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AE101R to what...
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Fri, 16 September 2005 17:41
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Alright, I've got a 1996 toyota corolla sedan. I was wondering what engine i should put in it, preferably the newer the better. I've been looking at a couple of 4A-GE engines, as well as 2ZZ-GE, and a couple of others, what do you all suggest?
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sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Sat, 17 September 2005 01:06
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Rebuilt 4AGE or used 20valve.
Maybe even build your own 7AGE.
I believe it can be done : 7A block + 4AGE Head
2ZZ = very rare + Expensive.
4A = Bolt straight in
My $0.02 worth ! 
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Sat, 17 September 2005 02:29
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| FWDCelica wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 11:06 |
2ZZ = very rare + Expensive.
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sss automotive had a 2zz with matching 6 speed gearbox for 2500 last time i was there
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 07:55
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what about a 3S-GTE with 20 valve? if possible, or a 1G-GTE, would that fit?
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Location:
Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 08:34
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Your only bolt in options are:
7A-FE = a bit ordinary
4A-GE = 100kw
4A-GE 20valve ~120kw
4A-GZE ~ 125kw+
I guess 2ZZ-GE with matching gearbox would sort of fit, with a few modifications. 140kw
3S-GE or 3S-GTE can fit but its a massive project.
They are your only realistic options.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 09:08
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going to 4AG will LOSE you torque, why not turbo/SC the 7AFE? (with new rods/pistons of course).
2ZZ is still 1.8L, but more fun than 7AF.. but still, not much faster 
3SGTE is a step in the right direction.
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 11:48
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3S-GE or 3S-GTE can fit but its a massive project.
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I like the sound of that engine, but exactly how difficult would it be, like RWD to FWD mod or somethin, or a bit more difficult than that??
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Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 14:55
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Stewart, the guy has a 4A-FE now, not a 7A-FE, so I doubt the 4A-GE would have much less torque. Overall power is what matters to me anyway.
And the 2ZZ-GE is a much faster motor than the 7A-FE, not sure if you have driven them or not.
Yes you can fit a 3S-GTE, but its not what you would call a bolt in swap for a novice.
Maybe the owner could say exactly how fast he wants to go.
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 15:33
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I'm thinking i'll just go for a 4A-GE 20v and whack a turbo on it, ive heard good stories about em, and i can get one quite easily
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 17:42
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| Jonny2TG wrote on Sat, 24 September 2005 00:55 |
Stewart, the guy has a 4A-FE now, not a 7A-FE, so I doubt the 4A-GE would have much less torque. Overall power is what matters to me anyway.
And the 2ZZ-GE is a much faster motor than the 7A-FE, not sure if you have driven them or not.
Yes you can fit a 3S-GTE, but its not what you would call a bolt in swap for a novice.
Maybe the owner could say exactly how fast he wants to go.
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ewwww, 4AFE i thought they were 7A (or is that the 111's)
yah i have driven em, but they have to be "driven" and the oil pump stories worry me 
ahh turbo 20V, what all the bling kiddies go for these days
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Location:
nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Fri, 23 September 2005 23:47
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2zzge totally owns the 7afe, and the oil pump stories are just that, stories.
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SA
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August 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Sat, 24 September 2005 01:30
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Personally I wouldn't get a turbo 20v, if i got a 20v i would leave it N/A as they are mad engines.
3SGTE...maybe...not much would need to be changed would it because it's going from MR to FF, so its the same layout. (correct me if I'm wrong).
Personally I would go a 4AGZE, while they don't have heaps of power, they still beat stock skylines and WRX's when they're stock. Just add a pulley and run more boost
In your case, go a 4AGZE as they are a fwd engine and they came out of a 101 (levin).
Good luck though
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Tue, 04 October 2005 08:14
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ok, would there be any possible way, and i mean ANY way to whack in a 2JZ engine
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:06
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| darkness wrote on Tue, 04 October 2005 18:14 |
ok, would there be any possible way, and i mean ANY way to whack in a 2JZ engine
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Sure there would.. but it probably goes a little beyond the realms of a 'normal' conversion. To begin with, you'll either need to make the car a couple of feet wider, or make the engine point the other way. Then you'll need somewhere to put a gearbox... and perhaps some way of getting the drive from the gearbox to the wheels... Look through magazines for pics of old Camiras etc. that have been turned into full house drag cars (usually with a V8), and then you'll get an idea of what might be involved 
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Location:
nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Tue, 04 October 2005 20:36
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dont need to make it wider. they fit
just take a LOT of fabrication
and good luck making it legal over there.
been done twice over here
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Wed, 05 October 2005 02:10
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I guess 2ZZ-GE with matching gearbox would sort of fit, with a few modifications. 140kw
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Nil, just source the parts from a ZZ111 (Ae111 with the 1ZZFE), Europe or America will be the Easiest port of call...
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Wed, 05 October 2005 10:53
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ok, i got it, how about a 1JZ engine??
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Wed, 05 October 2005 10:59
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oh, and also whack on a Skyline GTS-T front wheel drive 6 speed gearbox on it...
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Location:
wollongong
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October 2004
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Wed, 05 October 2005 12:42
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dude, u on drugs or just having us all on here. inline 6 cylinder into a tiny corolla, NUP, forget about it, V6 maybe, prolly still too little room, fills out a camry engine bay quite well, its HUGE compared to tha rolla!
"front wheel drive 6 spd skyline box"...um dont they use a RWD box with a forward 'transfer case'?
go the mighty 4age 20v, go nuts with it N/A, would be a weapon for sure
......my 83.5 cents...
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Location:
wollongong
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October 2004
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Wed, 05 October 2005 12:43
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| mideon_696 wrote on Wed, 05 October 2005 22:42 |
dude, u on drugs? coz i want some... inline 6 cylinder into a tiny corolla, NUP, forget about it, V6 maybe, prolly still too little room, fills out a camry engine bay quite well, its HUGE compared to tha rolla!
"front wheel drive 6 spd skyline box"...um dont they use a RWD box with a forward 'transfer case'?
go the mighty 4age 20v, go nuts with it N/A, would be a weapon for sure
......my 83.5 cents...
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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September 2005
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Thu, 06 October 2005 09:29
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I want to have an individual car, with power, somethin that no-one else has got (that I have heard of) People reckon i could fit a 2JZ engine in it(with a bit of work), surely i could fit a 2.5L 1JZ in it, it's only an extra .9L. Does anyone know of a FWD gearbox that could handle it too, seen as the skyline one is a RWD gearbox with a transfer case?
PS. I've found a 1JZ engine for really cheap, so tell me it will work so I can buy it before it goes.
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Location:
wollongong
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October 2004
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Thu, 06 October 2005 10:06
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would be mad to see it done, hehe
wouldnt it be too heavy?
hey you prolly fit a holden V8 in ther you know, u could use a a strengthened rolla gearbox
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: AE101R to what...
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Thu, 06 October 2005 12:06
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People reckon i could fit a 2JZ engine in it(with a bit of work), surely i could fit a 2.5L 1JZ in it, it's only an extra .9L
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Huh?? The is no way a 'J' series as a FWD unless you have it hanging out Past your Drive side wheel, which by the way won't be there! unless you widen the whole front end ie cut the whole lot off and start again! It will fit if you had the time , money and brains to convert it into a RWD, which would mean cutting and fitting a Transmission Tunnel, cutting and modifying the firewall, Fitting a rear diff and modifying Suspension, supsension points, etc More to the "yeah, can be made to fit" is the 2VZ-FE which is a "V6" and is a 2.5L from a camry... People reckon, but not many have "done" or "have a Clue!" Get a tape out and Measure a 1JZ or 2JZ, and do the maths!
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