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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Sun, 09 October 2005 12:50
 
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Check the actual water temp. When I put the 5mge into the crown the gauge sat just below the red but was normal at the water. Top of red = hot. Have you used the original SA63 sender to compare instead of the ford POS? May have a different resistance property.
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Sun, 09 October 2005 13:10
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a ford temp sender is different to toyota
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Sun, 09 October 2005 22:41
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hahahaha is what i wrote invisible!no need for me to retype it,lmao its been repeated already  .
mick
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 06:19
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im using an ra65 sender. surely they would be the same.
but anyway, whether or not its conclusive or not, i drove it about 10km to get tuned this morning and it didnt even get to 1/2. it was only about 20 degrees but still. It needs a new carby unforuntately, the 750 vac sec is starving it.
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 06:24
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why didn't you go EFI???
carbies are.... well....
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 06:26
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one day...when i can afford to go efi i most definetly will 
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 06:28
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surely you could pick up a TPI manifold form the states cheap.. then get a holley HP pump, and a megasquirt... cheap as chups 
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 06:32
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Mon, 10 October 2005 14:19 |
It needs a new carby unforuntately, the 750 vac sec is starving it.
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Whats the theory behind this?
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 10:05
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i just put a double pumper 650 on it and it made a fuckload of difference. its now timed and running well. Goes like a shower of shit! i think i almost fucked my tyres actually.
im thinking i might need to make some bonnet vents, as the car was fine whilst driving around town tonite, but when i pulled up at the lights, it went to about 65% of the gauge. Me being a paranoid idiot pulled over and left it for an hour (it was 2km from home) came back after dinner an managed to get it home alright. i do think it would've got home ok, but i didnt really want to risk anything.
Im presuming it is going to be a problem with heat off my extractors? feeling the bonnet when the car pulls up is bloody hot.
any other suggestions?
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 10:11
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i also forgot to mention it turns out i was using the wrong spark plugs (i was given them from the extractor place)
but that shouldnt have anythign to do with heat?
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 11:24
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yes - plugs will affect tune and burn temps. Why did you let a zorst place choose plugs for you?
Suggest you take them out and compare them to the pictures you find in any Aus-printed car manual - they have pictures of plugs showing rich, lean, detonation etc...
The huge surface area of the uber-extractors will radiate heat - along with the massive radiator pumping lots of heat into the engine bay. all that air has to either go under the car or thru the bonnet.
i would suggest you re-install the plastic undertray so you get more airflow thru to under the car - bonnet vents will make driving unpleasant as you'll get the heat and fumes coming into the car.
My supra ran warming (e.g. above the midway mark on the digital dash) when understrain or air-con on and stuck in traffic. you should be concerned if it rises when you are travelling at speed - it's normal for the engine bay to get hotter when you stop at lights.
things to watch for is inability to hold temps down on the freeway (radiator blocked internally) or temps always rising when engine idling but falls back when engine revving (pump shagged).
dont forget that a normal toyota engine coolant temp is around the 80-85 degree mark - i suggest you find a ford manual (or the engine builder as you;re runnign higher compression) and see what coolant temps the engien normally run at.
also - you should be runing PULP (e.g. BP ultimate, etc) for the higher compression.
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 11:37
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the plugs were just given to me with the extractors to plug the holes in the head whilst they were being made. So i just used them. when i pulled them out the 1st time they werew just black. (normal) but i Will change em asap to the right ones.
I run the car on optimax also.
im thinking either some venting or some ducting is in order.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 11:53
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black is not normal.. black is too rich
what temp plugs are you using/planning to use? (ie NGK scale)
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Mon, 10 October 2005 22:43
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Man I feel like i'm reading the Q/A's of Hot4's or some such shit 
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Banned by his request
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 00:56
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Mon, 10 October 2005 16:19 |
im using an ra65 sender. surely they would be the same.
but anyway, whether or not its conclusive or not, i drove it about 10km to get tuned this morning and it didnt even get to 1/2. it was only about 20 degrees but still. It needs a new carby unforuntately, the 750 vac sec is starving it.
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unless its for straight drag racing a 650vac is all it will need.much better on the street.on a 600-620hp $60k race motor we use 850dp.for a reasonable streeter 650vac is better down low.
mick
p.s becarful going to big with carb as it will dissapoint and foul plugs.carby sizing is pretty easy now days.lol
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 01:10
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| Cool1 wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 08:43 |
Man I feel like i'm reading the Q/A's of Hot4's or some such shit
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couldnt have said it better...
keep up the top work blake!
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 06:09
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its going well and has loads of squirt. I think i am going to have to scrap the celica dash and make a custom one up of proper celcius temp gauges, tacho etc etc.
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 07:45
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How's the engineers going?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 12:11
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Don't mention the war!
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 12:41
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| Norbie wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 22:11 |
Don't mention the war!
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or the weather
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Tue, 11 October 2005 16:54
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My apologies, I'm genuinely interested. Is something the matter?
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Wed, 12 October 2005 05:55
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the engineering is going fine, i have someone in north brisbane who is doing it all for me.
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 00:43
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Really? That's great, how are you planning to register the previously fuel injected MA61 with a carburettor, and an engine which predates the chassis?
This is relevant to my next project. Would be interested to contact your engineer. PM me if you prefer.
Cheers,
Michael
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 02:51
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Keihin LPG injectors
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May 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 03:37
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| September_Squall wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 10:43 |
Really? That's great, how are you planning to register the previously fuel injected MA61 with a carburettor, and an engine which predates the chassis?
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***FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***
/sticks head in sand
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 05:55
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the engine is actually post chassis. the block is out of a 198* f150 truck.
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 05:56
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 13:37 |
| September_Squall wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 10:43 |
Really? That's great, how are you planning to register the previously fuel injected MA61 with a carburettor, and an engine which predates the chassis?
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***FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***
/sticks head in sand
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gee ed, i thought you would have had an intelligent answer by now to fix all my problems??
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 06:03
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WTFBBQ? *confused*
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 06:41
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the engine block is out of a 1980 something f100, 150, 0r 200 ford truck (i dont know exactly which one) these had 302 windsors. I just put a/m heads etc on it.
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 07:34
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 15:56 |
gee ed, i thought you would have had an intelligent answer by now to fix all my problems??
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nope, gave that up ages ago...
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Sydney
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April 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 08:38
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Hi everyone, I just bought a corona st141 radiator and mounted it into my ae86 but the radiator is so tall, I can't really close the bonnet properly, anyone know if they are made out of brass or what metal? and also my mate has got a small welder, you know the one just small like a school bag size? just the cheapest one you see on the market, am I able to use it to do welding on this radiator? as I'm thinking to chop the radiator cap bit and weld it on the side via a little piece if steel pipe in order to clear the bonnet.  hey don't laugh at me I know this is doggy but the radiator is so thick that I can't resist.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 09:05
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| Gwaijaitat wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 18:38 |
Hi everyone, I just bought a corona st141 radiator and mounted it into my ae86 but the radiator is so tall, I can't really close the bonnet properly, anyone know if they are made out of brass or what metal? and also my mate has got a small welder, you know the one just small like a school bag size? just the cheapest one you see on the market, am I able to use it to do welding on this radiator? as I'm thinking to chop the radiator cap bit and weld it on the side via a little piece if steel pipe in order to clear the bonnet. hey don't laugh at me I know this is doggy but the radiator is so thick that I can't resist.
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your local radiator place should do it for $20
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Sydney
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April 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 09:18
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you serious? that cheap? I'll give it a go tomorrow then 
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On Probation
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Newcastle
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December 2004
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Sydney
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April 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 13 October 2005 13:56
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zero at the moment.. haha
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Fri, 14 October 2005 07:07
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i think i fixed my problem! And worked out why my heater blew up...
there is two outlets on the water pump....i thought one was the feed and the other the return for the heater. WRONG!
so whilst i had these hooked up to my heater in/ out obviously my heater pressurized and shat itself.
So after that i proceeded to put a hose linking those two outlets together. happy days, no leaks. But running hot..because that was creating an air lock in the water pump causing it to run to about 50% of its potential!!
now there is a hose outlet in the thermostat housing, i had this blocked off from day one. Of course its for cooling the intake and heads! DOH!
So i this afternoon i blocked off the bottom outlet (useless now my heater is leaking) and hooked up the top outlet to the thermostat housing outlet.
started her up...let it go right up to where the fans come on at 85"c (bees dick over half) fans came on, stayed on for a minute or so...then turned off!  (they always just stayed on non-stop)so i let this happen 3 times, then turned it off. I left the accessories on, in case it got heat creap so the fans could come on. They didnt come on!
So i went and felt the radiator and hoses - fuckloads hotter than before! so obviously now the water pump is working properly and getting all of the heat out of the motor!
Happy days! (hopefully thats it solved)
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Fri, 14 October 2005 07:41
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so after all this... you just forgot to put it back together correctly?
do you have a manual for the engine??
oh, and sicne F150's are imports.. were they ever actually complied to australian smog standards?
in the US they are exempt to a large degree as an SUV, but in Aus, are the classed as a 4WD?
LOL, engineered and legal are two different things .. engineering doesn't stand up in court if it is illegal (just like any contract or certification  )
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Wed, 19 October 2005 00:00
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That was obviously the bypass hose you forgot. For getting hot water to your heater before the engine is at operating temperature
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Wed, 19 October 2005 09:29
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yeh it was meaning the water pump wasnt working well and the heads werent getting anywhere near the cooling they should've.
I gave it a caining around the streets yesterday and it seemed fine, and wasnt running hot at all either. touch wood it stays this way!
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Wed, 19 October 2005 09:47
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so does this mean youll put the thermostat back in?????????????
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Sydney
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April 2005
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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Wed, 26 October 2005 07:02
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 19:47 |
so does this mean youll put the thermostat back in?????????????
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when i get the time
The diff is causing me woes at the moment  I need a 3.4 ratio
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