and feel sorry for any1 who payed direct prices from whiteline!!!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
870 all up Shocked Shocked thats awesome! what kinda costs u reckon it would be for installation? Unfortunately my shocks r fucked Sad new springs at the front would be good also.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
220$ to fit all shocks and springs at the recomended whiteline dealers
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message

<<<EDIT>>>
sorry i was right the first time, springs are only 114 for a pair!

parts and prices i got:

Springs:
Rear - 114 for both rear
Front - 114 for both rear

Shocks:
Front pair: 310
Rear pair: 328

soo yeah , 870$ all up.

[Updated on: Wed, 05 October 2005 01:05]

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
awesome man.
i never knew bursons sell koni and all that.

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well bursons have no idea what it is, they still get it from whiteline, its just that they do it cheaper.

im at the point of deciding wether to just replace my left shocker and get all my bumpstops replaced along with bushes, or just say screw it and get the whole kit.

can some1 tell me what they think of there whiteline kits? is it a comfortable ride or really hard? much improvement over standard? i wana know all the pros and cons, dont be afraid to write me an essay!

much appreciated!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carsanactra wrote on Tue, 04 October 2005 23:02

well bursons have no idea what it is, they still get it from whiteline, its just that they do it cheaper.

im at the point of deciding wether to just replace my left shocker and get all my bumpstops replaced along with bushes, or just say screw it and get the whole kit.

can some1 tell me what they think of there whiteline kits? is it a comfortable ride or really hard? much improvement over standard? i wana know all the pros and cons, dont be afraid to write me an essay!

much appreciated!


I'm interested in this to as I am still tossing up about what to do with my suspension
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Tue, 04 October 2005 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Note: The whole kit does not include bumpstops!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so there is no bumpstops on the st165! thats harsh as! what happens when u bottom out!

do u guys get that massive thud as well?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
short verdict on the whiteline geear - excellent for street , springs MAY be a little soft for track , but its yet to be tested

and why would you buy just 1 shock ? buy the pair ya cheapskate ..

and toobs means the "works" kit DOESNT include bumpstops i believe.

Im pretty sure you still need em , but seperate
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep thats what I meant... the works kit doesn't include bumpstops or control arm bushes.
You may want to purchase urethane items and replace these while you're doing the suspension.

Also for suspension settings the following have worked great for me:
Front
Toe: Out 0.3mm per side
Camber: 1.2deg negative
Koni dampner: half a turn from max

Rear:
Toe: In 0.3mm per side
Camber: 2.0deg negative
Koni dampner: 1 full turn from max (approx middle of the range)

Next time I do an alignment I might increase the front toe a bit (maybe 0.5mm a side) as I still think theres more in it!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just something to be aware of....the whiteline spring rates are SOFTER than the stock GrpA springs. When i had my whiteline setup i sent their original springs back and had them custom wind me up a stiffer set.

All quality gear but just make sure it's actually what you want.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Then theres room for improvement in that respect for what i have , later on Smile
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
According to this page yes: http://www.alltrac.net/tuning/springfaq.html

According to Whiteline the spring rates of their works kit are 172lb/in front and 157lb/in rear... and their measurements of the OEM springs show 150lb/in front and 140lb/in rear.

Either one of the two have got it wrong or Whiteline increased the spring rates on later revisions of their kits.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
according to there website, none of the kits have bumpstops, they are an extra item only. how the fuck can they sell a shock without a bumpstop on it! does any1 not have the bumpstops on there kits?

and yes i will be getting the control arm front bush kit for the front. apparently there is a rear inner set of bushes for the fron to tho isnt there? does whiteline only give u one set of bushes?

i just want to replace all the bushes on the front, does any1 have a list of the extra bushes i would need besides the front control arm bush kit from whiteline?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 3rd option TOOBs is that the GrpA has a higher spring rate from factory than the OEM non GrpA spring they used....quite likely as that's a US based site isn't it and they didn't get the GrpA. Anyways, definitely the case for my car and it was running what appeared to be stock factory suspension.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Unfortunately I didn't ever get the original springs with mine but I can say the whiteline springs are definately harder than the king spring superlows that came on the car.

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carsanactra, can you please list the part numbers for these whiteline products that are available through bursons?
i want pretty much everything in the works kit plus the bump stops and the control arms bushes.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well i know my whiteline ones were alot stiffer than the stock ones taken from my car , but alas , they arent group A items ..

group A's definantly did get a sportier spring , but yeah , mine feels pretty solid on the road, and not overly bone jarring , how i like it - so they do the job , for now
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Drag time, and the results are in.

13.693@99.14MPH

Not bad, when i went expecting 14's. Im happy. And i backed it up with 2 other 13second passes.
http://lance.ugbox.net/GT4/Racing/Drags%205-12-05/Run%204-13.693@99.14MPH.JPG
More slip here
http://lance.ugbox.net/GT4/Racing/Drags%205-12-05/

http://lance.ugbox.net/GT4/Racing/Drags%205-12-05/Pic5.JPG
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats awsome lance, what are u running under the bonnet? how much power are u putting out?

can u list ur mods for us?

goodwork!!!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Details of mods here...

http://ugbox.net/~lance/Blog/?page_id=8
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so ur not even running a computer yet? do u have any idea how much power is at the wheels?

how much did ur rebuild cost ya?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carsanactra wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 00:21

so ur not even running a computer yet? do u have any idea how much power is at the wheels?

how much did ur rebuild cost ya?



Stock JDM Computer
Power, At best, maybe 130-140awkw
Rebuild was expensive, but at a guess. $5k doing most of the work myself.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice time richard

congratulations Smile

if you end up going Haltech give me a yell
I might be able to help you there Rolling Eyes

cheers Very Happy
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1gt48u wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 08:01

nice time richard

congratulations Smile

if you end up going Haltech give me a yell
I might be able to help you there Rolling Eyes

cheers Very Happy



U'll be the first person i call Troy.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Wed, 05 October 2005 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nice little time there Lance, well done! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1gt48u wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 08:01

nice time richard

congratulations Smile

if you end up going Haltech give me a yell
I might be able to help you there Rolling Eyes

cheers Very Happy


Is Haltech what the u guys at scotts dyno tune specialise in ?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bill

we are a haltech distributor

we play with all ecu's Very Happy

cheers Very Happy
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if any1 else in melbourne is looking to get in on some cheap whiteline parts, me and black gt4 are going over to bursons in the next couple of days, and because we are both getting the works kit (or close enough to) we are gona get a deal worked out for us where we dont pay full price.

conditions:
- gota be ready to buy NOW! we gona go either today or tomorrow
- were gona be down doncaster/blackburn way.

if ur interested PM me.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heres a Gt4 history video Very Happy ..26mb

http://www.celica.net/videos/Rally/gt4-rally-histo ry.mpg.mpeg
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool troy u might c me there for an ECU and tune....... in like 2 or 3 years when i have the money Razz
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
-==L=a=N=c=E==- wrote on Wed, 05 October 2005 22:22

Drag time, and the results are in.

13.693@99.14MPH


Thats a sweet pass. Good drivin mate, nice 60 footer. Put the car on any sort of diet or was that with its fat ass hauling behind Laughing
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Puffy wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 13:24

-==L=a=N=c=E==- wrote on Wed, 05 October 2005 22:22

Drag time, and the results are in.

13.693@99.14MPH


Thats a sweet pass. Good drivin mate, nice 60 footer. Put the car on any sort of diet or was that with its fat ass hauling behind Laughing




The only thing i did in terms of 'lightening' was take the tools out and the spare. The rest of the 'fat' was left on. (running 1/4 tank of fuel)

Next time i go out, ill take out the sub and the back seats, possibly the passenger seat as well, and go for another run. I reckon i could get a 13.5 out of the car yet before going hardcore with fueling and ECU.

Always the option for some giggle gas, but thats cheating.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No real need for an aftermarket ECU unless you add cams, injectors or just want to up the boost much more.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toobs wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 14:43

No real need for an aftermarket ECU unless you add cams, injectors or just want to up the boost much more.



It'll all happen eventually Smile
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
or control ur fueling and timing etc i spose
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carsanactra wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 15:39

or control ur fueling and timing etc i spose




Its running pig rich as it is. I suppose i could get another coupla kw leaning out the fuel and fiddling with the timing. But i won't bother doing that until i do all my fueling and ecu mods.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Considering the cost of proper tuning I would just wait until you actually need an ECU... otherwise you'll be wasting money on tuning just to need a retune later.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toobs wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 18:09

Considering the cost of proper tuning I would just wait until you actually need an ECU... otherwise you'll be wasting money on tuning just to need a retune later.



Hence why im going to try and do a few things at once.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carsanactra wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 11:21

if any1 else in melbourne is looking to get in on some cheap whiteline parts, me and black gt4 are going over to bursons in the next couple of days, and because we are both getting the works kit (or close enough to) we are gona get a deal worked out for us where we dont pay full price.

conditions:
- gota be ready to buy NOW! we gona go either today or tomorrow
- were gona be down doncaster/blackburn way.

if ur interested PM me.


mmm... May be interested. Depends on price, really want rear sway bar.

PM sent
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Thu, 06 October 2005 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
update:

we are going down monday arvo, and will sort outa rpice when we get there, but we have been assured that we wont have to pay anywhere close to full price if we buyinh 2 full kits, let alone whatever extras people want.

by the way i will have a perfectly good set of lovell springs that are like 8 months old, for a st165. if any1 wants them, give me a yell. they definetly get ur car nice and low, and they are on the car at the moment for viewing.

[Updated on: Fri, 07 October 2005 00:34]

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
D'OH why did it have to be in the same week as my insurance! I have been wanting to get a works kit for a while, but can't bloody well afford it at the moment.

Ahh well maybe the rest of us can organise another group buy in a month or 2!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll def. get a rear adjustable swaybar on Monday but might hold out for the TEINS/save more money. Let me know how you go.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm come to think of it....Any idea how much the adjustable sway bars would work out to? What is the regular price? If it's substantially cheaper, and I can afford it, I'll go for it.

EDIT: Checked on the whiteline website, the BTR29Z is listed at $213. If it works out to around $150 +/- $10, put me down for one.

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh crap i forgot i was booked in at toyospares on monday.
its ok i will drop the car off in the morning and try to arrange my transport for the arvo.
i'm definatly not missing out on monday.
for anyone wanting parts i'd suggest they meet up with us on monday and come with us to bursons. it will be hard to say how much for particular items otherwise.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What time are you going on manday, as i have to work. I was talking to my mechanic who goes through bursons, and he was saying he would look into prices for me for a group buy, so if anybody is interested later I will be able to get the parts. I will post back with prices later.

What are the part numbers? As I cant find them. Smile

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok guys, we are gona go to mitcham branch of bursons on monday arvo as said above. i spoke to a guy there called tim, and he said the store manager has said we will get a good discount for a group buy.

what time is best for everybody? i know that blackgt4 has to drop his car off at toyospares in the morning, so lets say around 1pm ish if thats ok with every1?

we cant give any set prices yet, but just come down and see what kinda group discount we get! even if u just want a sway bar or something, chances are ur gona get a percentage off it anyways, just come on down.

post back here if ur gona meet up with us, or cant make it at 1pm.

by the way go to the whiteline website, click on ur car, toyota, gt4, and a pdf comes up with all the part numbers. part numbers are the same as bursons for whiteline, and the same products of course.

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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and tooch, i called bursons and there price is 180$ includeing tax, and 165$ without. like i said i dont know how much they can take off for us, but id say ud be looking under 170$ easy.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool I will give the part numbers to my mechanic tomorrow, I will see what he can get parts for.
I am very interested in rear sway bar, but don't finish work till 4pm, if I'm lucky.
Well at least I have the mechanic option.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
we'll if u really wana come, does any1 have objections to makeing it later afternoon, like 4:30 or even pm? they close at 5:30 tho.

every1 post back ur availability for monday, see what is the best time for every1.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Fri, 07 October 2005 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Make sure that you get more than 5% off. As I was reading my royalauto mag and found that if you are an racv member you get 5 - 15% off at bursons.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Sat, 08 October 2005 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4.30 is fine with me mate.
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carsanactra
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Sat, 08 October 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no worries, the new time to meet is 4:30. unless sum1 else cant make it?
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Sat, 08 October 2005 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Removed all ABS components from my GT. This included all wiring, plugs, brackets, modules, ecu and sensors. Was suprised at how much it all wieghed.

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7319/abs5zv.th.jpg

Its 11.1kg not 111kg by the way.... the wire is covering up the decimal point Razz

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BlackGT4
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread Sat, 08 October 2005 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
was ABS optional/only on the GRP-A?
cause i dont think my car has ABS.
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