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ra23celica
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ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 07:12 Go to next message
Hi all.
I've searched and read about brake up grades and conversions for the ST162 and ST165. What I would like to know if it is possible to fit the 185 size rotors (20mm bigger both front and rear) and still be able to squeeze the original rims over the top - the 14 x 6 jobbies?
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Mitch.
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
need 15inch wheels for st185 brakes
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
According to my documents, ST185 is 278mm and ST165 is 258mm.

In general, 260mm is the largest you'll get under 14" rims, and 280mm is the largest under 15" rims.

You may squeeze an extra 10mm in there with low profile calipers, but 20mm will be pushing it.
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ra23celica
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thank you for the comprehensive and well researched answer, much appreciated. You can have a boiled lolly and go to the top of the class. Laughing
Then, as an aside, do you know offhand of any 14 inch rims that might fit? Could a 3 piece Simmons be jigged up to get over it?
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you mean the 3piece simmons that have 14" centre and 15" outers then maybe...

But no.
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
14's fit.

I have st185 twinspot jdm calipers and rotors under my standard st162 (series 1)14" wheels. only JUST do they fit though! And no rubbing issues what so ever.
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what sort of difference have u noticed in the breaking?, i ask as 165 breaks are supposed to be horrible, but my mate with a late 320i beamer with abs and all (i think its a 320..whatever the 2L v6 they make is) is amazed by my 165s breaking, so im wondering if upgrading to 185 breaks would actually be worth it

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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aust162 wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 18:37

14's fit.

I have st185 twinspot jdm calipers and rotors under my standard st162 (series 1)14" wheels. only JUST do they fit though! And no rubbing issues what so ever.



the twin spot calipers on early st185's are the same as the st165 items. and yes they will happiley fit under 14" wheels... well just.


ont the other hand i also have a set of st185 278mm single piston items and i think you'd be about stuffed to fit them in 14" wheels.
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ra23celica
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Tue, 11 October 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks guys, I had half a vague idea that there was some caliper dependency involved in this somewhere, and you have cleared this up for me now.
Cheers,
Mitch.
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Sat, 22 October 2005 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What is kinda direct bolt in brakes would fit a ST162 with 17" rims?
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Sat, 22 October 2005 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
86Celica wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 18:27

What is kinda direct bolt in brakes would fit a ST162 with 17" rims?


what is speak english do?

you could fit just a whole lot more than you need for a 162/165 under 17s..
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Sun, 23 October 2005 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry I was in a hurry, I was wondering what brakes directly bolt on to the ST162, I was thinking of a late model Celica?
What other Celica brakes dircetly bolt in
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Re: ST162 / ST165 / ST185 Brake Upgrade v Wheel Size Sun, 23 October 2005 08:26 Go to previous message
Remember that the JDM (twin piston) and Aus spec (big single piston) are different diameters.
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