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ke70 gearbox question Fri, 07 October 2005 09:15 Go to next message
could i use my t18 tail shaft in a ke70 with a 3 speed manual

what is the gearbox code on these thing i cant look on the car coz the car was once an auto


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Re: ke70 gearbox question Fri, 07 October 2005 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T18 tailshaft will be a different length... And where the fook did you get a THREE speed manual gearbox from???!!111oneoneone

Usually there isnt a code on a gearbox, only way to find out what it is is to open it up. I'd say its either a K50 (5 speed), or in a very rare case, a K40 (4 Speed)... I don't think K30s even exist.. Sure you havent got a K50 with completely busted synchros on 4th and 5th? ahhaha.

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Fri, 07 October 2005 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phrostbyte wrote on Sat, 08 October 2005 00:30

T18 tailshaft will be a different length... And where the fook did you get a THREE speed manual gearbox from???!!111oneoneone

Usually there isnt a code on a gearbox, only way to find out what it is is to open it up. I'd say its either a K50 (5 speed), or in a very rare case, a K40 (4 Speed)... I don't think K30s even exist.. Sure you havent got a K50 with completely busted synchros on 4th and 5th? ahhaha.

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i'm guessing he meant the 3 speed auto traumatic...

afaik, the traumatics have a different output spline to both the K50 and also the T50, since it is basically a holden part.. (almost same as the 6cyl traumatics??)

so it is unlikely to be able to fit a T18 shaft into the trimatic box, if that is what you are trying to achieve?
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Re: ke70 gearbox question Fri, 07 October 2005 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, the output splines are not the same between the K40/K50 and the GMH auto.

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tin can wrote on Fri, 07 October 2005 19:15

ke70 with a 3 speed manual...



tin can wrote on Fri, 07 October 2005 19:15

car was once an auto


Confused

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry i stuffed up i mean the ke70 has a 4 speed (so a k40)
and that well not mate up to a t18 1981(20spline) tail shaft right?

one more qusetion
could i put the k bellhousing on the t50 from me t18


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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
K bellhousing doesnt come off, its a full cast unit, you would have to get a T-K series bellhousing, which i suspect would be hard to find.

Not sure if the T18 tailshaft will fit into your gearbox output, in theory it should, but it would make you wonder why people have to split the tailshaft and use only the rear half when they get a T18 diff... Probably a strange length...

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tin can wrote on Sat, 08 October 2005 12:04

sorry i stuffed up i mean the ke70 has a 4 speed (so a k40)
and that well not mate up to a t18 1981(20spline) tail shaft right?

one more qusetion
could i put the k bellhousing on the t50 from me t18


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i think the K series splines are actually the same as the celica splines!! i'm pretty sure i stuck a K series tailshaft into the celica (and maybe T18) box i have,,..

T series and K series boxes are same length

if you have a K to T bellhousing already, it should fit up to the T18 box easily.. it's the AE86 box that will leak some oil from the front unless you fix it...
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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok so it sounds like what i have to do is use the front have of the ke70 shaft and change the rear half with the t18 shaft
(can this be done)

this is only goingto be on the car for a few week coz putting a 3te(turbo)in to the car with a is200 6 speed and corona tail shaft with t18 diff modified to hold a bit more powerrr Laughing


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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
omfg! talk about power! Very Happy

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not big only 180kw on 20pound man
and one really really big camm


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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sat, 08 October 2005 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Concur; K40/K50 and T50 (20 spline) output shafts are the same. TE72 manual tailshaft will fit K40/K50 box, but not KE70 Borgwarner rear end. TE72 rear end will fit as bolt-in upgrade.

I actually still dunno WTF you are asking so I hope this random information helps.
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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sun, 09 October 2005 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
September_Squall:
what i am asking is
i have a 1982 ke70 sedan with a k40 in it (4peed manual)
im upgrading the diff with a te72(t18) diff
could i use a te72 (t18) tailshaft in the ke70 with the the k40 in the car or would i have to change the tailshaft
by using the exsting ke70 tailshaft and change the rear half of the tail shft with the te72
(t18)

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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sun, 09 October 2005 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
answer is maybe Wink

as long as the two halves bolt up in the middle.... and the centre bearing position is still the same... measure bolt spacing and see Very Happy.. it's gotta be close...

just a thought, you could also look at KE30 single piece shafts, as they are a little shorter (and KE20 and then KE10 shorter still), but you would have to match the bearing size with the T series flange at the diff.. but it gives you three more length options...
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Re: ke70 gearbox question Sun, 09 October 2005 03:59 Go to previous message
sweeet thanks old corollas
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